My Late Dad's regiment, the Royal Montréal, is celebrating their 100th Anniversary partly by publishing daily blogs of their actions/activities in and around WWI. The link attached will take you to one of the blogs that speaks to soldiers using aliases - something of which I was not aware. As the article states, in this one year, in one Battalion there were thirteen cases that are known of - one has to wonder how prevalent this was. I felt it might be of interest to those looking for relatives in Canada, if not simply of general interest genealogywise ???? Helen' http://www.royalmontrealregiment.com/use-of-aliases-in-the-rmr-in-1915/ "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus"

Hi List. Does anyone have access to the Pentyrch records if so can they please check the spouse of John she is listed has Jane on the Baptism records using FMP. Thank You Gerwyn LITTLE

Hi Gerwyn, Freereg2 has John marrying Mary Hopkin. Lynne.

Dear Listers, After a break of three months I've just added another subject to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection': Bethesda Baptist Chapel, Bethesda Street, Swansea, Glamorgan Photography by John Ball. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/swansea1.htm The 'Welsh Churches and Chapels Collection' now features 350 churches and chapels, with thirty-eight still in the pipeline, including some from earlier in the alphabet. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Personal Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Blog: http://johnofbrecon.com Webmaster, Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.co.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys RootsWeb mailing list

Jane Coed cae du farm still exists. It is the home of my Brother in Law. Allan ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 20:41:15 +0000 From: Jane Hope <janehope-2008@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: [GLA] Coedcaedu farm Aberdare To: "glamorgan@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB123-W5160D9AD36740F25BE71EEA7C80@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi I'm wondering if SKS could help with placing Coedcaedu Farm, Aberdare. It seems part of my family (2nd cousin twice removed) was farming there with some of his siblings in 1911. Could someone tell me if the farm is still there and, more importantly where it is/or would have been. I can't seem to trace it on any map. Many thanks. All the best Jane ------------------------------ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Thanks for the help! If you had family in Merthyr Tydfil you should defiantly spend some time on alangeorge.co.uk Old Merthyr Tydfil site had me pouring through tons of old photos! Very enjoyable. Regards Sarah > On May 30, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Mike Bale <mike.bale@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > Sarah > > Merthyr was large town [probably 80,000 or so] in 1911 so there would have been a number of elementary schools in the Borough. Three I know of were Caedraw Infants school, Twnyrodyn Infants school and Georgetown [Infants/Junior?] and there were probably others. All three would have been within easy walking distance of Upper Thomas Street. My older uncles started in Caedraw then transferred to Twynyrodyn when the family moved there. My father who was the youngest started school in 1909. > > Michael > > -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Crellin via > Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 12:09 AM > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLA] ancestry and my Rogers clan > > So this is a two part email, on one hand to offer some help and on the other to get some :-) > I have had a H€!! Of a time with my Rogers clan being badly transcribed in Ancestry, they have been spelt rogus, bogus, and boogers and most recently my Rogers have been included in a transcription error of my Bevan's... Misspelled as Revans but I persevered and searched the 1911 census by an address (which I should have known but didn't-brain fart). Anyway they came up living at that address and now I know that my William Rogers was an elementary school teacher living on upper Thomas street in lower Merthyr Tydfil > (I also didn't know there was a difference) so my advice is if you are having a hard time finding your lot TRY an address! > Now my question is. How FAR might my William have gone in 1911's transportation to get to his elementary school to teach? And what school would reasonably been within the possible area he would need to travel? I know he was there in 1917 as he is listed as next of kin for his brother who died of war wounds from Gallipoli while in Australia. The house was still in the family well into the late 40's as I found a probate will from the youngest Bevan boy who was thirteen in 1911. > > Cheers > Sarah > Gfhs 8400 > -- > >

Sarah Merthyr was large town [probably 80,000 or so] in 1911 so there would have been a number of elementary schools in the Borough. Three I know of were Caedraw Infants school, Twnyrodyn Infants school and Georgetown [Infants/Junior?] and there were probably others. All three would have been within easy walking distance of Upper Thomas Street. My older uncles started in Caedraw then transferred to Twynyrodyn when the family moved there. My father who was the youngest started school in 1909. Michael -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Crellin via Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2015 12:09 AM To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] ancestry and my Rogers clan So this is a two part email, on one hand to offer some help and on the other to get some :-) I have had a H€!! Of a time with my Rogers clan being badly transcribed in Ancestry, they have been spelt rogus, bogus, and boogers and most recently my Rogers have been included in a transcription error of my Bevan's... Misspelled as Revans but I persevered and searched the 1911 census by an address (which I should have known but didn't-brain fart). Anyway they came up living at that address and now I know that my William Rogers was an elementary school teacher living on upper Thomas street in lower Merthyr Tydfil (I also didn't know there was a difference) so my advice is if you are having a hard time finding your lot TRY an address! Now my question is. How FAR might my William have gone in 1911's transportation to get to his elementary school to teach? And what school would reasonably been within the possible area he would need to travel? I know he was there in 1917 as he is listed as next of kin for his brother who died of war wounds from Gallipoli while in Australia. The house was still in the family well into the late 40's as I found a probate will from the youngest Bevan boy who was thirteen in 1911. Cheers Sarah Gfhs 8400 --

Hi Jane, Coedcaedu farm is in the parish of Penderyn. Here are my notes on it: *COEDCAEDU* Coedcae-du 1974 OS First Series Coedcaedu 1911 Census (Daniel Jones); 1901 Census (Gwilym Evans, Farmer, Hirwain, Both); 1891 Census (Morgan Davies, Farmer, Cantref, Welsh); Coedcadu 1841 Census UP Best wishes, Deric John. On 30 May 2015 at 21:53, Eliz Hanebury via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > maps.google has a suggestion > > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Coedcae+Farm/@51.726143,-3.431303,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x486e3950d168227d:0x906971472fd7c9f6 > I have no idea how good it is <G> but they have a fair amount of good > results <G> > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jane Hope via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > Hi > > > > I'm wondering if SKS could help with placing Coedcaedu Farm, Aberdare. > It seems part of my family (2nd cousin twice removed) was farming there > with some of his siblings in 1911. Could someone tell me if the farm is > still there and, more importantly where it is/or would have been. I can't > seem to trace it on any map. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > All the best > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > > - > > > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > > > - > > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may > be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > > > - > > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- websites: Place-names in south Wales - http://someplacenamesinsouthwales.4t.com Enwau Lleoedd - https://sites.google.com/site/enwaulleoedddecymru/home *Penderyn* *https://sites.google.com/site/penderynplacenames/ <https://sites.google.com/site/penderynplacenames/>* *Pontardulais:* https://sites.google.com/site/pontardardulaischurcheschapels/ https://sites.google.com/site/pontardulaisfarms/ https://sites.google.com/site/pontardulaispublichouses/ https://sites.google.com/site/pontardulaisplacenames/ Dylan and the Bont - https://sites.google.com/site/dylanthomaspontardulais/home/dylan-and-the-bont

Hi I'm wondering if SKS could help with placing Coedcaedu Farm, Aberdare. It seems part of my family (2nd cousin twice removed) was farming there with some of his siblings in 1911. Could someone tell me if the farm is still there and, more importantly where it is/or would have been. I can't seem to trace it on any map. Many thanks. All the best Jane

maps.google has a suggestion https://www.google.com/maps/place/Coedcae+Farm/@51.726143,-3.431303,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x486e3950d168227d:0x906971472fd7c9f6 I have no idea how good it is <G> but they have a fair amount of good results <G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jane Hope via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi > > I'm wondering if SKS could help with placing Coedcaedu Farm, Aberdare. It seems part of my family (2nd cousin twice removed) was farming there with some of his siblings in 1911. Could someone tell me if the farm is still there and, more importantly where it is/or would have been. I can't seem to trace it on any map. > > Many thanks. > > All the best > > Jane > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Sarah Your best bet is to search the electoral rolls if your searching for someone by an address. As for the question about how far William might travel, it would depend on how good the transport links of the day were. The transport of the day would have been by rail, therefore I would guess the distance would be on average about 10 miles to commute to and from work. By foot he could well walk over a mountain and back to work, with the mountain tracks being safer than the valley bottoms. Regards Gareth

So this is a two part email, on one hand to offer some help and on the other to get some :-) I have had a H€!! Of a time with my Rogers clan being badly transcribed in Ancestry, they have been spelt rogus, bogus, and boogers and most recently my Rogers have been included in a transcription error of my Bevan's... Misspelled as Revans but I persevered and searched the 1911 census by an address (which I should have known but didn't-brain fart). Anyway they came up living at that address and now I know that my William Rogers was an elementary school teacher living on upper Thomas street in lower Merthyr Tydfil (I also didn't know there was a difference) so my advice is if you are having a hard time finding your lot TRY an address! Now my question is. How FAR might my William have gone in 1911's transportation to get to his elementary school to teach? And what school would reasonably been within the possible area he would need to travel? I know he was there in 1917 as he is listed as next of kin for his brother who died of war wounds from Gallipoli while in Australia. The house was still in the family well into the late 40's as I found a probate will from the youngest Bevan boy who was thirteen in 1911. Cheers Sarah Gfhs 8400

I am having a bit of trouble finding the family outside of the 1911, I had to search high and low but I beat Ancestry in one (I searched for Frank Wheeler and found him only after I didn't put in a first name -Ancestry hates me now) Hilda Rose Mond Wheeler Age in 1911:18 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1893 Relation to Head:Daughter (Child) Gender:Female Birth Place:Ventnor, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom Civil Parish:Ventnor County/Island:Hampshire Country:England Street address:Surrey Villa, Newport Road, Ventnor Marital Status:Single Occupation:Book Keeper Drapers Registration district:Isle of Wight Registration District Number:93 Sub-registration district:Godshill ED, institution, or vessel:4 Household schedule number:83 Piece:5753 Household Members: NameAge Frank Edward Wheeler51 Mildred Wheeler41 Hilda Rose Mond Wheeler18 Edward Frank Wheeler14 Glady Longton Wheeler10 Reginal Knigtt Wheeler8 Bertham Stanley Wheeler6 Syny Rowland Wheeler4 Save Cancel Source Citation Class: RG14; Piece: 5753; Schedule Number: 83 Source Information Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011 Frank Wheeler Age:41 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1860 Relation to Head:Head Gender:Male Spouse:Mildred Wheeler Birth Place:Isle of Wight, Ventnor Civil Parish:Ventnor Ecclesiastical parish:St Catherine Town:Ventnor County/Island:Hampshire Country:England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Education: Employment status: View image Registration district:Isle of Wight Sub-registration district:Godshill ED, institution, or vessel:4 Neighbors:View others on page Piece:1031 Folio:51 Page Number:9 Household schedule number:60 Household Members: NameAge Frank Wheeler41 Mildred Wheeler31 Hilda B Wheeler9 Edward F Wheeler4 Gladys E Wheeler4/12 Save Cancel Source Citation Class: RG13; Piece: 1031; Folio: 51; Page: 9 Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Robert Williams via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Greetings all. > Can some kind soul please lookup these for me.......... > George Edward MABEY born march quarter of 1886 at Isle of Wight. > He is aged 5 at Bouchurch,Isle of wight in the 1891 census index. > Census details please. > His future wife was Hilda Rosamund WHEELER,born 1892 I.O.W;whom he married dec quarter 1912 atI.O.W; a lookup in 1901 for her too please. > A sighting of both of them in the 1911 census would be nice. > Cheers,Graham. > Graham Williams, > Glam;FHS# 551. > of Canton,Cardiff. > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is the only George who is coming up. Do you have his probate report? George Mabey. Age in 1911:25 Estimated Birth Year:abt 1886 Relation to Head:Brother-in-law (Brother) Gender:Male Birth Place:Bonchurch, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom Civil Parish:Bonchurch County/Island:Hampshire Country:England Street address:2 Whiteshute Cottages, Bonchurch, I Of Wight Marital Status:Single Occupation:Grocers Assistant Registration district:Isle of Wight Registration District Number:93 Sub-registration district:Godshill ED, institution, or vessel:6 Household schedule number:54 Piece:5755 Household Members: NameAge Thomas Foxworthy28 Lucy Foxworthy29 Richard Foxworthy3 Doris Foxworthy5/12 George Mabey25 Save Cancel Source Citation Class: RG14; Piece: 5755; Schedule Number: 54 Source Information Ancestry.com. 1911 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 4:49 AM, Robert Williams via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Greetings all. > Can some kind soul please lookup these for me.......... > George Edward MABEY born march quarter of 1886 at Isle of Wight. > He is aged 5 at Bouchurch,Isle of wight in the 1891 census index. > Census details please. > His future wife was Hilda Rosamund WHEELER,born 1892 I.O.W;whom he married dec quarter 1912 atI.O.W; a lookup in 1901 for her too please. > A sighting of both of them in the 1911 census would be nice. > Cheers,Graham. > Graham Williams, > Glam;FHS# 551. > of Canton,Cardiff. > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Greetings all. Can some kind soul please lookup these for me.......... George Edward MABEY born march quarter of 1886 at Isle of Wight. He is aged 5 at Bouchurch,Isle of wight in the 1891 census index. Census details please. His future wife was Hilda Rosamund WHEELER,born 1892 I.O.W;whom he married dec quarter 1912 atI.O.W; a lookup in 1901 for her too please. A sighting of both of them in the 1911 census would be nice.  Cheers,Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Are there any burial records for this cemetery which is in the church grounds, burial ground at Salem, Llangyfelach, a little to the north, on the way to Velindre. I am looking for a Jane davies know she was on the 191 census as a widow and my great grandfather always called her Jinny Salem as she lived in a cottage close to it Or if there are any family members who could put me on the right track Thanks

Glamorgan FHS Swansea Branch have been working on them but they are not yet published. Early records pre-1897 seem to be missing. Contact me off-list. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Pritchard via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: "Glamorgan List" <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com>; "Swansea List" <WLS-SWANSEA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 11:49 AM Subject: [GLA] Bethel Chapel, Carnglas Road, Sketty, Swansea > Hi > > Does anybody know if burial records are available for Bethel Chapel on > Carnglas Road in Sketty, Swansea? > > I'm trying to find out if they're easily accessible or it's time for > another County Hall Archive Service search for me again. > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Does anybody know if burial records are available for Bethel Chapel on Carnglas Road in Sketty, Swansea? I'm trying to find out if they're easily accessible or it's time for another County Hall Archive Service search for me again. Thanks Andrew

Hi Maureen John Driver and Mary Roberts married December quarter 1855 in Merthyr Tydfil registration district which included Aberdare. The marriage certificate should give Mary's father's name. In 1861 census they were in Aberavon at the 'Glanywern Public' in Duck Street. John was 32 b Llanelly,Carmarthenshire Coal Miner, Mary 24 born Glamorgan. For some reason they then listed their servant Catherine Hughes, 21, from Neath before their children James 3 b Glamorgan Tythegston ( which could have included Cefn Cribbwr), Thomas 2 and Gwen 5, both born Aberavon. There was also a boarder, Thomas Williams, widower, 35, b Margam, with them. Gwenllian Driver born Dec Qr 1856 Merthyr Tydfil district (not Aberavon) James Driver born Mar qr 1858 Bridgend district (could be Tythegston/Cefn Cribbwr) - possibly named after a brother of John's who married in Llanelly in 1851 Thomas Driver born Dec qr 1859 Neath district ( which included Aberavon) possibly also births Margaret Driver Mar qr 1863 Merthyr district, death Thomas driver Mar qr 1863 Merthyr district, Birth William B Driver Sep qr 1866 Deaths of John Driver 37 and James Driver March qr 1868 Pontypridd district The Ferndale colliery explosion took place on 8th November 1867 http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3403097/ART18 is one contemporary account. It mentions father and son laid out alongside each other in one house in Ferndale after the first few bodies had been recovered. Presumably the death certificates were only issued later. possible posthumous birth Mary Jane Driver Mar qr 1869 Pontypridd district Marriage Mary Driver Jun qr 1870 Merthyr district to John Davies or Thomas Edwards As in 1891 William Basset Driver, 24, b Llanwonno ,collier had Sarah Ann Edwards, 19, stepsister, living with him, I assume that Mary Driver married Thomas Edwards. In 1881 Thomas Edwards, widower, 34, b Bedwellty, Mon, was at Ferndale with daughter Gwen Driver 16 b Aberdare, Mary J Edwards, 12, daughter, b Llanwonno and Sarah A Edwards, 9, daughter, b Llanwonno, as well as a boarder, David Thomas, 26, from Llangadog, Carmarthenshire. The address seems to be 3 Lake Street, and this part of Ferndale was in Ystradyfodwg parish. In 1871 William Carp b Mountain Ash was with parents William 32 born Bridgewater Somerset and Margaret 30 b Pyle and a younger sister Elizabeth, 2, born Treherbert, which may have been where they were living in 'Bute huts'. In 1891 William Carp was still with his parents, but now in Ogmore Vale, in the part of that town in Llangeinor parish His mother was now said to be age 49 b Cefn Cribbwr. William Carp senior seems to have married in 1859 in Merthyr district, probably to Jane Davies. In 1861 he was a widower living in Aberdare, and Jane Carp had died in March quarter 1861. He seems to have remarried in December qr 1874 in Bridgend district to Margaret Davies, who presumably was the mother of young William and his sister. Presumably if she was originally Margaret Roberts she had previously married a Davies who had died. In fact there was a marriage of Margaret Roberts quite likely to David Bassett in Sep Qr 1856 in Bridgend All a bit mysterious. However, in 1871 census at Cefn Cribbwr there was a Thomas Roberts, 57, Collier, b Laleston, with wife Gwenllian 56 b Llangynwyd and children John 24 b Llangynwyd, David, 19 b Llangynwyd and Gwen 15 b Mountain Ash. If this is the chap, Gwenllian Driver would have been named after her grandmother. In 1891 this same Thomas Roberts, now 76 and a widower, was living at Fronwen Row, Ogmore Vale with his son David, 39, colliery overman , b Llangynwyd, and his wife Jane and family. They were living at Number 1 and William Corp and family were living at number 8. So you may well be looking for Thomas Roberts b about 1814/1815 in Laleston parish, which lies west of Bridgend. Like Tythegston parish next door, Laleston is quite long North-South and stretches up from Laleston village to Llangewydd and part of Cefn Cribbwr. The oldest collieries in these two parishes tended to lie north of the Cefn Cribbwr ridge, stretching west towards Pyle and east towards Park Slip and Aberkenfig. Llangynwyd parish adjoined the northern edge of Pyle and Tythegston parishes, including places like Aberbaiden, Tondu and Coytrahen in that part of the coalfield. It is in 'Langonoyd Lower' that I have eventually found Thomas ROBERT 25, Collier, Gwenllian 25, Mary 4 , William 2 and Margaret 10 months. The address seems to be something like Darangadarn and in the hamlet of 'Langonoyd Lower or Bayden' so somewhere near Aberbaiden. In 1851 they are at 'Rheedygroes' in the same hamlet, Thomas age 37 b Laleston, Gwenllian 35 b Llangynwyd, Mary 14, William 12, Howell 9 and John 4, all born Llangynwyd. Where was Margaret? I wonder whether she could be next door, enumerated as Margaret Davies aged 12, granddaughter of Thomas Davies, 65, Farm labourer b Llangynwyd and his wife Ann 64 b Tythegston. Their address was Forddygyfraith. Fforddygyfraith is still located north of Cefn Cross, Cefn Cribbwr, not far from that huge opencast mine that was in the news recently that has not been landscaped because the ownership has been transferred to the Cayman Islands (or something similar - I may have got the details wrong). I hope that all this wandering through censuses and BMDs will have found your family. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "MJen512444 via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: <Glamorgan-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2015 8:48 PM Subject: [GLA] thomas Roberts > Hi listers, > > I had a great great grandfather from Ogmore Vale. Name of Thomas Roberts. > No dates at present, but was told some years ago that two of his grand > daughters. Both unmarried and surnamed Lloyd, living in tonypandy, told me > that their mother and maybe them in their young days would travel over two > mountains from Ferndale in the Rhondda Fach to visit Thomas Roberts. > > His daughter was Mary Roberts and possibly had a son called David > Roberts. > David Roberts supposedly kept a pub in Cefn Cribbwr. I tried, but could > find no such pub. Mary Roberts married John Driver in Aberdare . They > kept the Bush Inn Mountain Ash where their youngest son, William Basett > Driver > was born 1866. There was also a cousin called William Carp born at the > pub around the same time. Margaret Roberts was this boy's mother. > Sisters? > A huge explosion took place a year later, and John Driver and his eldest > son were amongst 178 men and boys killed on the 8th November. I just > hope > my memory for dates is still working. > > Anyone with any information I would be glad to read them. > > All the best everyone, > Maureen > Rhondda Fawr. > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi listers, I had a great great grandfather from Ogmore Vale. Name of Thomas Roberts. No dates at present, but was told some years ago that two of his grand daughters. Both unmarried and surnamed Lloyd, living in tonypandy, told me that their mother and maybe them in their young days would travel over two mountains from Ferndale in the Rhondda Fach to visit Thomas Roberts. His daughter was Mary Roberts and possibly had a son called David Roberts. David Roberts supposedly kept a pub in Cefn Cribbwr. I tried, but could find no such pub. Mary Roberts married John Driver in Aberdare . They kept the Bush Inn Mountain Ash where their youngest son, William Basett Driver was born 1866. There was also a cousin called William Carp born at the pub around the same time. Margaret Roberts was this boy's mother. Sisters? A huge explosion took place a year later, and John Driver and his eldest son were amongst 178 men and boys killed on the 8th November. I just hope my memory for dates is still working. Anyone with any information I would be glad to read them. All the best everyone, Maureen Rhondda Fawr.