Dear listers The address given on a 1911 census is: Bryn Haf Villas, Llan Road, Mountain Ash, Glamorganshire I can't seem to find a Llan Road on Google maps and was wondering if anyone knows whether the road was renamed Cardiff Road, Mountain Ash? Thanks Jo -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint

All yea of course, how silly. It is aberbargoed indeed! Sarah > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 AM, glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > . > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Abergoed (Robert Treharne Jones) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2015 08:46:40 +0100 > From: "Robert Treharne Jones" <tjwizard@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Abergoed > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <016801d0d7f7$b0f514d0$12df3e70$@tiscali.co.uk> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Sarah > > A little more clarity in the spelling would be helpful - did the article > really spell the place name 'arbargoed'? > As far as I know neither this nor 'Abergoed', as in your subject header, are > place names in Wales. > On the other hand 'Aberbargoed' is just across the Rhymney valley from > Bargoed, and some nine miles north of Caerphilly. > I suspect the reason it comes up as 'Caerphilly' is because it lies within > that (relatively new) county boundary. > Don't forget that Glamorgan, as a single entity, ceased to exist in 1974 > > Robert > > > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Sarah via > > I ave found my William "Willie" Rogers in a news article 1917 where he is > listed as in Active Service in France, as a Corporal. But I can find no > record of him in service. He is listed as a teacher at arbargoed council > schools. When I google arbargoed council school Caerphilly comes up. > Advise is appreciated! > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to > GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an email to GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 145 > ******************************************

Hi Sarah A little more clarity in the spelling would be helpful - did the article really spell the place name 'arbargoed'? As far as I know neither this nor 'Abergoed', as in your subject header, are place names in Wales. On the other hand 'Aberbargoed' is just across the Rhymney valley from Bargoed, and some nine miles north of Caerphilly. I suspect the reason it comes up as 'Caerphilly' is because it lies within that (relatively new) county boundary. Don't forget that Glamorgan, as a single entity, ceased to exist in 1974 Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sarah via I ave found my William "Willie" Rogers in a news article 1917 where he is listed as in Active Service in France, as a Corporal. But I can find no record of him in service. He is listed as a teacher at arbargoed council schools. When I google arbargoed council school Caerphilly comes up. Advise is appreciated!

I ave found my William "Willie" Rogers in a news article 1917 where he is listed as in Active Service in France, as a Corporal. But I can find no record of him in service. He is listed as a teacher at arbargoed council schools. When I google arbargoed council school Caerphilly comes up. Advise is appreciated! ~Sarah

Many thanks to Wendy and Marcelle for their replies! Colete On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 3:00 AM, <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com > and be patient. Jeff. List Admin > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > . > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > Today's Topics: > > 1. CARMEL CHAPEL BONVILSTON (WLawday@aol.com) > 2. Marriage Record (Colete Morlock) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 04:02:48 -0400 > From: WLawday@aol.com > Subject: [GLA] CARMEL CHAPEL BONVILSTON > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <27351.4eef1e45.42fda928@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Many thanks to Ray and Maureen for their most helpful replies. > > Wendy > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 16:27:39 -0400 > From: Colete Morlock <coletem@gmail.com> > Subject: [GLA] Marriage Record > To: "glamorgan@rootsweb.com" <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > < > CAFn3pn36h8Fzn580rrLqT1uWCvtzn2BnJGqCGPNJ231Uj2jrrg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I'm looking for confirmation on a marriage record for a BARBARA ARNOLD, b. > 15 Apr 1820, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales. We think she married a > BENJAMIN EVANS, b. 1818 and the marriage took place in 1843 at Clydey. Her > parents, David and Jennet Jenkins Arnold would have been living but I have > no confirmation that they attended. Any suggestions on how to get > additional information? > > Colete Morlock > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to > GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an email to > GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 10, Issue 142 > ****************************************** >

I'm looking for confirmation on a marriage record for a BARBARA ARNOLD, b. 15 Apr 1820, Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales. We think she married a BENJAMIN EVANS, b. 1818 and the marriage took place in 1843 at Clydey. Her parents, David and Jennet Jenkins Arnold would have been living but I have no confirmation that they attended. Any suggestions on how to get additional information? Colete Morlock

Many thanks to Ray and Maureen for their most helpful replies. Wendy

Thanks for all your help Jill. Now I'll order the Death Cert for Ell and the Marriage for Thomas in 1860. That'll be the only way to have a definitive answer. Cheers & thanks again Marcelle Western Australia

Sent from my iPad Hi Wendy, I am told locally that the graveyard at Carmel can be visited. I know that headstones are still there and flowers and Christmas wreaths sometimes left. Entrance is from the adjacent lane. Regards, Maureen

Hi Wendy, Thanks for all this further info...good work. The children, Benjamin & Elizabeth Bosley as nephew and niece of Eliz. Bosley (my grt. Grt. Grandmother) on the 1871 Census, should have been listed as grandson & granddaughter as they are the children of Thomas Bosley, son of my my grt. Grt. Grandmother, Eliz. Bosley. I'll have a rummage now and purchase certificates to see who's who and hopefully sort this out. Thanks again for all your help, it's wonderful! Cheers for now Marcelle -----Original Message----- From: Wendy [mailto:wenjo41@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 10 August 2015 11:17 PM To: Marcelle Subject: Re: [GLA] BOSLEY Thomas & EVANS Ellen Further to my note that Thomas may have married Ann Harris -- and they then could still be the ones on the 1861 as per the Trees on Ancestry. Did Thomas then die in 1861 and Ann marry again?There is a marriage of Ann Boseley 1864 to Osker Launden Walker and here they are in 1871 attached with a Mary Boseley Walker as daughter. I think 2 of the children of the 1861Benjamin and Elizabeth are down as nephew and niece of an Elizabeth Boseley in the 1871.And in 1881 Osker and Ann have moved to Gloucestershire attached. They are back in Glamorgan by 1891 and by 1901 he is a widower.He is also on the 1911 attached and he died 1915. There is a tree on ancestry for him. Wendy I have a marriage for Thomas Bosley b 1831 in Hirwaun Glamorgan, a Draper of High Street, Son of James Bosley, a Carrier & Elizabeth Jenkins (my maternal grt grandparents) He married Ellen Evans of Hirwaun on 20 January 1853 in Merthyr Tydfil (I have Marriage Certificate) - her father Benjamin Evans, Inn Keeper. They had a son, Benjamin Evans Bosley in Oct 1853 and he is written in our family bible pages from that time as the son of Thomas Bosley. I cannot find them as a couple in the 1861 Census There are several trees on ancestry who have him as being married to Ann Lewis and in the 1861 Census there is a Thomas Boseley, wife Ann, living in Williams Row, he is a Railway Porter. I've also found an Ellen Evans death in 1859 - BOSLEY Ellen Merthyr T 11a 245 I thought perhaps Ellen had died and Thomas had remarried but I can't find a Thomas Bosley marrying an Ann Lewis between 1854 and 1861. Is there someone out there who can look in the parish records or is related to Ellen Evans. Or perhaps someone clever can find them on the 1861 Census. I've tried Ancestry and FamilySearch.org to no avail. Any help or advice welcome. Thanks, Marcelle Western Australia -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so much Jill for going to so much trouble. There's certainly lots to go on from this info and having these clues and your insight will help me 'get there' in the end. Cheers from Western Australia Marcelle -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir [mailto:jill@shottle.plus.com] Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 4:19 PM To: 'Jill Muir'; 'Marcelle'; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GLA] BOSLEY Thomas & EVANS Ellen Importance: High

Hi Wendy, A quick search on Google produced this link to the recent sale of the Chapel as a home. The first picture shows the graves and headstones still in place. Unfortunately I don't have a date for the photograph, but it looks fairly recent. http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-25274619.html Regards, Ray

Hi List. Does anybody have access to the CD produced by GFHS of the burials in Maesteg Town cemetery if so can they check if the above is buried there she does not appear to have been buried with her husband in Llangynwyd parish church. The entry in 1898 on the GRO index looks a good bet? Thanks Gerwyn

Hi Jill No, the marriage isn't anywhere that I can see. I'm just presuming that the marriage certificate I do have, in which he marries Ellen Evans, results in the child, Benjamin E Bosley as written in family bible. The actual marriage is not written in the bible only the birth of the child. As Ellen disappears after that, I'm assuming she has died and Thomas has remarried by the time of the 1861 Census but I cannot find a marriage for Thomas and Ann Lewis which is the name on several Trees online. Mind you those same trees have my grt grt grandfather as marrying & having several children in America, all the while appearing in every Census in Merthyr from 1841 to 1861!!! I'd appreciate any further help re a second marriage for Thomas although it may be a case of just co-habiting. Cheers & & thanks Marcelle -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir [mailto:jill@shottle.plus.com] Sent: Tuesday, 11 August 2015 1:55 AM To: 'Marcelle'; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GLA] BOSLEY Thomas & EVANS Ellen

I know the chapel has been converted to residential, but can anyone tell me what has happened to the graves and headstones? I am currently helping someone who has quite a few relatives and ancestors buried there, so I'm hoping there is still something for her to see. I no longer drive so am unable to visit and check. Many thanks, Wendy

James Bosley Wales Births and Baptisms, 1541-1907 christening: 9 August 1829 MERTHYR TYDFIL, GLAMORGAN, WALES father: James Bosley -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir [mailto:jill@shottle.plus.com] Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 6:55 PM To: 'Marcelle' <mvs5@westnet.com.au>; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [GLA] BOSLEY Thomas & EVANS Ellen

Hi Marcelle, Thomas is shown aged 9 years with his parents, James and Elizabeth and siblings on 1841 census. Remember that in 1841 census, correctly all people over the age of 15 are shown with ages rounded down. ie a 36 year old is aged between 36 and 40 years. As I said, that was the correct way to do this, but many enumerators ignored this rule and gave the age that they were told. Name Thomas Bosley, Event Type Census Event Date 1841 Male Age 9 Birthplace Glamorgan Registration District Merthyr Tydfil Sub-District Merthyr Tydfil, Lower Parish Merthyr Tydfil County Glamorganshire HO107/1415/5 page 21 =================================== He married Ellen Evans of Hirwaun on 20 January 1853 in Merthyr Tydfil THOMAS BOSLEY born ca 1831 married 20 Jan 1853 at Merthyr Tydfil, 25 year old Ellen Evans THOMAS BOSLEY was aged 22 he was the son of James BOSLEY Ellen was the daughter of Benjamin Evans ELLEN BOSLEY No Age given, died between April, to June, 1859 MERTHYR TYDFIL Volume 11A Page 245 Country Wales THOMAS BOSLEY Marriage quarter 4 1860 Marriage FinderT THOMAS BOSLEY married one of these people MARGARET THOMAS, JESSE VATER, ANN HARRIS District MERTHYR TYDFIL Country Wales Volume 11A Page 500 HTH, Jill

Hi List I have a marriage for Thomas Bosley b 1831 in Hirwaun Glamorgan, a Draper of High Street, Son of James Bosley, a Carrier & Elizabeth Jenkins (my maternal grt grandparents) He married Ellen Evans of Hirwaun on 20 January 1853 in Merthyr Tydfil (I have Marriage Certificate) - her father Benjamin Evans, Inn Keeper. They had a son, Benjamin Evans Bosley in Oct 1853 and he is written in our family bible pages from that time as the son of Thomas Bosley. I cannot find them as a couple in the 1861 Census There are several trees on ancestry who have him as being married to Ann Lewis and in the 1861 Census there is a Thomas Boseley, wife Ann, living in Williams Row, he is a Railway Porter. I've also found an Ellen Evans death in 1859 - BOSLEY Ellen Merthyr T 11a 245 I thought perhaps Ellen had died and Thomas had remarried but I can't find a Thomas Bosley marrying an Ann Lewis between 1854 and 1861. Is there someone out there who can look in the parish records or is related to Ellen Evans. Or perhaps someone clever can find them on the 1861 Census. I've tried Ancestry and FamilySearch.org to no avail. Any help or advice welcome. Thanks, Marcelle Western Australia

Hi Marcelle, As you say the: 1861 Wales Census Name: Benjamin E Boseley [Benjamin E Bosley] Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son (Child) Father's name: Thomas Boseley Mother's name: Ann Boseley Where born: Hirwain, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Penderyn Town: Hirwain County/Island: Breconshire Country: Wales RG9; Piece: 4063; Folio: 10; Page: 16; Shows the father and son. Will have to work on the marriage. Presumably this marriage is not in your Family Bible? He married Ellen Evans of Hirwaun on 20 January 1853 in Merthyr Tydfil. Did you get the certificate of marriage from the Local registrar or not? Jill