Nancy Hy=Henry in most cases. Regards Doug -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Rogers <rogers1n@comcast.net> To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, Mar 24, 2011 6:47 pm Subject: [GLA] Question about names on ship sailing lists?? I have found a Clifford family who arrived in Boston in June 1865 on the ship, Bosphorous which left from Liverpool. The names listed on the ship's list are Mary Clifford, who is the Mother, and children Mary, Hy, Bird, and James. Could the name Hy, be a nickname for Margaret, and could Bird be a nickname for Bridget? The dates of birth/ages are the same for Hy as for Margaret Clifford and bird, for Bridget Clifford and I suspect it is the same family, although the names are a bit different. My family members are in the 1861 census living at Heolwemod District. I am assuming that the father, James Clifford, my great grandfather, left for Boston at an earlier date, although I haven't found him on any ship lists yet. Nancy Clifford Rogers -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

I have found a Clifford family who arrived in Boston in June 1865 on the ship, Bosphorous which left from Liverpool. The names listed on the ship's list are Mary Clifford, who is the Mother, and children Mary, Hy, Bird, and James. Could the name Hy, be a nickname for Margaret, and could Bird be a nickname for Bridget? The dates of birth/ages are the same for Hy as for Margaret Clifford and bird, for Bridget Clifford and I suspect it is the same family, although the names are a bit different. My family members are in the 1861 census living at Heolwemod District. I am assuming that the father, James Clifford, my great grandfather, left for Boston at an earlier date, although I haven't found him on any ship lists yet. Nancy Clifford Rogers

Hi Ken The only Durham I know of is in north-east England! Presumably you are talking about the Taliesin Bevan who was born in about 1846 in Dowlais, Glamorgan, and in 1871 was living in St James, Durham? I don't have a link, just trying to help pinpoint the individual Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ken Dess Does anyone have a Taliesen Bevan in their family tree from Durham, Wales?

Hi Nancy, I checked this families arrival on Ancestry and the names of Bridget and Margaret have been mistranscribed which is very common on this site. I also found them on the 1861 Census and the names are as you say there. On the Ships Passenger List, Bridget has been abbreviated to Brid, not Bird. Margaret has been abbreviated to Mg. not Hy. Always try to look at the original image if possible and hopefully you can figure it out from there. I have sent corrections into Ancestry so hopefully that will help if others are looking. Cheers, Bridget in Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Rogers" <rogers1n@comcast.net> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 04:47 PM Subject: [GLA] Question about names on ship sailing lists?? >I have found a Clifford family who arrived in Boston in June 1865 on the > ship, Bosphorous which left from Liverpool. The names listed on the > ship's > list are Mary Clifford, who is the Mother, and children Mary, Hy, Bird, > and > James. > > Could the name Hy, be a nickname for Margaret, and could Bird be a > nickname > for Bridget? > > The dates of birth/ages are the same for Hy as for Margaret Clifford and > bird, for Bridget Clifford and I suspect it is the same family, although > the names are a bit different. > > My family members are in the 1861 census living at Heolwemod District. > > > > I am assuming that the father, James Clifford, my great grandfather, left > for Boston at an earlier date, although I haven't found him on any ship > lists yet. > > Nancy Clifford Rogers > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5983 (20110324) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Hi Larry, I am in the same boat...I sent the details and they sent me the cetificate but it is a 6 weeks baby not a 50+ person I was looking for. My g/g/grandfathers name was Martin Hooley, and I know he died sometime between 1851 and 1857. I found 2 names Howley and Houly in this time so sent for the Howley name which is the above. Now I will try the Houly name instead. Do I have to send back the first certificate or will they forward another free of charge instead or do I have to order another and pay for it? Any idea? Never received a certificate before from Gro. Thanking you for any help, Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Thompson" <lt0168@epix.net> To: "glamorgan mailing list" <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 8:50 AM Subject: [GLA] Birth Cert. William Jones, b. 29 Dec. 1850 > Hi group: > I recently ordered a birth Cert. for William Jones., b. 7 Jun 1851 and > they sent me the subject, so I decided to publish the information in > case anybody else can use it. > District Merthyr Tydfil, sub-district Merthyr Tydfil Upper. > B. 29 Dec 1850 @Forge Row Dowlais, William, > Father William Jones > Mother Esther Jones formerly Williams > Fathers occupation unclear, but could be grocer. > Registered 4th Feb 1851. > > I contacted the GRO and they stated they would air mail the correct > document. > > Larry > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have a Taliesen Bevan in their family tree from Durham, Wales?

Transcripts and images of the graves at Soar Capel Yr Annibynwyr, Seven Sisters, are now online at the OGRE website: http://www.cefnpennar.com/ssisters/ <http://www.cefnpennar.com/ssisters/> Regards The OGRE >^..^<

Hi I've come across 2 birth entries for a Glyndwr Davies born 1917 and Betty E Davies born 1919 in the reg district of Pontypridd . Their mother's maiden name was Jeannette . As I'm interested in the surname Jennett or Jemmett and one of my distant relatives by the surname Jennett (Sophia Jennett) married a Joseph Davies and according to the 1911 census was living in the Rhondda , before I contact the registrar in Pontypridd requesting birth certficates .I wonder if there's anyone who might have these amongst their ancestors who might confirm that these are/are not the children of Joseph and Sophia . thanks Buddug Hollett

For any interested parties. 1851 Census High Street, Dowlais William Jones 33 Grocer born Carmarthenshire Esther Jones 30 born Breconshire Mary Jones 6 Scholar born Dowlais Elizabeth Jones 3 born Dowlais William Jones 3months born Dowlais also William Rees 26 John Lawes 23 Rachel Lawes 26 HO107; Piece: 2459; Folio: 214; Page: 3 -----Original Message----- From: Larry Thompson Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 10:50 PM To: glamorgan mailing list Subject: [GLA] Birth Cert. William Jones, b. 29 Dec. 1850 Hi group: I recently ordered a birth Cert. for William Jones., b. 7 Jun 1851 and they sent me the subject, so I decided to publish the information in case anybody else can use it. District Merthyr Tydfil, sub-district Merthyr Tydfil Upper. B. 29 Dec 1850 @Forge Row Dowlais, William, Father William Jones Mother Esther Jones formerly Williams Fathers occupation unclear, but could be grocer. Registered 4th Feb 1851. I contacted the GRO and they stated they would air mail the correct document. Larry

Hi group: I recently ordered a birth Cert. for William Jones., b. 7 Jun 1851 and they sent me the subject, so I decided to publish the information in case anybody else can use it. District Merthyr Tydfil, sub-district Merthyr Tydfil Upper. B. 29 Dec 1850 @Forge Row Dowlais, William, Father William Jones Mother Esther Jones formerly Williams Fathers occupation unclear, but could be grocer. Registered 4th Feb 1851. I contacted the GRO and they stated they would air mail the correct document. Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Continuing my extraction of the MON entries from the 1851 Religious Census - this entry may be of general interest. <The Forge Room, Lantarnam, Baptist Erected 1849, not used exclusively as a place of worship Attendance - morning 32 + 22 scholars, afternoon 56 scholars, evening 65 Thomas Morgan, Manager, Pudler Cwmbran Iron Works (Llanfihangel Llantarnum) I don't think I've previously noticed a entry where the chapel was apparently based within the Iron Works (or any other works) and in a building seemingly used by the latter too. Perhaps it started out as a works sponsored Sunday School for children and developed into a full blown chapel from there. Neither do I recall seeing before an informant who was obviously a member of the works management. Should this snippet give anyone a taste for more background on links between schools, religion and industry in south Wales around the mid C19th, then there is a wealth of data on Genuki's pages, as with this selection; http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Schools.html Day Schools in Glamorgan in 1847 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/Roberts.html The Journal of William Roberts ('Nefydd'), 1853-62 http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BritishSchools.html British Schools in South Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CollierySchls.html Colliery Schools in South Wales in the Nineteenth Century http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CopperSchls.html Copper-Works Schools in South Wales during the Nineteenth Century http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/VolEd.html Voluntary Education in the Industrial Areas of Wales before 1870 On a different point, I have so far seen hardly any entries in MON where Parish Church services were held in Welsh, and on one I do recall 1 service was in Welsh and the other in English. Apart from anything else I guess there were very few bilingual Church clerics around in 1851. I emphasise that I am specifically referring to MON here, but there were no doubt similarities to Glamorgan. Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

I found the email. It was from Sean Duggan!! I am so happy! Nancy -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Rogers Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2011 12:55 AM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] "lost" important email message Hi, Some kind person on this list sent me an email last weekend telling me that my great grandparents Mary Ellen Corbett and James Clifford lived on High St. In Merthyr in 1852 and that James Clifford worked as a furnace filler. There was mention of where he might have worked. They also told me that an ancestor of theirs lived there at the same time and might have worked at the same place. I have "lost" the email and feel bad about it. Could whomever it was, please resend me that same email message because it had other information that was valuable to me. There was information in the email on how to obtain records from the churches, etc I am sorry to ask this and hope it is not too much of a bother. I have a new computer and it is giving me some problems. Thanks! Nancy Clifford Rogers -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Some kind person on this list sent me an email last weekend telling me that my great grandparents Mary Ellen Corbett and James Clifford lived on High St. In Merthyr in 1852 and that James Clifford worked as a furnace filler. There was mention of where he might have worked. They also told me that an ancestor of theirs lived there at the same time and might have worked at the same place. I have "lost" the email and feel bad about it. Could whomever it was, please resend me that same email message because it had other information that was valuable to me. There was information in the email on how to obtain records from the churches, etc I am sorry to ask this and hope it is not too much of a bother. I have a new computer and it is giving me some problems. Thanks! Nancy Clifford Rogers

Hi, You can search the Archives for the email if it was also sent to the full list. Directions to do that are at the bottom of every Group email (like this one). If it was a private message to you only, then I hope the person sees this. You might consider putting the surnames in the subject line if you don't get a response, as that might catch their attention. Good luck--I hate it when I lose messages! Mona ________________________________ From: Nancy Rogers <rogers1n@comcast.net> To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, March 22, 2011 11:55:25 PM Subject: [GLA] "lost" important email message Hi, Some kind person on this list sent me an email last weekend telling me that my great grandparents Mary Ellen Corbett and James Clifford lived on High St. In Merthyr in 1852 and that James Clifford worked as a furnace filler. There was mention of where he might have worked. They also told me that an ancestor of theirs lived there at the same time and might have worked at the same place. I have "lost" the email and feel bad about it. Could whomever it was, please resend me that same email message because it had other information that was valuable to me. There was information in the email on how to obtain records from the churches, etc I am sorry to ask this and hope it is not too much of a bother. I have a new computer and it is giving me some problems. Thanks! Nancy Clifford Rogers -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 3. 1926.  No. 284. OBITUARIES. MR. J. WEST-JONES, BAGLAN Mr. John WEST-JONES, of Danycoed, Baglan, Briton Ferry, died on Thursday evening at the age of 65 years. He was managing director of Thomas JENKINS and Sons (Limited), metal merchants, Briton Ferry, and was out on business last week. He contracted a chill and pleurisy supervened. Mr. JONES came to Briton Ferry many years ago from Llanfyrnach, Pembrokeshire, as a clerk to the old Vernon Tinplate Company, Briton Ferry, and when Baglan Bay Tinplate Works was started he was appointed a cashier. He afterwards became manager of the Ashburnham Tinplate Company, Burry Port. Subsequently he became manager of the firm of Thomas JENKINS and Sons, and when the firm became a limited company he was made managing director. He was also a director of the Ynyslan Colliery Company. He was a deacon of the English Congregational Church at Briton Ferry. A widow, three grown up sons, and one daughter survive. MR. D. GRIFFITHS, FORMERLY OF MERTHYR. Mr. Daniel GRIFFITHS, for forty years inspector of works under the Merthyr Corporation, died on Thursday at Brynawel, Llanstephan, the residence of his son-in-law and daughter (Mr. and Mrs. E. S. EVANS), in his 81st year. On his retirement from Merthyr five years ago he made his home at Llanstephan. Mr. GRIFFITHS had been deacon of Gwernllwyn Congregational Church, Dowlais, for thirty-five years and later served as a deacon of Bethel Congregational Church, Llanstephan. The funeral (private) will be at Pant Cemetery, Dowlais, on Monday. MR. W. C. DANIEL, PENTRE. The death has taken place in St. Mary's Hospital, Paddington, of Mr. William Chas. DANIEL, of Queen-street, Pentre, who for over twenty years had been employed at the Abergorky Colliery, Treorky, and was overman in the smith's shop. A single man 47 years of age, he was spending an holiday in London following an operation when he was suddenly taken ill and died the day following his admittance to St. Mary's Hospital. He was exceedlingly popular in the Rhondda Valleys, and at one time was an active worker in the Conservative cause. He is survived by his parents, Mr. and Mrs. Robert DANIEL life-long residents in the Valleys.   The funeral takes place to-morrow (Saturday) at Treorky Cemetery. BURIAL OF MR. W. J. DAVIES, CARDIFF. The funeral of Mr.William James DAVIES, retired licensed victualler, who died on Sunday at his residence, Ty Gwyn, Lake-road East, Cardiff, in his 67th year took place at the Cardiff Cemetery on Thursday. The Rev.-. DAVIES, of All Saints Church, conducted the service.   The mourners were Mr. George DAVIES (son), Mr. D. S. DAVEY (son-in-law). Messrs. M. THORPE, H. EVANS, A. BURGE and F. CADDOCK (brothers-in-law). Mr. T. JOHN (Messrs. David JOHN and Co.), Mr. J. O. ROBERTS (Hancock's Brewery), and Mr. MULHOLLAND. LATE MRS. GWENLLIAN EDMUNDS, CARDIFF. Mrs. Gwenllian EDMUNDS, of 2, Burnaby-street, Cardiff, was buried in the Cardiff Cemetery on Thursday. The Revs. D. J. HENRY, B.A., and T. O. PHILLIPS, Cardiff officiated at Jerusalem Calvinistic Methodist Church, where Mrs. EDMUNDS was an active member, and at the graveside. RECENT WILLS. MR. JAMES THOMAS, CARDIFF. Mr. James THOMAS, of Dilcusha, Cyncoed-road, Cardiff, formerly of The Stores, Porthcawl, steel works manager until six years ago of the Dowlais Cardiff Works who died on July 8, aged 76 years, left estate of the gross value of £6,335, with net personalty £4, 205. Probate of the will dated October 15, 1923, with a codicil of June 17, 1926, has been granted to Mr. John Llewelyn JONES, of Cyncoed House, Hollybush-road, Penylan, his widow, Mrs. Elizabeth THOMAS, who was named as executrix, having died on October 8 last. Testator left his residence to his wife for life, with remainder to his daughter Florence Enid Gwendoline THOMAS during spinsterhood, with remainder to the residuary estate; his household effects his property in trust for her for life and then for his children of their issue in equal shares, sums already advanced to be brought into account by them respectively. MR. G. LL. HUGHES, PONTHIR. Mr. George Llewelyn HUGHES, of Gorsafdy, Ponthir. Mon., retired income tax collector, formerly of Pontypool, who died on September 20, left estate of the gross value of £1,062. with net personalty £181. Probate of the will has been granted to his widow, Mrs. Sarah HUGHES.  john Patrick

Thanks Ian - Yes, I did read it as an annual event but then inadvertently implied something more in my commentary. Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html -----Original Message----- From: IAN GRAHAM Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 12:24 AM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6,Issue 141 Genuki - 1851 Religious Census comments of interest - Morning, Gareth. Isn't this more specific than you are reading it ? I.e. an annual event, rather than a weekly one ? (Though there may well have been other similar days of release across a year - it'll be interesting to see whether you come across any.) Ian G.

Morning, Gareth. Isn't this more specific than you are reading it ? I.e. an annual event, rather than a weekly one ? (Though there may well have been other similar days of release across a year - it'll be interesting to see whether you come across any.) Ian G. ----- Original Message ----- From: <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 7:00 AM Subject: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 141 > > > To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com > and be patient. Jeff. List Admin > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: RICHARDS in 1881 (Ann Ward) > 2. Re: Genuki - 1851 Religious Census comments of interest - > another one (Gareth) > 3. O'Brien/Morant (Julie) > 4. fernhill cemetry aberdare/mouthain ash (karen bailey) > 5. RICHARD[S]in The censuses. (robert williams) > 6. News Items October 1st to December 31st 1926. No. 283. > (J GRIFFITHS) > 7. Church Records/Loughor GLA (Shirley Hungerford) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:26:15 -0000 > From: "Ann Ward" <paryanward@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [GLA] RICHARDS in 1881 > To: "robert williams" <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com>, > <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <D3E24D82E5AD4251AC904015581374B2@clough> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi again Graham > > I've had a look at the 1871, 1881, 1891 and 1901 census for both William > RICHARD(S)s born about 1844 in Kidwelly. The husband of Sage gave his age > as > 26yrs in 1871. The 'other' William was living on Lady Street, Kidwelly. He > is recorded as a 25yr old Tinplate Worker, living with his wife Ruth. The > entry immediately before his is for a Mary RICHARD, a 58yr old widow born > in > Abergwilly. By 1881 William and Ruth have 2 sons, 9yr old James and 1yr > old > David. In 1891 James appears to have become William J, aged 19. David C is > 11yrs, Lizzy M 9yrs and Anne E 6yrs. The youngest child, Theophulius L, > aged > 4yrs, suggests that this William RICHARD(S) is the son of Theophilus and > Mary, especially as Mary was living near or with him in 1871. > > It looks like your workmate's William was the son of William and Catherine > RICHARD(S). The following 1841 entry could be for William Snr: > > 1841 > HO107 Piece 1385 Book 4 ED13 Folio 19c Page 11 > St Mary within, Kidwelly, Carmarthen > Elisabeth RICHARD 50yrs Y > William RICHARD 20yrs Y > Elisabeth RICHARD 15yrs Y > (no occupations were given for any of them) > > > Ann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert williams" <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 5:42 PM > Subject: [GLA] RICHARDS in 1881 > > > Greetings, this is for a workmate. > We have a William RICHARD[S] who was born about 1844 at Kidwelly,Carms; > who > was an "Inn Keeper" at New Inn. > He Married to Sage PROTHERO at Llanelli district in 1870.[from Free BMD;] > They had Catherine Mary RICHARD birth registered in 1879 at Llanelli. > Other possiblle children:- John S. b.c;1872 and David P. b.c;1875 both > born > at Kidwelly. > > All the above are the ancestors of Gwynfor Richard EVANS born > 1st;September > 1912 late of Plaid Cymru. > Gwynfor Married to Rhiannon Prys THOMAS in Cardiff in 1941. > > Previous census information for the above families would be very welcome. > Cheers Graham. > > From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. > Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:23:07 -0000 > From: "Gareth" <tirbach@clara.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Genuki - 1851 Religious Census comments of interest > - another one > To: "Glamorgan List" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <A21958B6CFD54F8F91CA7FC96CC4ADC4@STUDYPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Further to my previous message I show another extract which does include a > social commentary of possible general interest. > I'm thinking of the practice of letting farm servants go home for the day > on > the Sabbath, assuming distance allowed of course. > > Llanvapley parish church, MON > "Sunday March 30th being Midlent, or as it is called 'Mothering Sunday' is > ill chosen for Counting the Congregation at Church as on that day all farm > servants are permitted to visit their homes and many of them attend no > church while their absence keeps other members of the master's family at > home. My congregation was smaller than usual that day" > > > > Gareth > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Gareth > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 2:13 PM > To: Glamorgan List > Subject: Genuki - 1851 Religious Census comments of interest > > I've just started extending the coverage I have on Genuki for this > Religious > census from my 4 base counties of CGN,CMN,PEM,GLA to the rest of my Welsh > counties. > Now on MON, I thought these comments below may be of general interest, > usually, but not always, justifying why church attendance is low, and > usually Church of England, but not always. > > > snip > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:33:16 +0000 > From: Julie <juliegydglais@talktalk.net> > Subject: [GLA] O'Brien/Morant > To: Glamorgan List <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <4D8761AC.3030209@talktalk.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi List > I am looking for anyone connected to O'Briens or Morants in the > Morriston and Neath area, from 1900's on > > Thanks > Julie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:53:00 +0000 (GMT) > From: karen bailey <kazashkids@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [GLA] fernhill cemetry aberdare/mouthain ash > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <949000.91552.qm@web29510.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > hi > is there a disc/microfiche i can buy that has fernhill cemetry? (on the > aberdare > road )records on it > i am looking for thomas relatives buried there. > thanks > karen > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:12:15 +0000 (GMT) > From: robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> > Subject: [GLA] RICHARD[S]in The censuses. > To: glamorgan-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <866384.54444.qm@web29716.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > My Thanks to Ann WARD,who I have thanked personally,for the Look-ups in > the Censuses,for Gwynfor EVANS's family. > Graham. > > From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. > Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:27:52 +0000 (GMT) > From: J GRIFFITHS <griffiths780@btinternet.com> > Subject: [GLA] News Items October 1st to December 31st 1926. No. > 283. > To: griffiths780@btinternet.com, glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Cc: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com, dyfed@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <594432.77189.qm@web87006.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 3. 1926.?? No. 283. > > FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. > > IN MEMORIAM. > > VOWLES.- In Loving Memory of Elsie, beloved wife of C. H. VOWLES, 126, > Bute-street, Treherbert.- Sadly missed.? R.I.P. > > RUSSELL.- In Fond and Loving Memory of our affectionate Mother and devoted > Gran. > who passed away December 3rd, 1912.- Loving daughter and son Cissie and > Charlie, > grandchildren, Alice and Len. > > QUIGLEY.- In Loving Memory of Martin QUIGLEY, died December 3rd 1910. Life > Boat > Tavern, Little Frederick-street, Cardiff.- R.I.P. > > PROBERT.- In Ever-loving Memory of our little darling Betty, youngest > daughter > of Tom and Laura PROBERT, Commercial-road, Abercarn, who fell asleep on > December > 3rd 1925 age 6.1/2 years/verse-Ever in the thoughts of Dada, Mama, and > Family. > > HARRIES.- In Loving Memory of Gran. Martha HARRIES, 179, Kenry-street, > Tonypandy, died November 29th 1924.- Remembered by Gladys and Howard. > > EVANS.- In Loving Memory of Mary Priscilla, beloved daughter of Mary > EVANS, Post > Office, Lisvane, who passed away at the Nursing Home, Llanishen. December > 3rd. > 1924. > > ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. > > WILLIAMS.- Mr. Edward WILLIAMS, and Family, Post Office, Brynsaddler, wish > to > thank all relatives and friends, and neighbours for their kind letters of > sympathy, and beautiful floral tributes. > > DEATHS. > > WILLIAMS.- On Wednesday December 1st, at Hollybush House, Newbridge, Mon., > Leah, > dearly-beloved wife of Morgan WILLIAMS. Funeral Saturday, leaving house > 2.30 for > burial at Beulah Cemetery; G.O. > > WILLIAMS.- On November 30th, at Nythfan, Melbourne -road, Llanishen, > Edward > WILLIAMS, aged 74 years, late of Hill Farm. Funeral on Saturday to leave > at 2.15 > p.m. for Wauntreoda; G.O. > > WEBBER.- On November 29th, at 4, Kitchener-road, Canton. William Lewis, > beloved?husband of Harriet WEBBER, passed peacefully away. Funeral Friday, > 2.30 > p.m.; G.O. > > THOMAS.- Suddenly, on the 1st inst., Margaret, widow of Lewis THOMAS, > formerly > of Rhydybine Farm,Talybont-on-Usk, Breconshire. Funeral Monday, 6th inst., > at > Llanfigan Church 2.30.p.m. Will friends kindly?meet at the Church. > > SHEPHERD.- On December 1st, at 26, Pentre-gardens. Ellen Margaret > SHEPHERD, > beloved wife of J. G. SHEPHERD, after a long and painful illness patiently > borne. Funeral Eleven a.m. Saturday. > > PARDOE. December 2nd, 1926, at Jeffrey's Cottage, Mountain Ash. Mary Ann, > the > beloved and faithful wife for 61 years of Alfred A. PARDOE. Funeral Monday > December 6th, at 3.15 p.m. for Caegam Cemetery; G.O. > > HIGGINS.- On December 2nd at King's College Hospital, London. John George > eldest > son of Charles and the late M. A. HIGGINS, aged 34 years. Requiem at St. > Peter's > Cardiff. Ten a.m. Monday funeral following ; G.O.? N.F.? R.I.P. > > GRIFFITHS.- On Thursday December 2nd at Brynawel, Llanstephan. Daniel > GRIFFITHS, > late of Dowlais, in his eighty-first year. Funeral Monday, December 6th, > at Pant > Cemetery: strictly private.? N.F. > > FOX.- On November 27th, at Westbrook, Herefordshire, Mills Guest FOX, > beloved > wife of the late J. B. FOX. Esq., and beloved sister of Evelyn HANDS. > > DANIEL.- On Sunday November 28, at St. Mary's Hospital, London. William > Charles > DANIEL (Foreman Smith. Abergorky Colliery) son of Mr. and Mrs. Robert > DANIEL > (Tailor), 13, Queen-street, Pentre. Funeral Saturday, 1.15 p.m. for > Treorky > Cemetery: G.O. > > BAKER.- On December 1st at Sunnydale, Faulkner-road, Newport, Frances > Taylor > BAKER, the dearly-loved wife of William BAKER, passed peacefully away. > Funeral > service at the house on Saturday at 11.30; interment at Newport Cemetery > Twelve > noon. > > MARRIAGES. > > YEO - EVANS. On November 22nd.at St. Paul's Church, Pontyclun, by the > Vicar the > Rev. J. J. DAVIES. Leonard eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. S. YEO, Camborne, > Cornwall, to Maud only daughter of Mrs. M. J. EVANS and the late Mr. Lewis > H. > EVANS (ap Eos Dar) of Caslau-road, Pontyclun. > > PHILLIPS - THOMAS.- December 2nd. At St. John's, Cardiff, by the Rev. > David > JENKINS (St. Brides) assisted by the Rev. A. J. EDWARDS. Kenneth, only son > of > the late Mr. and Mrs. James PHILLIPS, Cardiff, to Dorothy, daughter of Mr. > and > Mrs. Richard THOMAS, of St. Fagan's. > > BIRTHS. > > THOMAS.- On December 1st at Bryngwyn, Longacre-road, Carmarthen, to Mr. > and Mrs. > Emlyn THOMAS (nee Blodwen JONES) a son. > > DYKE.- On December 1st, at 88, Diana-street, Cardiff. To Mr. and Mrs. F. > DYKE, a > daughter. > > IN MEMORIAM-ROLL OF HONOUR. > > EDWARDS.- In Loving Memory of Cynfelyn, Welsh Guards (781), the > dearly-loved son > of William and Mrs. EDWARDS, 1, Pentwyn-avenue, Penrhiceiber, who died the > 3rd > December. 1918. > > John Patrick. > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:59:06 -0400 > From: Shirley Hungerford <srh546@twcny.rr.com> > Subject: [GLA] Church Records/Loughor GLA > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <59408A88-6B13-46E8-BACC-7FC188EACA6F@twcny.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Hello Listers, > Can someone please direct me to church/parish records of Moriah > Chapel in Loughor, GLA? I believe my HARRY and RICHARDS relatives > may be included in those records. I am also trying to find out if my > g uncle, David HARRY, is the person described in an article as being > an 'unofficial' minister at the Chapel in the 1865 - 1880 time period. > Many thanks! > Shirley > USA > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to > GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an email to > GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 141 > *****************************************

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 3. 1926.   No. 283. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. IN MEMORIAM. VOWLES.- In Loving Memory of Elsie, beloved wife of C. H. VOWLES, 126, Bute-street, Treherbert.- Sadly missed.  R.I.P. RUSSELL.- In Fond and Loving Memory of our affectionate Mother and devoted Gran. who passed away December 3rd, 1912.- Loving daughter and son Cissie and Charlie, grandchildren, Alice and Len. QUIGLEY.- In Loving Memory of Martin QUIGLEY, died December 3rd 1910. Life Boat Tavern, Little Frederick-street, Cardiff.- R.I.P. PROBERT.- In Ever-loving Memory of our little darling Betty, youngest daughter of Tom and Laura PROBERT, Commercial-road, Abercarn, who fell asleep on December 3rd 1925 age 6.1/2 years/verse-Ever in the thoughts of Dada, Mama, and Family. HARRIES.- In Loving Memory of Gran. Martha HARRIES, 179, Kenry-street, Tonypandy, died November 29th 1924.- Remembered by Gladys and Howard. EVANS.- In Loving Memory of Mary Priscilla, beloved daughter of Mary EVANS, Post Office, Lisvane, who passed away at the Nursing Home, Llanishen. December 3rd. 1924. ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. WILLIAMS.- Mr. Edward WILLIAMS, and Family, Post Office, Brynsaddler, wish to thank all relatives and friends, and neighbours for their kind letters of sympathy, and beautiful floral tributes. DEATHS. WILLIAMS.- On Wednesday December 1st, at Hollybush House, Newbridge, Mon., Leah, dearly-beloved wife of Morgan WILLIAMS. Funeral Saturday, leaving house 2.30 for burial at Beulah Cemetery; G.O. WILLIAMS.- On November 30th, at Nythfan, Melbourne -road, Llanishen, Edward WILLIAMS, aged 74 years, late of Hill Farm. Funeral on Saturday to leave at 2.15 p.m. for Wauntreoda; G.O. WEBBER.- On November 29th, at 4, Kitchener-road, Canton. William Lewis, beloved husband of Harriet WEBBER, passed peacefully away. Funeral Friday, 2.30 p.m.; G.O. THOMAS.- Suddenly, on the 1st inst., Margaret, widow of Lewis THOMAS, formerly of Rhydybine Farm,Talybont-on-Usk, Breconshire. Funeral Monday, 6th inst., at Llanfigan Church 2.30.p.m. Will friends kindly meet at the Church. SHEPHERD.- On December 1st, at 26, Pentre-gardens. Ellen Margaret SHEPHERD, beloved wife of J. G. SHEPHERD, after a long and painful illness patiently borne. Funeral Eleven a.m. Saturday. PARDOE. December 2nd, 1926, at Jeffrey's Cottage, Mountain Ash. Mary Ann, the beloved and faithful wife for 61 years of Alfred A. PARDOE. Funeral Monday December 6th, at 3.15 p.m. for Caegam Cemetery; G.O. HIGGINS.- On December 2nd at King's College Hospital, London. John George eldest son of Charles and the late M. A. HIGGINS, aged 34 years. Requiem at St. Peter's Cardiff. Ten a.m. Monday funeral following ; G.O.  N.F.  R.I.P. GRIFFITHS.- On Thursday December 2nd at Brynawel, Llanstephan. Daniel GRIFFITHS, late of Dowlais, in his eighty-first year. Funeral Monday, December 6th, at Pant Cemetery: strictly private.  N.F. FOX.- On November 27th, at Westbrook, Herefordshire, Mills Guest FOX, beloved wife of the late J. B. FOX. Esq., and beloved sister of Evelyn HANDS. DANIEL.- On Sunday November 28, at St. Mary's Hospital, London. William Charles DANIEL (Foreman Smith. Abergorky Colliery) son of Mr. and Mrs. Robert DANIEL (Tailor), 13, Queen-street, Pentre. Funeral Saturday, 1.15 p.m. for Treorky Cemetery: G.O. BAKER.- On December 1st at Sunnydale, Faulkner-road, Newport, Frances Taylor BAKER, the dearly-loved wife of William BAKER, passed peacefully away. Funeral service at the house on Saturday at 11.30; interment at Newport Cemetery Twelve noon. MARRIAGES. YEO - EVANS. On November 22nd.at St. Paul's Church, Pontyclun, by the Vicar the Rev. J. J. DAVIES. Leonard eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. S. YEO, Camborne, Cornwall, to Maud only daughter of Mrs. M. J. EVANS and the late Mr. Lewis H. EVANS (ap Eos Dar) of Caslau-road, Pontyclun. PHILLIPS - THOMAS.- December 2nd. At St. John's, Cardiff, by the Rev. David JENKINS (St. Brides) assisted by the Rev. A. J. EDWARDS. Kenneth, only son of the late Mr. and Mrs. James PHILLIPS, Cardiff, to Dorothy, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Richard THOMAS, of St. Fagan's. BIRTHS. THOMAS.- On December 1st at Bryngwyn, Longacre-road, Carmarthen, to Mr. and Mrs. Emlyn THOMAS (nee Blodwen JONES) a son. DYKE.- On December 1st, at 88, Diana-street, Cardiff. To Mr. and Mrs. F. DYKE, a daughter. IN MEMORIAM-ROLL OF HONOUR. EDWARDS.- In Loving Memory of Cynfelyn, Welsh Guards (781), the dearly-loved son of William and Mrs. EDWARDS, 1, Pentwyn-avenue, Penrhiceiber, who died the 3rd December. 1918. John Patrick.

Hello Listers, Can someone please direct me to church/parish records of Moriah Chapel in Loughor, GLA? I believe my HARRY and RICHARDS relatives may be included in those records. I am also trying to find out if my g uncle, David HARRY, is the person described in an article as being an 'unofficial' minister at the Chapel in the 1865 - 1880 time period. Many thanks! Shirley USA

My Thanks to Ann WARD,who I have thanked personally,for the Look-ups in the Censuses,for Gwynfor EVANS's family. Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.