Hi Wendy and all. The project Wendy makes reference to was called "Living Archive Centre For Valley And Vale". Quite rightly Wendy points out that it was short lived. Again rightly. As I was also led to believe. Items which they had collected were storred elswhere for a time. I am also led to believe, that, all they had collected on Barry was returned to the keeping of the then Old Barry Library. As an organisation, Axis, was assisted by relatives of a former member of our society to managed to seek and succesfully get the return of a collection of slides and an old camera. This was something. But not all that had been donated to them by said individual. The slides and camera along with many items that our former member gave to us. Still reside with our collection. I know that Barry Library did make a formal annoucement after Living Archive Centre returned Barry material to them. It outlined a set period of time in which if anyone wanted an item formerly donated L.A.C. returned. This would have been some years back now. I am also led to believe at the time. Barry Public Library was endeavoring to catalogue items returned. So, if such cattalogues exist. Wendy may have a starting point to trace her Mother's items. However. With a formal annoucement in place. Such items would now below to the library as the period of grace for return would be long expired. But, it may mean that Wendy could obtain copies of said items from Barry Library. (if still available). It might be the way forward. Living Archive Centre was a well funded project. With paid staff, And, a totally separate organisation to ourselves. Therefore, we held, no controls over their operation or any Barry related historical material they may have held. Or what should happen with it on L.A.C.s demise. On the other hand. Axis Historical Society has always been completly run by volunteers who have had no opportunity to exhibit our own extensive collection Barry held historical material on a long term basis in such a premises. A chance, the L.A.C. had, but did not bare fruit. The fact that a project like L.A.C. could fail, with sound financial backing, only serves to make Axis, rightly cautious, to who, what, and where, we should commit our own extensive local history collection, when asked for our support. Our online project. Axis Historical Society - Barry Archive. Is not associated in any way with the former Living Archive Centre For Valley and Vale. As we had no permanent base for our own extensive Barry stock, we decided, the net was the best way to go. That way, people could see more of what we had more frequently. It has also empowered our support to take decision to donate actual / or copy items for use with our collection. For those who don't want to risk actual items. An file in JPG format is quite sufficient for display on our web site. And to make a copy for our records. Though we still have the genuine article donated to us from time to time as can be seen from the photogrpahs of the fire damage to the Barry Memorial Hall c.1943 we have recently added to the site. So we have an an excellent ballance of genuine and copy which formed the building blocks of a very good collection. Still present. for Barry, since we were formed in 1993. Now going out to all in the world via the net. In 2011. We sorry that my post served to remind Wendy and made her upset re her Mother's donated items to Living Archive Centre. However, I hope my information will put her back on the trail of her Mother's treasured items. http://barryachive.zoomshare.com/ Regards Martin Chairman : Axis Hisctorical Society Local History For Barry South Wales Reg Chairty no.1052998 See Axis Historical Society - Barry Archive Link provided above. > From: martinaxis@hotmail.co.uk > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 12:39:15 +0100 > Subject: [GLA] Barry Local History > > > Quick message to let all members of this list know that "Axis Historical Society - Local History For Barry South Wales" Reg chairty no. 1052998 is still active. With a change of e mail address. This is now martinaxis@hotmail.co.uk Thus anyone still having our old address on record should update to the above. Our collection of of Barry related historical photogrpahs, documents and artefacts still grows. A considerable number of items from our proud local history collection are now available online, free to view, they can be found at. > > > > http://barryachive.zoomshare.com/ > > > > For all who may previously know of us here on this list. A big hello to you all. For those who don't. Please take at look at our online Project : Axis Historical Society - Barry archive by way of the link above. Since the site began in August 2009 it has recieved over 96,000 hits. We hope to break the 100,000 mark by the end of 2011. Axis Historical Society was founded in 1993 with the aim of preserving the history of Barry by way photographs. Documents and Artefacts. This we are still doing. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Martin Adams B.A. > > Chairman : Axis Historical Society. > > Local History For Barry South Wales. > > Reg Charity no.1052998 > > e mail : martinaxis@hotmail.co.uk > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Living at 13 Lewis Street, Pentre, Rhondda with parents William (b. Kilkenny, Ireland) and Florence (b. Narberth. Pembrokeshire). Siblings were William, Cyril, Mary, Sydney and Benjamin Eynon (all mother's children by previous marriage?) plus Edward Murphy. Reference: RG14PN32349 RG78PN1853A RD589 SD4 ED21 SN279 Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Mc Cormack Could someone kindly look up James Patrick Murphy born Aug 1910 apparently Ton Pentre, Rhonnda in the 1911 census? Jimmy went onto coach Manchester United (who?) and his story is being featured tonight or later in the week I believe.

Answered off-list. Dai On 24/04/2011 16:12, Kevin Mc Cormack wrote: > > Hello All, > > Could someone kindly look up James Patrick Murphy born Aug 1910 apparently Ton Pentre, Rhonnda in the 1911 census? > > Jimmy went onto coach Manchester United (who?) and his story is being featured tonight or later in the week I believe. > > Best regards, Kevin. > > > > > > > > > > >

Many thanks, that's what I was really after.....to know what County the family were from in Ireland. Regards, Kevin.

Hello All, Could someone kindly look up James Patrick Murphy born Aug 1910 apparently Ton Pentre, Rhonnda in the 1911 census? Jimmy went onto coach Manchester United (who?) and his story is being featured tonight or later in the week I believe. Best regards, Kevin.

On 24/04/2011 1:15 AM, Mary Beth Adams wrote: > Hello List, > > Does anyone know anything about Hoare Brothers Studio, Oxford Art Gallery, > Oxford Street, Swansea? > > Regards, > > Mary Beth Hi Mary Beth, http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/VicPhoto1.html#GLA gives the following info about the Hoare Brothers in Swansea HOARE Bros. 43 Henrietta St, Swansea 1895 HOARE Bros. 66 Oxford St, Swansea 1895, 1899,1901 HOARE Wm. Hy. 66 Oxford St, Swansea 1906 HOARE Wm. Hy. 241 Oxford St, Swansea 1910 --- to Stone? HOARE W. H. 13 Heathfield St,''1914, 1920, 1923, 1926 --- from Siedle Bros All the above addresses were within a few hundred yards of each other. Oxford Street and Henrietta Street still exist, but Heathfield Street was destroyed by enemy action during WW2 and now exists as The Kingsway. A search of Google Earth will show you the present day Oxford and Henrietta Streets -- Cheers Peter Neath

Wendy I too visited the 'Living History' project at the Memo, and found quite a few things relating to my past. But as you say what happened to it all, is there anyone from Axis that can put light on the subject??. Barry and the Vale have been screaming out for years for some sort of museum. But for some unknown reasons of their own,the councils ( both ) have not listened. The area is so rich in history it's sad to see it being ignored. (sorry to rant .I've had my say, that's it, thank you.) -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WLawday@aol.com Sent: 24 April 2011 09:34 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] BARRY HISTORY Today's posting by Martin re. AXIS reminded me that I donated my late mother's Barry mementoes to the short-lived 'Living History' project while it was located at the Memorial Hall. The last time I enquired as to what had happened to the items they had collected, I was told they were all stored 'somewhere in the Valleys', presumably never to be seen by anyone interested in them. I still fee quite upset about this, as the items included a couple of things Mum had kept since girlhood, and a list of names from a collection fund on behalf of soldiers WW2, which my gt. aunt had been connected with.. At the time I thought I was 'doing the right thing' by donating them, and I hope that AXIS might be able to retrieve them, along with the rest of the collection. WENDY -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all Rather appropriate with Anzac Day coming up - The aim of The War Graves Photographic Project is to photograph every war grave, individual memorial, MoD grave, and family memorial of serving military personnel from WWI to the present day and make these available within a searchable database. <http://www.twgpp.org/index.php> http://www.twgpp.org/index.php I don't think it is yet complete but I found a few of mine. Lyn in Oz.

Today's posting by Martin re. AXIS reminded me that I donated my late mother's Barry mementoes to the short-lived 'Living History' project while it was located at the Memorial Hall. The last time I enquired as to what had happened to the items they had collected, I was told they were all stored 'somewhere in the Valleys', presumably never to be seen by anyone interested in them. I still fee quite upset about this, as the items included a couple of things Mum had kept since girlhood, and a list of names from a collection fund on behalf of soldiers WW2, which my gt. aunt had been connected with.. At the time I thought I was 'doing the right thing' by donating them, and I hope that AXIS might be able to retrieve them, along with the rest of the collection. WENDY

Hello List, Does anyone know anything about Hoare Brothers Studio, Oxford Art Gallery, Oxford Street, Swansea? Regards, Mary Beth

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 10. 1926.  No. 314. SUSPENDED THREE MONTHS-Drastic Punishment For Aberavon Player.   The referee's committee of the Welsh Rugby Union dealt out drastic punishment on Thursday to one of the layers reported for misconduct on the field.   Mr. R. W. BARRY (Cardiff), the referee in the recent Aberavon v Neath game at Neath, reported Stan DAVIES, of Aberavon, for reckless kicking, and DAVIES was suspended for three months.   Mr. D. O. HOWELL, the referee in the Neyland v Haverfordwest game, reported S. SUTTON (Neyland) for disputing his decisions and using abusive language, and he was suspended up to and including December 18. CWMAMAN MAN DIES IN PIT.    An underground  workman, Joseph WINSENER (60), of 22, Glynhavod, Cwmaman, Aberdare, died at his work at the Fforchwen Pit of the Cwmaman Coal Company. CORONER MYSTIFIED. Investigation Into Rail Tragedy At Sully.    In order to make further inquiries, and for the production of a Great Western Railway plan of the locality and position of the body when found. Mr. Archibald DANIELS (deputy coroner) adjourned the inquest at Barry Dock on Thursday on Hannah PEARCE (68), of Chesterfield-street, Cadoxton, who was decapitated body was discovered 70 yards from the Sully Railway Station on Tuesday morning.   The Coroner confessed that he was mystified as to how the woman could have got onto the line.    Ellen WILLIAMS said her sister, a widow, left the house on Monday while she (witness) was out. Witness thought she was visiting a niece in Sully, and did not worry herself even when her sister failed to appear at night. Some months ago she had gone to her niece, and had lost her way when returning home.    The niece, Elsie Florence DEMPSEY, Mataqut House Sully, said her aunt had not called on Monday.   A railway porter, William Noel COLLINS, said he saw the woman alight from the 5.30 p.m. train on Monday at Sully, and as she was crossing the metals he assisted her to the road. She could not return without coming back through the booking office, or goods yard both of which were closed.   William COOMBES, a Swanbridge platelayer, said while in a Penarth bound train on Tuesday morning he saw what he thought was a sack. The train stopped, and he jumped out and found the decapitated the body on the line.    Police-constable T. PARSONS said a walking stick used by deceased was found alongside the body, as if placed there. He imagined she had been dead about twelve hours. The woman could have climbed over a 5ft. gate, or else gained access to the line by scaling a 45ft. cutting. The body, however, bore no evidence of her descent, and no road was in the proximity. KICKED FOUR POLICEMEN-Troublesome Elderly Man At Aberdare.   Hearing some kicking at the front door of the Bridgend Inn, Aberdare, late at night. Police-constable EVANS went to investigate. He found James GRIFFITHS, an elderly man of no fixed abode, who hit him in the face. There was a struggle, and Police-constable RICHARDS arrived, and the two policemen took GRIFFITHS to the poice-station.    On approaching Duke-street GRIFFITHS attemted to bolt after kicking Police-constable RICHARDS in the stomach. There was another scuffle during which Police-inspector Owen THOMAS, and Police-constables CHARLES and FRASER arrived.    In the fight that followed, GRIFFITHS kicked the four constables about the legs. Eventually he had to be carried bodily to the lock-up.    At Mountain Ash police-court GRIFFITHS was charged with drunkeness and with assaulting Police-constables, EVANS, RICHARDS, CHARLES, and FRASER.   The Clerk; Have you any questions to put to the constables.?   Defendant: No, Sir. Let them carry on.   The Stipendiary: One month's hard labour in respect of each of the officers, making five months in all. DOG AND SHEEP-Aberpergwm Allegations Denied.   At Neath County-court on Thursday the Colonial Lands Improvement Company (Limited), of Jersey, the owners of the Aberpergwym Estate, sued Fred EYNON, the Bungalow, Cwmgwrach, for £24 damages to sheep caused by the defendant's dog. It was alleged that defendant's dog bit, worried, and killed ten sheep and mutilated two on September 29, 1924, and October 3, 1924. Mr. Windsor WILLIAMS prosecuted , and Mr. W. A. LEYSHON defended. James McDERMOTT, shepherd, gave evidence of seeing the defendant's dog attack one sheep and finding the sheep killed in the same manner as others.    The defendant said the dog in question was a five months' old terrier and a lodger named CASEY had a bigger dog. Since the police-court proceedings CASEY had disappeared, and witness had done away with his puppy. He denied that his dog had killed his sheep.   The case was adjourned for a legal inquiry. John Patrick.

Quick message to let all members of this list know that "Axis Historical Society - Local History For Barry South Wales" Reg chairty no. 1052998 is still active. With a change of e mail address. This is now martinaxis@hotmail.co.uk Thus anyone still having our old address on record should update to the above. Our collection of of Barry related historical photogrpahs, documents and artefacts still grows. A considerable number of items from our proud local history collection are now available online, free to view, they can be found at. http://barryachive.zoomshare.com/ For all who may previously know of us here on this list. A big hello to you all. For those who don't. Please take at look at our online Project : Axis Historical Society - Barry archive by way of the link above. Since the site began in August 2009 it has recieved over 96,000 hits. We hope to break the 100,000 mark by the end of 2011. Axis Historical Society was founded in 1993 with the aim of preserving the history of Barry by way photographs. Documents and Artefacts. This we are still doing. Kind regards Martin Adams B.A. Chairman : Axis Historical Society. Local History For Barry South Wales. Reg Charity no.1052998 e mail : martinaxis@hotmail.co.uk

Photos of: Church of St Mary the Virgin, Capel-y-ffin, BRE Dear Listers, The latest subject to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels collection' is: The remote Capel-y-ffin (chapel on the boundary) in the Vale of Ewyas, on the border between Breconshire and Herefordshire (photography by John Ball). Go to www.jlb2005.plus.com/walespic/churches/ and scroll down the index to the Capel-y-ffin link. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk John's Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists

My Thanks to Robert for the info;on that Church. I think they had a Fire there a few years ago,which could account it being boarded up? At least I now know what church it was. Thanks again, Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

Hi Graham That will almost certainly be the Siloam Welsh Baptist chapel in Corporation Rd which was converted from a chapel to Salvation Army use in 1955, but was disused by 1996, although a quick look on Google Earth shows it still has the Army boards up. Lay people are used in slightly different ways by different denominations: Here's a rough idea what the Baptists seem to do www.rpc.ox.ac.uk/index.php?pageid=93 Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of robert williams Does anyone know if there is anything in Print on "Lay Preachers?" As my family have told me that my late Great,Great,Grandfather Thomas Daniel WILLIAMS,[c.1846-1906]was one, in the church at the bottom of Corporation Road in Grangetown Cardiff. This church was later taken over by The "Salvation Army"as a meeting hall. I think the denomination was "Baptist?"

On the question of Religion, Does anyone know if there is anything in Print on "Lay Preachers?" As my family have told me that my late Great,Great,Grandfather Thomas Daniel WILLIAMS,[c.1846-1906]was one, in the church at the bottom of Corporation Road in Grangetown Cardiff. This church was later taken over by The "Salvation Army"as a meeting hall. I think the denomination was "Baptist?" Thanks Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

An interesting read yet I do believe that this gentleman is misguided. You can check practically any funeral notice and you will see the officiating minister listed as "Rev......" And I would NEVER dream of addressing a minister of religion as "Mr" were I to speak to him in person. Each to his own I suspect. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com> To: "glam" <GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Clergy and Titles--Answer > Hello All, > > A week or so ago I asked a question about how to address a minister from > Wales > who is also a Professor of Law at one of the universities. One of people > involved in getting him to come to the US wrote and asked him to clarify > and > here is his answer: > > > >> >>Subject: Re: Fw: Clergy and Titles >> >>Annwyl , >> >>Diolch am yr ebost ac ymddiheuriadau am yr oedi yn ymateb. >> >>The Reverend Professor John Smith is the usual form, and can of course be >>shortened to The Rev. Prof. if necessary. >> >>It should perhaps be noted that there is no double title here in >>the >>sense being described by Crockfords. They are thinking of two >>titles, >>one academic and one ecclesiastical, such as Professorand Canon, >>or >>Doctorand Canon. They are saying one should not mix these. > >>Here we come to what I believe, although I am not entirely sure, >>is a >>difference between practice in the US and in England and Wales. >>In >>England and Wales, 'the Reverend' is a courtesy title given to >>clergy; >>clergy are never addressed (other than on an envelope) as >>'Reverend'. >>Hence, the Reverend John Smith is addressed as Mr. Smith, the >>Reverend >>Dr. John Smith as Dr. Smith, the Reverend Professor John Smith >>as >>Professor Smith. I believe that in America - as in Scotland and >>Northern Ireland - Reverend is used as a title and one could >>therefore >>refer to 'Reverend Smith'. >> >> >>Hence, on the programme The Reverend Professor would be appropriate, but >>in >>introducing to me an audience, practice in England and Wales >>would be >>to say simply Professor because that is my only title - but practice in >>the US >>may well be different. >> >>I hope this is of some help. >> >>With my best wishes for a happy and blessed Easter - Pasg >>dedwydd, >> >> >> > It is interesting to see the differences between written and spoken forms > of address (although we would use The Rev./The Rev. Dr. in print in the US > and > 'Rev. Smith' in speech, so we use different forms, too). I still am not > sure > that we (in the US) would call someone Rev. Dr. if his doctorate was in > some > other field besides religion, though, but I don't need to know quite yet! > :) > Basically, what he says is that "Reverend" is not an actual title in > Wales, so > he is not mixing academic and ecclesiastical titles. > > I am glad he explained it so well. > > Hope this has been interesting to others. > > Mona > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mary If you go to this website page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountryWales.htm#PageTitle and ( part of the very useful IGI batch index created by the late Hugh Wallis - I have made much use of this website in recent years) then select a county and then a place you will often find dates for baptisms in various chapels. Click on the batch number ( usually begins with C eg C100401 for Abergwili, Carmarthen baptisms 1814-1837 at Pantgwn Calvinistic Methodist) and you should then see a new window where you can enter a surname and then search the IGI database. But if you do not enter a surname and just click on search you should get a list of all baptisms at that chapel/church for the dates given. The IGI contains a lot of non-conformist baptisms for Wales but by no means all - so the sources suggested by other listers may have to be looked at. Ian Logan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary godfrey" <mry-godfrey@orange.fr> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:59 PM Subject: [GLA] Nonconformists > > Can anyone tell me if there is a list of Nonconformists baptism's for > Wales, am looking for a few different area's? > > Kind Regards > Mary Godfrey

Hello All, A week or so ago I asked a question about how to address a minister from Wales who is also a Professor of Law at one of the universities. One of people involved in getting him to come to the US wrote and asked him to clarify and here is his answer: > >Subject: Re: Fw: Clergy and Titles > >Annwyl , > >Diolch am yr ebost ac ymddiheuriadau am yr oedi yn ymateb. > >The Reverend Professor John Smith is the usual form, and can of course be >shortened to The Rev. Prof. if necessary. > >It should perhaps be noted that there is no double title here in the >sense being described by Crockfords. They are thinking of two titles, >one academic and one ecclesiastical, such as Professorand Canon, or >Doctorand Canon. They are saying one should not mix these. >Here we come to what I believe, although I am not entirely sure, is a >difference between practice in the US and in England and Wales. In >England and Wales, 'the Reverend' is a courtesy title given to clergy; >clergy are never addressed (other than on an envelope) as 'Reverend'. >Hence, the Reverend John Smith is addressed as Mr. Smith, the Reverend >Dr. John Smith as Dr. Smith, the Reverend Professor John Smith as >Professor Smith. I believe that in America - as in Scotland and >Northern Ireland - Reverend is used as a title and one could therefore >refer to 'Reverend Smith'. > > >Hence, on the programme The Reverend Professor would be appropriate, but in >introducing to me an audience, practice in England and Wales would be >to say simply Professor because that is my only title - but practice in the US >may well be different. > >I hope this is of some help. > >With my best wishes for a happy and blessed Easter - Pasg dedwydd, > > > It is interesting to see the differences between written and spoken forms of address (although we would use The Rev./The Rev. Dr. in print in the US and 'Rev. Smith' in speech, so we use different forms, too). I still am not sure that we (in the US) would call someone Rev. Dr. if his doctorate was in some other field besides religion, though, but I don't need to know quite yet! :) Basically, what he says is that "Reverend" is not an actual title in Wales, so he is not mixing academic and ecclesiastical titles. I am glad he explained it so well. Hope this has been interesting to others. Mona

At 01:59 AM 20/04/2011, you wrote: >Can anyone tell me if there is a list of Nonconformists baptism's >for Wales, am looking for a few different area's? Kind Regards, Mary Godfrey Hi Mary I don't know of any online, but perhaps you might go to the Family Search Library Catalog of the LDS as they have lots of microfilms of non-conformist records. I have had quite a number of these microfilms which can be viewed at their family history libraries almost anywhere in the world, for a small donation. These days, of course, ordering of these films is done online - but first you have to select a LDS FH centre near to your home and perhaps enquire there. Local telephone book will assist you. They are very helpful folk. The films are even more helpful!!! 8-) For instance, the following is what is available for Wrexham, Denbighshire, North Wales: <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=24816&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1782-1837 Chester Street Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Particular Baptist <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=365398&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1788-1837 Penybryn Chapel (Wrexham : Independent or Congregational) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=24812&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1808-1837 Wern Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Independent) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=7030&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1811-1837 Abbot Street Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Calvinistic Methodist) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=362430&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1813-1837 Wesleyan Methodist Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=24718&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1820-1837 Penuel Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Independent) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=417125&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1828-1837 Harewood Chapel (Brymbo, Denbighshire : Calvinistic Methodist) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=24820&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1829-1837 Pentrefelin Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Independent) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=24769&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1833-1837 Tabernacle Chapel (Wrexham, Denbighshire : Calvinistic Methodist) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=362452&disp=Church+records>Church records, 1834-1836 Bwlch-gwyn Chapel (Bwlch-gwyn, Denbighshire : Welsh Calvinistic Methodist) <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=300284&disp=Diary+of+Joseph+Jenkins%2C+Baptist+minis>Diary of Joseph Jenkins, Baptist minister, Wrexham, <http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=300284&disp=Diary+of+Joseph+Jenkins%2C+Baptist+minis>1773-1791 Simply go to: <http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp>http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp and insert the town or village you are interested in. Good hunting. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz