Jennifer Cairns <jenmathias@gmail.com> wrote: Thomas Saunders aged 21, living in Abertridwr, previously lived in the "Huts" Senghenydd.. Can anyone tell me.. where were the victims of the 1913 disaster buried. Was there a general burial area, or were the men and boys buried in the burial ground of their family chapel/church - and where were the unidentified miners buried? Thomas had Baptist connections, but I don't actually know where the family worshipped at that time. ============= Dear Jen, I remember some years ago seeing lots of graves of the tragic victims of the Universal Colliery disaster at Penyrheol Cemetery on the B4263, about one mile southeast of Abertridwr (grid reference ST141881). I quote from the HistoryNet.com website's account: http://www.historynet.com/the-senghenydd-explosion-in-the-valley-of-the-shadow.htm/2 --------- There was no money in the Aber Valley, and no burial ground in its shallow soil. Coffins were hand carried by their comrades more than four miles up the mountain above Abertridwr to the churchyard of Eglwysilan. Six surviving miners bore each body, while six filed behind in relief. The graveyard could not contain them all, and another ground was opened in Penyrheol on the outskirts of Caerphilly. They lie in both cemeteries, row on row. --------- Kind regards, John -------------- John Ball Brecon, Mid Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http:/www.jlb2011.co.uk/

WESTERN MAIL SATURDAY DECEMBER 11.  1926.   No. 320. DEATHS. WRIGHT.- On December 10th, at 24, Harrismith-road, Roath Park, William WRIGHT, Marine Surveyor, in his 59th year, the beloved husband of Jean WRIGHT. Funeral arrangements later. WILLIAMS.- On Wednesday, December 8th, at 2, Alexandra-road, Gelli, Pentre Ystrad, David WILLIAMS, late Fireman Maindy Colliery. Funeral Monday, 13th, for Treorchy Cemetery; G.O. RUSSELL.- At 49, Villette-road, Sunderland, on the 8th December aged 59 years, Thomas William RUSSELL (Marine Engineer), beloved husband of Florence RUSSELL (nee EVANS), formerly of Cardiff. NICHOLAS.- On the 10th inst., at Myrtle Villa, Taffs Well. suddenly. Emily, youngest daughter of the late Daniel NICHOLAS, of Tonypandy. Funeral Tuesday. Service at Trinity. Taffs Well, at Eleven a.m. Interment at Glyn Taff Cemetery;  G.O. MORRIS.- On December 10th, at Glasfryn, Llandrindod Wells, Gwenllian, beloved wife of Morgan MORRIS, late of Rhondda Valley. Funeral Tuesday. December 14th at Two p.m. from the house. MORGAN.- On December 9th, Gladys Mary aged 7 years, the daughter of Mr. and Mrs. William MORGAN, of the Beaufort Arms Hotel, Ebbw Vale. Funeral Monday. 3.30 p.m., Ebbw Vale Cemetery; G.O. MITCHARD.- December 9th, at Melrose, Cefn-road, Blackwood. Hannah, widow of the late Alfred MITCHARD, M.E. Funeral Monday leaving house at 2.30 for Court-y-bella; G.O. HAYERS.- On December 9th, at 11, Cheltenham-terrace, Bridgend, Jane, widow of the late William HAYERS, Monumental Mason, of Bridgend, aged 77 years. Public funeral Monday 3.30. for Cemetery. GRIFFITHS.- On December 10th,at 12, Gibbs-road, Newport. Rachel, dearly-beloved wife of William E. GRIFFITHS, in her sixty-second year, passed peacefully away. Funeral strictly private from home, and interment takes place at Courtybella Church, Argoed, on Tuesday, 14th inst., arriving at Three p.m. Friends will kindly meet at church. FRASER.- At Thorndale, Pontardulais, on Wednesday. Robert FRASER. Funeral Saturday, Three p.m., at St. Teilo's Church; G.O. APPLEN.- On December 9th, at 2, Prince Edward-crescent, Ebbw Vale, in his 67th year. James Edward, beloved husband of Alice APPLEN. Funeral arrangements later. BIRTHS. YOUNG.- December 9, to Mr. and Mrs. Arthur YOUNG, Wembdon, Radyr, a daughter. OWEN.-December 9, at Llanellytd, Dolgelly, to Grace (nee Anna Grace BENNETT) wife of Gwilym Wynne OWEN, a daughter. DAVIES.- On the 10th December, at Plas Dinam, Llandinam, Montgomeryshire, the wife of David DAVIES, M.P. of a son. John Patrick

Delete my last post. think this might be them. Morganstown Cottage, Radyr, Cardiff William Davis 36 Engine Man Mary Davis 29 Willm Henry Davis 8 Thos Davis 6 Arthur Davis 4 Mary Louisa Davis 2 RG10; Piece: 5368; Folio: 51; Page: 6

29 Bridge Street, Cardiff. William W Davies 38 Mary Davies 35 William Davies 8 Arthur Davies 6 Marian Davies 3 Rise Davies 1 RG10; Piece: 5358; Folio: 56; Page: 31

Thank you David & John - this last in Radyr is the one I think! I have not been able to fin dthem - this is much appreciatedHelen ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving. > From: david@daijones.com > To: nell1@sympatico.ca; glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] FW: Mari Terel & Wiliam DAVIES in 1871 > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:39 +0100 > > Delete my last post. think this might be them. > > Morganstown Cottage, Radyr, Cardiff > > > William Davis 36 Engine Man > Mary Davis 29 > Willm Henry Davis 8 > Thos Davis 6 > Arthur Davis 4 > Mary Louisa Davis 2 > > RG10; Piece: 5368; Folio: 51; Page: 6

♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving. From: nell1@sympatico.ca To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Mari Terel & Wiliam DAVIES in 1871 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:53:26 +0000 Morning all, This information is probably right in front of me on Ancestry but I cannot for the life of me find this couple in the 1871 census - I am hoping someone with better eyes might help >>> Mary Terel (aka Mary) STOCKWOOD married William DAVIES on 23 Jan 1863 (IQ 1863 Cardiff Vol 11a P304) - I have them in 1881 on Adam Street Cardiff. William is a railway engine driver born Newtown ca 1834, Mari born Cardiff 1841. Children shown in 1881 are Wiliam H age 17 Thomas age 16, Arthur age 15,Mary L age 12. Any help would be appreciated :) HelenMontreal ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving.

WESTERN MAIL SATURDAY DECEMBER 11. 1926.  No. 319. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. IN MEMORIAM. REES.- To the Sacred Memory of Charlotte, beloved wife of Howell REES, who entered into rest on the 11th December, 1923.- So dearly loved, so sadly missed by Husband, Olive, and Bill. PHILLIPS.-In Affectionate Remembrance of my dear husband Llewellyn PHILLIPS, Ton Pentre, who departed this life December 11th, 1932.- Ever remembered by his loving Wife, Nieces, and Nephews. LEWIS.- Er coffadwriaeth am ein hannwyl Dad. y diweddar Barch. William LEWIS. Cwmparc. Hunodd Rhagfyr 11eg., 1919.- Ei Blant. JONES.- In Ever Loving Memory of my beloved wife, Ethel Lillian JONES, of the Three Compasses Hotel, Newcastle Emlyn, who passed away at the Cardigan Memorial Hospital on the 12th day of December 1925./verse.  Sadly missed by her Husband and little children Megan and Louie. JONES.- In Loving Memory of our dear daughter, Ethel, of the Three Compasses Hotel, Newcastle Emlyn, who passed away on the 12th day of December, 1925./verse.- Ever remembered by her Father, Auntie, and little Rena. JONES.- In Affectionate Remembrance of my dear husband, the Rev. William JONES, Dyfodwg House, Ton Pentre, who departed this life December 11th 1907. Sadly missed by his dear Wife and Children. HOWELLS.- In Ever-loving Memory of our beautiful Mother who passed away on December 12, 1923./verse. Sadly missed by her children, Glyn, Rhedynog, Mervyn, Islwyn, and Doreen Estella. HOWELLS.- In Ever-loving Memory of May, beloved wife of James O. HOWELLS, Osbourne House, Glyn Neath, who passed away December 12th, 1923./verse Deeply mourned by Husband. EVANS.- In Ever-loving Memory of our dear father James EVANS, Rhonville Porth, who died 11th, December, 1923.- Ever remembered by Lizzie, Gus, and Henry. EVANS.- In Ever-loving Memory of James, dearly-beloved husband of Emma EVANS, Rhonsville, Porth, who passed away December 11th 1923.Sadly missed by his loving Wife and Children, also nephew, Ben./verse. COUND.- In Loving Memory of my devoted husband William Evan, who died December 11th 1925. ANDREWS.- In Loving and Sweet Remembrance of our dear son, Godfrey, Thornbury House, Abertysswg. December 12th, 1925.- Dd, Mam, and All. John Patrick.

Class: RG10; Piece: 5358; Folio: 56; Page: 31; GSU roll: 848451. is this them? william W Davies age 38 Mary 35 William 8 Arthur 6 marian 3 and rise(son) 1 at 29 bridge street cardiff. william's occupation is house decorator John Tyner in ireland ________________________________ From: Helen D'All <nell1@sympatico.ca> To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 27 April, 2011 16:55:42 Subject: [GLA] FW: Mari Terel & Wiliam DAVIES in 1871 ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥            ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving. From: nell1@sympatico.ca To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Mari Terel & Wiliam DAVIES in 1871 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:53:26 +0000 Morning all, This information is probably right in front of me on Ancestry but I cannot for the life of me find this couple  in the 1871 census - I am hoping someone with better eyes might help >>> Mary Terel (aka Mary) STOCKWOOD married William DAVIES on 23 Jan 1863 (IQ 1863 Cardiff Vol 11a P304) - I have them in 1881 on Adam Street Cardiff. William is a railway engine driver born Newtown ca 1834, Mari born Cardiff 1841.  Children shown in 1881 are Wiliam H age 17 Thomas age 16, Arthur age 15,Mary L age 12. Any help would be appreciated :) HelenMontreal ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥            ♥♥♥♥♥              ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving.                         -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear List, Hind sight is 20/20 -- Should you photo copy before any donations?? However, I'm sure like Wendy, you would like to think your donation would be in good hands for the Local people of Barry or any other town, city or village. I don't know, maybe someone can shed some light on this?? If you donate to the National Library of Wales -- eventually it is documented. Is this the best avenue? Or Local -- In Wendy's case, I'm sure like many more over all the UK. Papers held, not documented and gathering dust, who knows where they have been sent. I am sort of in the same situation. My Dad, a local Historian. Collection is huge!!! Books, photos etc. I have told my Mum, not to let anyone in the house, do not give anything away. If my Dad has made provisions in his will, so be it. If not, and he goes before my Mum. My interest is in the well being of my Mum. It could be the case of bringing it all back to Australia. None of my sibling's including my Mum have no interest. However, I can't keep my Dad's work in Australia! So sell, sell, for the best price! If the tables are turned (this is a horrid thing to talk about) my Dad is the last -- it could end up the same scenario? Or a complete collection to the NLW???? for a price. I would have no control on what my siblings thought's or situation would be. I just hope Dad has made provisions. When the time comes, I just hope I do the right thing by all concerned. A lot of scanning!! Regards Jane M nee Clemett( W. Auss) Message: 2 Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 11:59:10 +0100 From: "lewis carter" <llewis.carter@ntlworld.com> <mailto:llewis.carter@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] BARRY HISTORY To: <WLawday@aol.com> <mailto:WLawday@aol.com> Cc: glamorgan@rootsweb.com <mailto:glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <A8482A854F4C49918AC938E712C9E59B@anyonefc71fdec> Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" Wendy I too visited the 'Living History' project at the Memo, and found quite a few things relating to my past. But as you say what happened to it all, is there anyone from Axis that can put light on the subject??. Barry and the Vale have been screaming out for years for some sort of museum. But for some unknown reasons of their own,the councils ( both ) have not listened. The area is so rich in history it's sad to see it being ignored. (sorry to rant .I've had my say, that's it,thank you.) -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com <mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of WLawday@aol.com <mailto:WLawday@aol.com> Sent: 24 April 2011 09:34 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com <mailto:glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Subject: [GLA] BARRY HISTORY Today's posting by Martin re. AXIS reminded me that I donated my late mother's Barry mementoes to the short-lived 'Living History' project while it was located at the Memorial Hall.The last time I enquired as to whathad happened to the items they had collected, I was told they were allstored 'somewhere in the Valleys', presumably never to be seen by anyone interested in them. I still fee quite upset about this, as the items included a couple of things Mum had kept since girlhood, and a list of names from a collection fund on behalf of soldiers WW2, which my gt. aunt had been connected with..At the time I thought I was 'doing the right thing'by donating them, and I hope that AXIS might be able to retrieve them, along with the rest of the collection. WENDY --

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 10. 1926.   No. 318. CARDIFF MINISTER'S 80th BIRTHDAY.   The Rev. William HARRIES, of Clare-street, Cardiff, celebrates his eightieth birthday this week. Born at Llandeloy, Pembrokeshire, he was trained for the Baptist ministry at Haverfordwest College, and held pastrorates at Marloes and Sandy Hill, Saundersfoot, Maesteg, and Cardiff, and for the past nineteen years has been the Nonconformist chaplain at the City and Ely Lodges.    He was also for many years the financial secretary of the Baptist College. Mr. HARRIES is hale and hearty, attends to his duties as well as those of the chaplaincy at the Whitchurch Mental Hospital. LORRY OVER BRINK OF MOUNTAIN.   While travelling in a motor-lorry over the Black Mountain from Brynamman to Llangaddock, Mr. Marshall MORRIS, of Penybank, Ammanford, met with an alarming accident.   He was accompanied by his man, Owen REES, and, after they had passed a hair-pin bend and were going down the road on the Gwynfi side, the vehicle dashed over the brink and down the steep mountainside for a distance of 30 to 40 yards, where it still remains.   Both men were able to jump clear and escaped injury, and the lorry was not damaged. WANTED, strong, willing Girl, Farmhouse; able to milk.- JENKINS, Talyfan, Ystradowen, Cowbridge. Mrs. D. HUISH and her pupils, the Beaufort Magnets, gave a charity programme at the Market-hall, Brynamman, in aid of the Town Relief Fund. FRAUD CHARGE FAILS-Cardiff Travellers Who Ordered A Car. Without calling on the defence, the Cardiff magistrates on Thursday dismissed a charge against Henry FARMER, traveller, Cardiff, of obtaining by false pretences a motor-car, valued at £160, the property of the A. T. MORSE Automobile Company (Limited), Charles-street, Cardiff, with the intent to defraud. Mr. Charles HARDWICKE prosecuted, and Mr. Harold LLOYD appeared for the defence.   Arthur Thomas MORSE, 35, Stacey-road, Cardiff, managing director of Morse's Automobile Company, told the court that FARMER showed him a business card of the Wholesale Fittings Company (Limited), Bristol, and ordered a two-seater on behalf of his company. He was told that the car would be released when the cheque was received, but he was lent a car in the meantime.   Some days later FARMER produced a letter, which he doubled up, and the witness read a sentence which ran "Regarding the car, there will probably be a dely of a day or two before the cheque is forwarded." The letter convinced witness, and he made out a receiving paper for the car, which FARMER signed on behalf of the Wholesale Fittings Company, and took the car away. As the cheque did not arrive witness wrote to the Wholesale Fittings Company, and, later, saw the managing director when as a result of what he said, a warrant was applied for.   The case was dismissed as stated. TAKEN FROM A PAGE ADVERTISING PENARTH SHOPPING CENTRES. Your Christmas Turkey- W. H. HILL, Poultry Dealer-17, Windsor Rd., Penarth. "The Royal Pharmacy"- HENRY A. HOBBS, Ph.C., M.P.S.,  F.S.M.C.                            (Royal Buildings, Penarth)., HINTON & SONS- Purveyors of Best Quality Meat. 7 & 9 Windsor Road, Penarth. Selection of Fancy Cakes and Pastries for the CHILDREN'S PARTY.  A. J. HOLTOM, Plymouth Rd., Penarth. W. H. COLLENS & Co. Merchants & Decorators. 33, WINDSOR ROAD, PENARTH.     Sole proprietor A. J. C. WHITE. BON MARCHE-Christmas Bazaar-Windsor Road.-(GEO. F. MEREDITH).  J. S. WALL- Pastrycook and Confectioner. 32, Windsor Road, Penarth. YOUR CHRISTMAS DINNER-AND AFTER!(CHARLES BARROW & SON).     101, Glebe Street, Penarth. High Class FOOTWEAR.- EDGAR WARD, 111, Glebe Street, Penarth. SLIPPERS for YOUR KIDDIES'- GEORGE OLIVER, 103, Glebe Street, Penarth. DEVERALL & PAWLEY, Ltd. Windsor Road and Royal Buildings, Penarth. John Patrick

You might mean 'Capel-Y-Porth' which was situ on Porth Street, Porth. The chapel, Welsh Independent/Congregational, was located next to the Police Sation. It was demolished many years ago and there is now just a empty space. Take a look at my website www.pillars-of-faith.com and you will see a photograph of the chapel as it was in its prime. As Jill states, there are other chapels in Porth and most of them still stand today in one form or another. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Evelyn Clarke" <evelynclarke361@btinternet.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:51 PM Subject: [GLA] Porth Chapel, Rhondda > Hello > > Does anybody have a picture of this Chapel and is it still a place of > worship - I visited Porth recently but couldnt find it ! > > Many thanks > > Evelyn > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Evelyn, I presume that you have a document or someone has told you that they married or etc., at Porth Chapel? This is most probably Cymmer Chapel, Porth. Strangely I have not added this chapel to my Welsh Chapels website, but I would think that this is the chapel you mean. The chapel has now closed. http://www.muirfamily-genealogy-online.co.uk/jones/chapels-church/index.htm My best wishes, Jill Photographs of Welsh Chapels and Churches http://www.welshchapelsandchurches.org/ Hello Does anybody have a picture of this Chapel and is it still a place of worship - I visited Porth recently but couldnt find it ! Many thanks Evelyn -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Evelyn Clarke Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 5:51 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Porth Chapel, Rhondda Hello Does anybody have a picture of this Chapel and is it still a place of worship - I visited Porth recently but couldnt find it ! Many thanks Evelyn -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Does anybody have a picture of this Chapel and is it still a place of worship - I visited Porth recently but couldnt find it ! Many thanks Evelyn

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 10.  1926.  No. 317. RECENT WILLS. MR. H. JONES, MONTGOMERY, LEAVES £7,699. Mr. Henry JONES, of Ael-y-Bryn, Montgomery, who died on July 29, left estate of the gross value of £7,699, with net personalty £5,417. Probate of the will dated June 25, 1911, has been granted to his widow, Mrs. Mary Elizabeth JONES, and Mr. John Henry FOX, of Marston, Market Harborough, farmer. Testator left £500 to his wife for life, with remainder to his children or their issue as she may appoint, then to his children or their issue in equal shares, £500 in trust for his daughter Ada Bertha JONES for life. £500 each to his daughters Gertrude Maud JONES, and Mabel Florence JONES, £500 in trust for his daughter Ethel May, his real estate in the borough of Montgomery to his wife for life, with remainder to his daughters Gertrude and Ethel, and the residue of the property to his sons Frederick Henry, Bertram Corbett, Ernest Aubrey, Walter Harold, and Alexander Holford, his sons Ernest and Frederick to bring into account certain sums slready advanced to them respectively. MRS. DOWNING, LLANISHEN.   Mrs. Alice Grace DOWNING, of Beverley, Llanishen, who died on February 7, wife of Mr. George Cottrill DOWNING, left estate of the gross value of £6,614, with net personalty £6,567. By her will dated November 24, 1925, she appointed no executor thereof, and administration of the property has now been granted to her sons. Mr. Ivor Vincent DOWNING, of Tynewydd, Dinas Powis, and Mr. Harold DOWNING of Beverley, solicitors. Testatrix left her interest in the Malvern leasehold property to her sister Gertrude Cottrill Fletcher WHITEHOUSE for life, with remainder to her daughters-in-law Edie and Eve DOWNING, her diamond necklace to her daughter-in-law Edie DOWNING, and the residue of the property to her sons Ivor and Harold and her grandson Peter Davy DOWNING. MR. W. ROBERTS, BRITON FERRY.   Mr. William ROBERTS, of Dulais House, Court Sart, Briton Ferry, foreman mechanic who died on October 21, left estate of the gross value of £2,238, with net personalty £2,205. Probate of the will, dated October 2, 1925, has been granted to his son, Mr. William John ROBERTS, of Vine Villa, Brecon-road, Pontardawe, mechanical engineer. Testator left his estate to his wife for life, and subject to her interest he left his premises , 4, Holly-street, Pontardawe, and £250. Five-and-a-Half per Cent Treasury Bonds, and £350 Five Per Cent. War Stock to his son , Mr. William John ROBERTS, £500 National War Savings Certificates and £250 Four-and-a-Half per Cent. Treasury Bonds to his daughter Edith EVANS, his residence to his daughter Anne GRIFFITHS, certain stocks to his grandchildren William Hubert ROBERTS, Lewis ROBERTS, Douglas ROBERTS, Arthur ROBERTS, and John Frederick ROBERTS, and the residue of the property to his three children. MASONIC TRIBUTE.-Gift To Ex-Alderman J. MORGAN At Merthyr.   Ex-Alderman John MORGAN was honoured at the Masonic Temple, Merthyr, on Thursday with the gift of a portrait in oils of himself from the Fforest Lodge (Treharris) of Freemasons, for whom he has acted as secretary during the past fourteen years.   The painting, which his from the brush of the well-known Welsh artist, Mr. Carey MORRIS, was presented ex-Alderman MORGAN by Mr. D. J. JONES, P.A.G.D.C. (Deputy-Provincial Grand Master), to mark the recipient's attainment of the distinction of Past Assistant Grand Director of Ceremonies of the United Grand Lodge of England.   Gifts of two replica's of his portrait were made by ex-Alderman MORGAN for display at Merthyr and Treharris Masonic Temples.   Ex-Alderman JOHN MORGAN holds a unique Masonic record. Initiated in the Loyal Cambrian Lodge by the late Col. D. R. LEWIS in 1890, he was installed Worshipful Master in 1900. Since then he has held 22 principal chairs. He is the founder of 25 lodges and a member of over 50. He has received the Ancient and Accepted Rite (33 degrees) and the ninth degree of the Societas Rosicruciana. In the Supreme Grand Chapter of Holy Royal Arch Masons he holds the brevet rank of Past Grand Standard Bearer, and the distinction of Past Grand Deacon in the Grand Lodge of Mark Masons of England and Wales.   He is also a patron of the Royal Masonic Benevolent Institution and of the Masonic Benevolent Fund of the Eastern Division of South Wales, and a vice-patron of the Masonic institutions for boys and girls.   Ex-Alderman MORGAN became a joining member of the Fforest Lodge in 1909, and after passing through the offices of Director of Ceremonies and Senior Warden, was installed Worshipful Master for 1912-13. The following year he deputised for his successor Col. C. RICHARDSON-WHITE, D.S.O., who had meanwhile embarked on war service. He further took over the lodge secretaryship.   Mr. John S. STANFIELD, S.W., was installed Worshipful Master at Thursday's function in succession to Mr. Sydney G. COLLIS. KILLED BY GRAB.-Fatal Accident In Fog At Newport. A verdict of "Accidental death" was recorded at an inquest at Newport on John William SELF (53), 56, Cyril-street, Newport, coal plant foreman, employed at the Newport Power Station, who was killed when struck by a grab on Tuesday.   Mr. A. FOTHERINGHAM was present as H.M. Inspector of Factories: Mr. W. G. MENHENNICK (from the office of Mr. Thomas JOHN, Cardiff) represented the corporation, and Mr. H. NEWMAN, Blaenavon (National Union of Enginemen, Firemen,&c.) was for the relatives.   Dr. John Francis NICHOLSON stated that the cause of death was a rupture of the heart.   Henry CARDELL, Dolphin-street, Newport, crane-driver, said that early on Tuesday morning fog greatly interfered with vision.   SELF apparently put out his hand to steady the grab, which appeared to strike him in the chest, and he was knocked against a wall.   Stephen George JAMES, leading stoker, stated that the grab came out of the ashpit with a big swing, and its movement towards the power house wall must have been totally unexpected by SELF. John Patrick.

The 'Cambrian' of 19th October 1860 contains several items from the 'Glamorgan Sessions' which seem to have taken place sometimes in Cardiff, sometimes in Swansea. Only items in Glamorgan Assizes referring toe West Glamorgan are normally extracted to the Index, but it is possible that there is an account in the 'Cambrian' of any interesting cases from Cardiff, Merthyr etc which were tried there. However it appears that the April and October Quarter Sessions were held in Swansea in 1860, January and July presumably being in Cardiff, and the October sessions started on 16th October. If I can I will have a look at the court report on 19th October 1860 and the following week to see if it is mentioned. My guess is that the justices concluded that the case against her was flawed or fabricated, and not only discharged her but also wanted the fact of her discharge made public. Magistrates discharged prisoners if their accusers failed to appear, or if they judged that the case should not have been brought, as far as I can tell. A search of the 'Cambrian' on Discharged Proclamation, all words yields 16 examples, from 1823 to 1841, all, as far as I can tell, at County Sessions or Assizes, rather than lower courts, and several where theft was alleged. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Alun Chick" <robertalunchick@aol.co.uk> To: <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:26 AM Subject: [GLA] Criminal Registers,DISCHARGED BY PROCLAMATION (PRICE MCJENNETT) > > England & Wales, Criminal Registers. > Name: SUSANNAH PRICE Otherwise [SUSANNAH MCJENNETT] > Date of Trial: 18 Oct 1860 > Trial Year: 1860 > Location of Trial: Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales > Sentence: Acquittal > Crime: Larceny > It then states under acquitted and discharged: DISCHARGED BY PROCLAMATION. > I have googled a “little” but what exactly does it mean? And why would it > be used? > I have Cardiff McJennett Family in my tree…..However I cannot fit Susannah > in …where could I find more info eg Her age at trial?…marriage to a PRICE > or McJENNETT if one did take place ? > ANYTHING CONSIDERED…..Thank You. > > > > Robert Alun Chick (Penarth) > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Robert Discharged by proclamation means .. no evidence presented against the accused, or no witnesses able to testify against the accused. Sometimes shown as "no true bill".  Jen

England & Wales, Criminal Registers. Name: SUSANNAH PRICE Otherwise [SUSANNAH MCJENNETT] Date of Trial: 18 Oct 1860 Trial Year: 1860 Location of Trial: Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales Sentence: Acquittal Crime: Larceny It then states under acquitted and discharged: DISCHARGED BY PROCLAMATION. I have googled a “little” but what exactly does it mean? And why would it be used? I have Cardiff McJennett Family in my tree…..However I cannot fit Susannah in …where could I find more info eg Her age at trial?…marriage to a PRICE or McJENNETT if one did take place ? ANYTHING CONSIDERED…..Thank You. Robert Alun Chick (Penarth)

There should be a location for all donated items, perhaps their destination can be published ----- Original Message ----- From: "lewis carter" <llewis.carter@ntlworld.com> To: <WLawday@aol.com> Cc: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] BARRY HISTORY > Wendy > I too visited the 'Living History' project at the Memo, and found quite a > few things relating to my past. But as you say what happened to it all, is > there anyone from Axis that can put light on the subject??. > Barry and the Vale have been screaming out for years for some sort of > museum. But for some unknown reasons of their own,the councils ( both ) > have > not listened. > The area is so rich in history it's sad to see it being ignored. > (sorry to rant .I've had my say, that's it, thank you.) > > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of WLawday@aol.com > Sent: 24 April 2011 09:34 > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLA] BARRY HISTORY > > Today's posting by Martin re. AXIS reminded me that I donated my late > mother's Barry mementoes to the short-lived 'Living History' project while > it > was located at the Memorial Hall. The last time I enquired as to what > had > happened to the items they had collected, I was told they were all stored > 'somewhere in the Valleys', presumably never to be seen by anyone > interested > in them. > > I still fee quite upset about this, as the items included a couple of > things Mum had kept since girlhood, and a list of names from a collection > fund > on behalf of soldiers WW2, which my gt. aunt had been connected with.. At > the time I thought I was 'doing the right thing' by donating them, and I > hope that AXIS might be able to retrieve them, along with the rest of the > collection. > > WENDY > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 10.  1926.   No. 316. FUNERAL OF MRS. BUTLER, BURRY PORT.   The funeral took place at Burry Port of Mrs. BUTLER, widow of the late Mr. James BUTLER, New-street, Burry Port. Mrs BUTLER belonged to one of the oldest families in the district.   The following clergy officiated: Dr. Caleb HUGHES (vicar of Pembrey), Rev. H. HOWELL (vicar of Llandilo'rfan, Brecon), Rev. J. WILLIAMS (vicar of Llangendeirne), and the Rev.J. B. THOMAS (curate of St. Mary's, Church, Burry Port).  The chief mourners were: Mr. and Mrs. Hugh BUTLER (Pontypridd), son and daughter-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. James J. BUTLER (Treorky), son and daughter-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. WHEELER (Burry Port), daughter and son-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. John BUTLER (Burry Port), son and daughter-in-law; Mr. Tom BUTLER (Burry Port), son; Mr. and Mrs. William BUTLER (Burry Port) son and daughter-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. David BUTLER (Pembrey) son and daughter-in-law; Mr. and Mrs. J. MORRIS (Narberth), son-in-law and daughter; Mr. and Mrs. Fred JONES, son-in-law and daughter; Mr. Moore BUTLER (Treorky), grandson; Miss Gwenda WHEELER (Burry Port), grandaughter; Rev. Hugh THOMAS (Ogmore), brother; Dr. David THOMAS (Ogmore), nephew; Rev. H. HOWELL (Brecon), cousin; Mr. W. THOMAS (Pembrey), brother; Miss Mary BUTLER (Treorky), grandaughter; Mr. William BUTLER (Aberkenfig), brother-in-law; and Mr. and Mrs. Fred BUTLER Aberkenfig), brother-in-law. MR. G. SIMS, ABERTRIDWR.    The death has taken place of George SIMS (22), son of Mr. and Mrs. George SIMS, Abertridwr. He was a capable euphonium player and a member of the Windsor Colliery Silver Band, Abertridwr, and the South Wales and Monmouthshire Brass Band Association. MR. R. FRASER, PONTARDULAIS.   The death has taken place of one of the best-known Pontardulais inhabitants in the person of Mr. Robert (Bob) FRASER, Thorndale, Swansea-road. He was 81 years of age. He worked for years at the Hendy Tin-plate Works, from where he left to join the post-office staff and worked at Llanedy and Llanon district for over 30 years until his retirement on pension. He was a Conservative, and served as sexton both at St. Teilo's Welsh Parish Church and St. Michael and All Angels, for a great many tears. His only son is Mr. John FRASER, headmaster of Council Schools at Ferndale. MR. RHYS ABRAHAMS, MERTHYR.   The death as occurred at the age of 80 years of a well-known Merthyr resident. Mr. Rhys ABRAHAMS, Abermorlais-terrace, formerly treasurer of the Salem Welsh Congregational Church, Heolgerrig. He is survived by two daughters Mrs. Gwen LEWIS, and Mrs. DAVIES. MR. H. THOMAS, NELSON.   The death occurred at Nelson on Thursday of Mr. Henry THOMAS, Berthgron Farm. Mr. THOMAS, who was 73 years old, was the son of the late Mr. and Mrs. David THOMAS, Nelson, and was one of the best known farmers in South Wales. For a number of years he had been church-warden at St. John's and prior to that at Llanfabon Parish Church. He was prominently identified with the Llanfabon and Gelligaer branch of the Farmer's Union. He leaves one son, Mr. David THOMAS, Hendai Farm, Gelligaer; and three daughters. Mrs. Edith EDWARDS, widow of Capt. Josiah EDWARDS, Aberdare, Mrs. Mattie SIMONS, wife of the Rev. L. C. SIMONS, M.A. Vicar of Treherbert, and Miss Forrie THOMAS. CARDIFF MAYORS YULETIDE FUND. -(some more names and addresses). Mr. Chas. E. DOVEY, Ainsdale, 39, Cathedral-road, Cardiff.  £5.5.0. Mr. W. I. BANBURY, Tydraw-road. £5.5.0. Mr. and Mrs. Thomas JONES, 8, The Avenue, Llandaff.£5.0.0. Mr. W. E. THOMAS, Merivale, Newport-road. £2.2.0. Mr. Morgan CROWTHER, Ascot House, Lansdowne-road, Cardiff. £2.2.0. Mr. and Mrs. S. Alwyn SMITH, 80, Cathedral-road. £2.2.0. Mr. and Mrs. T. H. WEDLAKE, Brynmor, Penylan.  £2.2.0. Mr. J. HOWARD-JONES, 24, Cathedral-street. £2.2.0. Mr. W. A . PHILLIPS, J.P., and Mrs. PHILLIPS, Redbroke, Caerphilly. £2.2.0. Dr. Howell REES, J.P.,Glyndwr, 190, Newport-road. £2.2.0. John Patrick

TE1WESTERN MAIL FRIDAY DECEMBER 10. 1926.   No. 315. BARRY FRAUD CHARGE.   Thomas FREITH, a retail draper, of 284, Holton-road was remanded in custody till to-day (Friday) at a special police-court at Barry on Thursday on a charge of obtaining by false pretences, with intent to defraud, two artificial silk dresses, value 15s.6d., belonging to James FUTTER, of Pembroke-terrace, Cardiff. DOCTOR'S UNPAID RATE-Protest In Court At Caerleon.   Dr. John McGINN, Caerleon, summoned by the local police-court on Thursday for the non-payment of £9.6s.8d. poor rate, said, "The overseer ought to collect the rate and not send arbitery demands."    The Chairman (Mr. A. M. PILLINER): You don't want him to come and sit on your doorstep until he gets the rate.   Dr. McGINN: No, not quite that. I want a little time, but he seems to sit on his stool of repentance for the money to be brought to him.I can't spend three half-pence on a stamp to send it to him.   The Chairman: We must leave you to the tender mercies of the overseers. All we can do is issue a distress warrant. WELSH WEDDING. THOMAS -THOMAS. The wedding took place on Thursday at St. Catherine's Church, Pontypridd, of Charles Ivor THOMAS, only son of the late Mr. and Mrs. Charles THOMAS, of Bryn Awel, Neath, and Miss Doris Alexina Harris THOMAS, second daughter of Mr. and Mrs. B. R. THOMAS, of Maes yr Awel, Pontyridd.   The Rev. Parry PRYCE, M.A. (vicar of Pontypridd), officiated, Mr. GRAINGER, the church organist at the organ. The bride carried a shower bouquet of red roses, and looked charming in a dress of ivory georgette and lace, with a tulle veil ornamented with orange blossom and pearls. Her sister, Miss Mabel Eileen THOMAS was bridemaid. A contemporary of the bridegroom in France, Capt. Frederic EVANS, M.B.E., M.A. (Reserve of Officers), acted as best man, and the bride's brother, Mr. Alfred  W. THOMAS, as groomsman. The honeymoon is to be spent in London. TOO LAZY TO WORK. Neath Labourer Sent To Prison. John WILLIAMS, a labourer of Neath was at Neath on Thursday sentenced to a months' imprisonment, suspended so long as he paid 5s. a week towards the maintenance of his three children at the Cottage Homes. Warrant-Officer John WILLIAMS said that the defendant owed £190 to the guardians. A month ago he promised 3s. a week, but had only paid 8s. His unemployment pay had been stopped because he was to lazy to work. He admitted singing on the streets to get food. He was not lazy but had lost the use of his left arm through war service. FUNERAL OF MR. T. PRICE, CARDIFF.   The funeral took place on Thursday of Mr. T. PRICE, who died at the home of his sister. Mrs. Tom JONES, of Machen-place, Cardiff.    There was a representative gathering of mourners. The services at the house and at the graveside were conducted by the Rev. T. Pryce HAINES, pastor of Wood-street, Congregational Church. MR. ISAAC GRIFFITHS, CLYDACH VALE.   Mr. Isaac GRIFFITHS, of 53, Wern-street, Clydach Vale, retired grocer, a prominent worker in the Welsh Calvanistic Methodist cause, who died on August 17, inestate, aged 78 years, left estate of the gross value of £2,055. with net personalty £1,447. Letters of administration of the property have been granted to his widow. Mrs. Catherine GRIFFITHS, and his son. Mr. Edward GRIFFITHS, of 1, Maddox-street, Blaenclydach. (Architect.) John Patrick.