WESTERN MAIL MONDAY DECEMBER 13, 1926.   No. 327. ILL-FATED FAMILY OF JEFFREYSTON-Six Members Killed In Pit Accidents. News of the death of a Pembrokeshire man in America in an unusual colliery accident has just been received. Mr. John ALLEN, a native of Jeffreyston, was manager of the Scott Colliery of the Susquehanna Colliery Company, at Kulmont, Mount Carmel. He was descending a shaft of the colliery in the cage with another man, when a sudden jar caused them both to be thrown to the floor of the cage. Mr. ALLEN struck his head against an iron bar and sustained a fractured skull, dying immediately.    The ALLENS are an ill-fated family. William ALLEN, the father, met his death as the result of an accident at a small colliery at Jeffreyston:a brother of John ALLEN lost his life in the colliery at Mount Carmel:his eldest son and an uncle were killed at Merixton Bottom Colliery: and another uncle was killed at another American Colliery. GASSED IN HIS HOME? Treorky Sportsman's Tragic Fate. William JENKINS, of 62, Stuart-street, Treorky, has been found gassed at his home.   He was employed as a storekeeper at the Abergorkey Colliery, and was a notable sportsman in the Upper Rhondda. He was an ex-secretary to the Treorky Rugby Football Club. He was also a member and captain of the Pentre Lawn Tennis Club, where he was very popular. YSTRADGYNLAIS CHILD KILLED.   The six-year-old daughter of Mr. and Mrs. V. L. PHILLIPS, Brecon-road, Ystradgynlais, was run over and killed on Saturday evening by a motor-car owned and driven by Mr. Edwin MORGAN, Abercrave, Valley.    The child ran out from an alley and in front of the car. An inquest will be held. PONTNEWNYNDD CRIPPLE INJURED.   George THOMAS (75), of Pontnewnyndd, a cripple, and former roadman at Abersychan, was admitted to the Pontypool Hospital on Saturday night suffering from severe shock after being knocked down in Snatchwood-road, Abersychan, by a motor-car driven by William Daniel HYDE, a motor mechanic in the employ of the Western Valley 'Bus Service, who was driving a party home from a football match at Talywain. BARN DISCOVERY.-Pontypool Farmer Dead Besides His Gun.   William Edgar DAVIES (59), farmer, of Gaytrey House Farm, near Pontypool, was found on Saturday afternoon shot dead in a barn attached to the farm.   It is stated that a piece of string was tied to the trigger of a gun, and DAVIES appeard to have discharged it with his foot.   It is also stated that he was depressed at the prospect of leaving the farm in Februray next. NEWPORT LABOURER'S COLLAPSE. James CANNON, a labourer, of Llanarth-street, Newport, who collapsed while walking in Griffin-street, Newport, on Saturday died shortly after admission to Woolaston House without regaining consciousness. NEWPORT CANAL DISCOVERY.   A body recovered from the Monmouthshire Canal, near Alteryn Brickworks, Newport, on Saturday evening has been identified as that of David DAVIES (56), of no fixed abode, a labourer, beleived to be formerly of Dowlais. CARDIFF BABY'S FALL.   Minnie HEATH, aged six months, of Crichton-street, was being nursed when she fell out of the girl's arms. She was taken to the Cardiff Royal Infirmary with a fractured skull. On Monday morning her condition was stated to be fairly serious. BOUTS AT TONYPANDY-Kid SHEPPARD Outpoints Young Freddy WELSH.   Kid SHEPPARD (Ferndale) and Young Freddy WELSH (Pontypridd) met for the fifth time at the Square Pavilion, Tonypandy, on Saturday. SHEPPARD being declared the winner after a stirring contest, in which hard blows were freely exchanged. The pace was fast and the boxing exhilarating. SHEPPARD punished WELSH with lefts and rights, but himself took some heavy body blows.   Young Snowball (Clydach Vale) was handicapped in height, weight, and reach against Edfdie COOK (Cwmparc) in a six-round bout, but he fought with plenty of spirit and gained a draw.   Young WILLIAMS (Dinas) was defeated by Young JOSEPH (Williamston) on points over six rounds. CONTESTS AT BRIDGEND. At the Pavilion, Bridgend, on Saturday Dick HARRY (Pontardawe) and Billy NOBLE (Kenfig Hill)-the latter substituting for Tom Dai REES (Dowlais)-met un the chief bout. The verdict was a draw. Jim OLD (Panygraig) lost to Dai PARRY (Gilfach) on points over ten rounds. Billy WATKINS (Pontyclun) defeated Johnny RUSHTON (Clydach) on points over four rounds. John Patrick.

Hello Andy Bridgend Reference Library has a number of newspapers on film, you may try them. Or you could try the Library at Treorchy Gareth --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Andy Philpin <andrewphilpin@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: Hello, I have just discovered that one of my relatives died falling down steps in Porth in 1930. Margaret Griffiths was the lady's name and she was 68. Can someone please direct me to where I can get a copy of the Coroner's report or which paper to look in for Porth. I would like to thank anyone who could help. Regards, Andy

Thank you to every one who has assisted in identifying and translating the given place names. I am now able to conclude that I am on the right track. Again, thank you. David

I've now moved north to AGY in my extractions, I think this one below gives an interesting slant on competition between the established church and non-conformists. It is a fact that the 30 March numbers for this church were roughly halved against the average. The figures are incomplete but the main beneficiary may have been the local Calvinistic Methodist chapel which had 300 in the morning and 600 in the evening. I wonder how they were 'induced' ? * Amlwch Parish Church (Diocese of Bangor) Rebuilt in 1796 in place of the old one Attendance - (average) morning 130 + 39 scholars, afternoon 54 + 20 scholars, evening 180 + 16 scholars "The estimated number of attendants March 30 1851 was considerably below the usual average as the people were induced by the Dissenters to go on that day to the different chapels. I took no step to fill my Church on that day" Morris Williams, Perpetual Curate Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

I have another name to my tree, Annie JOSHUA b:1854 Monmouthshire. Annie married Edwin BEVAN 1874 in Monmouthshire. They did live in Glamorgan in 1876, then onto Castleford Yorkshire 1878, Durham in 1880. They show up in Ohio US. Edwin was a coal miner. Anyone interested in this family I would love to hear from you. regards, Bryn Brynda Ashton-Jones London, Ontario Canada

On 05/05/2011 14:53, D G Bowen Bowen wrote: > Hello all, > > i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. > > I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. > > the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. > > Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. > > I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. > > One other important point is that my Father& his Brother were at the funeral, > > I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. > > If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. > > > > > DGB > Further to my earlier guess, FreeBMD shows two mrriages for Ada Bowen - first one between Ada M Bowen in the December qtr of 1937 to one John F Hughes and the second one between Ada Bowen and one Thomas G Bailyes in the March qtr of 1942. -- Cheers Peter

> The children may of course have been born much earlier than 1936, making them older than 75yrs and less likely to be alive today. Well I am here, alive and kicking still! ;-)) LOL Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 4:00 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com; dgbowen@live.co.uk Subject: Re: [GLA] find relatives. that i cannot ?? On 05/05/2011 14:53, D G Bowen Bowen wrote: > Hello all, > > i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. > > I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. > > the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. > > Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. > > I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. > > One other important point is that my Father& his Brother were at the funeral, > > I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. > > If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. > > > > > DGB > It may well be that the five children are now dead. The youngest could have been born around 1936, making him or her 75 yrs old now. The children may of course have been born much earlier than 1936, making tham older than 75yrs and less likely to be alive today. It could be that your family knew little of the family as Ada may have been young enough to re-marry and lost contact with your relatives. So many options, it may help if you let us know the names of the children and any dates you may have. -- Cheers Peter -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On 05/05/2011 14:53, D G Bowen Bowen wrote: > Hello all, > > i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. > > I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. > > the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. > > Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. > > I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. > > One other important point is that my Father& his Brother were at the funeral, > > I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. > > If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. > > > > > DGB > OK, William J Bowen married Ada Walters in the March qtr of 1919 in the Pontypridd regisrtation district (Pontypridd 11a 836). FeeBMD shows 18 births to a Bowen where the spouse's maiden name was Walters. These range from Annie Bowen, born June qtr 1919 and Peter M Bowen born in the Sept qtr 1935. If you have the names of the five children then you may be able to find their births in FreeBMD and from there work out their likely ages and if they may still be alive. It looks hopeful that Willam and Ada appear to have remained in the Pontypridd district between their marriage in 1919 and Williams death in 1936 -- Cheers Peter

On 05/05/2011 14:53, D G Bowen Bowen wrote: > Hello all, > > i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. > > I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. > > the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. > > Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. > > I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. > > One other important point is that my Father& his Brother were at the funeral, > > I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. > > If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. > > > > > DGB > It may well be that the five children are now dead. The youngest could have been born around 1936, making him or her 75 yrs old now. The children may of course have been born much earlier than 1936, making tham older than 75yrs and less likely to be alive today. It could be that your family knew little of the family as Ada may have been young enough to re-marry and lost contact with your relatives. So many options, it may help if you let us know the names of the children and any dates you may have. -- Cheers Peter

Hello Andy, Try the Rhondda Leader, South Wales Gazette and the Western Mail. Often get slightly differing reports in different newspapers. Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Andy Philpin Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 3:29 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] (Porth) - Coroners Report Hello, I have just discovered that one of my relatives died falling down steps in Porth in 1930. Margaret Griffiths was the lady's name and she was 68. Can someone please direct me to where I can get a copy of the Coroner's report or which paper to look in for Porth. I would like to thank anyone who could help. Regards, Andy -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello D.G. [?] Can you give your father's name please and his date of birth and that also of his brother. Where they all born Pontypridd? I assume that the Wm John was your father's step brother? Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of D G Bowen Bowen Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2011 2:53 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] find relatives. that i cannot ?? Hello all, i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. One other important point is that my Father & his Brother were at the funeral, I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. DGB -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I have just discovered that one of my relatives died falling down steps in Porth in 1930. Margaret Griffiths was the lady's name and she was 68. Can someone please direct me to where I can get a copy of the Coroner's report or which paper to look in for Porth. I would like to thank anyone who could help. Regards, Andy

Hello all, i wonder if you can help someone who by my own admission, is pretty hopeless trying to find relatives. I have Birth Cert. of my step uncle, (William John Bowen Tredegar Arms Pontypridd) who died January 1936, also the funeral report from the Pontypridd Observer. the report states that he was married to a Ada Bowen (Walters), and they had one son, and four daughters. Where are they now, i find it so very difficult to understand that no mention of this side of my family has been made. I have spoken to my cousins, none of them has ever heard of this side of the family. One other important point is that my Father & his Brother were at the funeral, I can go on and on. I hope someone out there can shine some light on this for me. If not thank you very much for reading this E/Mail. best wishes to you all. DGB

I have just read back on this thread - to my interest because one of my ggs died at what is stated as Walnut Tree Bridge and I was actually there several years ago. It's always nice to add a bit of info:) Helen ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥The important thing in this world is not so much where we are but in what direction we are moving. > From: jill@shottle.plus.com > To: peter.thomas@nidum.plus.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 08:16:49 +0100 > Subject: Re: [GLA] Place names + Walnut Tree Bridge > > That was a badly phrased sentence of mine Peter. I was actually supporting > David's view and translation. > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter [mailto:peter.thomas@nidum.plus.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:09 PM > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com; jill@shottle.plus.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] Place names + Walnut Tree Bridge > > On 04/05/2011 20:50, Jill Muir wrote: > > Hmm why a French name in Wales? > > > > Best wishes, > > Jill > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > > Why a French name in England - Ashby-de-la-Zouche ? :-D > > > -- > Peter > Neath > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That was a badly phrased sentence of mine Peter. I was actually supporting David's view and translation. Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: Peter [mailto:peter.thomas@nidum.plus.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:09 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com; jill@shottle.plus.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Place names + Walnut Tree Bridge On 04/05/2011 20:50, Jill Muir wrote: > Hmm why a French name in Wales? > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > Why a French name in England - Ashby-de-la-Zouche ? :-D -- Peter Neath

Hi All, Thanks again for your help. It was a bit of a shot in the dark with this Caroline but so much did fit........not enough though. She married a Henderson and I know all the details there......her father ( adoptive) was Thomas Reed of Allandale, Hexham ....there is one there 1901 but too old. You never know I might get something via the workhouse.....I manged once before elsewhere. Im told she was born Oct 1901= 1902 as you can imagine that nearrows ir down to a few thousand! Many thanks all. Regards, Kevin.

My grandmother's sister Cecilia WILLIS nee DEERE died in childbirth 1902, aged 29, but she had one son EDWARD born c. 1897 in Llandaff. In 1911 he is to be found living with his father William WILLIS who had married his second wife Annie in June Quarter 1904 Cardiff. Edward was aged 14 and an ironmonger's errand boy.in, with a half sister Annie WILLIS aged 5 born Llandaff.. William WILLIS's 83 year old widowed mother was also living with them in 1911, born Ely, Cardiff The address given in the transcript was 5 Herbert Street, Maindy, Cardiff. In 1901 I have an address of 30 Maindy Herbert Street, Llandaff.. If the names ring any bells with anyone I would be pleased to know anything further on young Edward. Thanks for any info., WENDY

http://www.geiriadur.net/index.php?page=ateb&term=walnut&direction=ew&type=all&whichpart=exact David

On 04/05/2011 20:50, Jill Muir wrote: > Hmm why a French name in Wales? > > Best wishes, > Jill > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > Why a French name in England - Ashby-de-la-Zouche ? :-D -- Peter Neath

Hmm why a French name in Wales? Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Morgan Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 2:28 PM To: glamorgan-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Place names + Walnut Tree Bridge Hello David The obvious part of the placename is pont meaning bridge. Cyllan could be hazel (even the name of a person) and FIENGIG not too sure about. Hazelbridge, FIENGIG could be frengig for french Gareth --- On Wed, 4/5/11, defletchercg@aol.com <defletchercg@aol.com> wrote: Hi Everyone I have a birth certificate which shows the birth place as PONTYGYLLAN FIENGIG - I am not sure if there should be a space between the N and the F. The Registration District is Cardiff and the Sub-district is Caerphilly. The Census records indicate the birth place as EGLWYSILAN in Glamorgan. Can anyone identify these places and advise if they are one and the same place, Ponty... is a suburb or street in Egl.... or are they two completely places with no connection. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. David Fletcher -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message