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WESTERN MAIL TUESDAY DECEMBER 14. 1926.  No. 330. OBITUARIES. FUNERAL OF MR. H. THOMAS, NELSON.   The funeral of Mr. Henry THOMAS, Berthgron Farm, Nelson, took place on Monday at Llanfabon Churchyard. The officiating clergy were the Revs. Nathaniel REES (Llanfabon), T. Walter DAVIES, B.A. (Caerphilly), Hugh WILLIAMS, M.A. (Pentyrch), D. J. WATTS-LEWIS, M.A. (Tongwynlais), and Dewi JONES (Cardiff), all of whom had been associated with deceased in church work in the parish.   The mourners were Mr. and Mrs. D. H. THOMAS (son and daughter-in-law), Mrs. E. EDWARDS and Miss F. THOMAS (daughters), the Rev. L. C. SIMMONS, M.A., vicar of Treherbert, and Mrs. SIMMONS (son-in-law and daughter), Mr. W. THOMAS (brother), Dr. W. E. THOMAS J.P.(brother-in-law), and Mrs. PHILLIPS-JONES (sister-in-law). Amongst others present were Mr. E. EDWARDS, Dr. R. H. TERRY, Mr. D. NICHOLAS, Councillor A. HOPKINS, and Mr. W. H. REES. FUNERAL OF MR. E. LEWIS, DINAS POWIS.   The funeral of Mr. Edward LEWIS, Chapel-lane, Dinas Powis, took place at St. Andrew's Cemetery on Monday. The Revs. J. P. MILLWARD and Christmas J. LEWIS, B.A., Dinas Powis, officiated. The chief mourners were :-Messrs. A. and H. LEWIS (sons), Mr. and Mrs. SAMWAYS (son-in-law and daughter), and Mr. Walter LEWIS (nephew). Others present were; Messrs. J. VINCENT (Treorky), T. JOHN, H. BARRETT, E. DAVIES, F. MASON, W. SPEAR, S. SPEAR, F. JOHN, I. DAVIES and N. HALL. MRS. B. LEWIS, TREDEGAR.   The death has taken place at Tredegar of Mrs. Benjamin LEWIS, wife of the late Rev. Benjamin LEWIS, who was the pastor of the Presbyterian Church at Tenby, and before that pastor for many years of Bethesda Presbyterian Church, Ebbw Vale. Mrs. LEWIS was a native of Tredegar, where she spent the closing years of her life. She leaves two brothers Messrs. J. H. and W. H. DAVIES, and one sister, Mrs. J. L. ROBERTS, postmistress of James-street, Post-office, Tredegar. MR. J. DAVIES, FLEUR-DE-LYS. The death took place on Monday of Mr. John DAVIES, Coalhole, Fleur-de-Lys. Mr. DAVIES, who was in his eighty-second year, was born at Pengam, and had a very strenuous life, being actively interested in agriculture and farming up to about three months ago, when a severe illness compelled him to retire. He was founder of the firm of Messrs. John DAVIES and Sons, which is one of the largest of horse and cattle dealers in the country. He is survived by three sons. Mr. Herbert DAVIES, Mr. Ivor DAVIES, and Alderman Edgar DAVIES, J.P. a step-son. Mr. George ALDEN and a step-daughter. Miss ALDEN. The interment will take place at Ystradmynach. MR. BEN JOHN, J.P., CLYNDERWEN.   The death has occurred at Manorbedw, Clynderwen, of Mr. Ben JOHN, J.P. Mr. JOHN for many years took an active part in the public life of West Wales, having been a prominent member of the Whitland District Council and Narberth Board of Guardians, as well as the Carmarthenshire County Council. He was chairman of the last named body in 1921-1922, and an Alderman till failing health compelled him to retire two years ago. Mr. JOHN'S enthusiasm for agricultural co-operation was far famed, and he was founder of the Clynderwen and District Farmers' Association, one of the most successful and progressive societies in the country. Mr. JOHN was unmarried and is survived by a sister, Miss E. C. JOHN, Manorbedw. PENARTH MAN'S POST.   Out of a list of 250 applicants Mr. A. R. K. VAUGHAN, 29, Pembrokeshire-terrace, Penarth, has secured the post of assistant accountant to the Hemsworth Rural District Council. Mr. VAUGHAN, who is only 23 years of age, was a pupil of the Albert-road Boys' School, Penarth, and later at the Cardiff Technical College. During the past nine years he has served in the accounts' department of the Penarth Urban District Council. OUTSIDE HIS HOUSE.-Serious Accident At Cardiff. Mr. Bartram GREYSTONE, aged 62, of 31, Romilly-crescent, Cardiff, was knocked down by a motor-car just outside his house on Monday and was taken to the Cardiff Royal Infirmary, where it was ascertained that he had received a fractured skull, and his condition on Monday night was stated to be serious. CARDIFF CYCLIST INJURED.   As the result of the front fork of his machine snapping under him Samuel ATKINS, aged 20, of 15, Milford-street, Splott, Cardiff, received concussion, and was conveyed to the Cardiff Royal Infirmary, where he was detained. John Patrick.

From: susan ashton <suwziqu@yahoo.co.uk> To: "glamorgan@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011, 17:12 Subject: Re: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 202 - Prossers I to have Prosser's in my tree My great grandfather Thomas Prosser born Tredegar 1843 to Roger Prosser and Ann( Price).  Roger was born LLanfihangel Tal Y llyn I believe and Ann in Upper Chapel nr Merthyr Cynog. Thomas had two brothers, William and John and a sister Margaret. Thomas moved down to Pontypridd and married Hannah Williams in 1869.  They had eight children - Roger, Amy, Margaret (m William Masters), Jennet, William, Rosina (died at age 2yrs), Thomas and Mary Hannah (my grandmother).  Does this family link with any other Prosser's mentioned? Sue in Newark From: "glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com" <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011, 8:00 Subject: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 202 To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin Today's Topics:   1. Re: David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 (muriel)   2. Re: Prossers (Gene Hutson)   3. Re: Prossers (Phil) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 15:47:17 -0700 From: "muriel" <mcrowe@bluebell.ca> Subject: Re: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 To: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com>,    "'Glamorgan List'"     <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <E0BBCB58DA004D6F98CE1E87A77304EB@HomePC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hi Jill David is certainly elusive.  I found a David Owens age 6 in the 1891 census with parents and siblings. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac-bac/image/anc/1003_559147?exact_match=on&id=1003_559147&format=html&SearchInText_1=owens%2C+david&FormName=Ancestors+Simple+Search&Sources=genapp&soundex=on&ResultCount=15&sortLimit=1000&MaxDocs=-1 I didn't find a David or a Middleton Owen[s] at all in the 1901 or 1911 but did find Richard Owens and family in both.  Look in the website automated genealogy which covers both census  and you can look at the original pages in conjunction with the transcript. I'm not familiar with searching in New Brunswick or Quebec province but am willing to scrounge around if you want further help. Best regards Muriel Crowe in sunny [finally] British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: "'Glamorgan List'" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:45 AM Subject: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 > Hi Listers, > I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great > Uncle. His Attestation papers show: > > David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 > Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada > Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt > to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. > > That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as > my > aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. > > I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my > own! ;-)) > > Can anyone help find him please? > > Best wishes, > Jill > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 20:45:14 -0500 From: "Gene Hutson" <FishRus@Q.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Prossers To: "Susan Harvey" <pippyx@idnet.com>, <Glamorgan@RootsWeb.com> Message-ID: <CF053E94A5314FE4A027A2829A75E378@BigFish68701PC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";     reply-type=original Hello All,   I'm watching this thread with great interest, one of my Great Great Grandmothers was     Eliza Maria PROSSER b. abt 1859 at Mordiford, Hereford, her daughter, Rosa May CAFFULL     married in 1911 at Newport, Monmouthshire, Daniel James ARCHER.   Most of what I have learned so far is my line of PROSSERs came from Hereford, at least     back to 1755.   There used to be a PROSSER website that listed most lines of PROSSERS back to the early     beginnings. I lost track of that a LONG time ago and have not been able to find it since,     anyone familiar with it?? This would have been 10 years ago anyway.         Gene Hutson           Norfolk, Nebraska, USA           FishRus@Q.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harvey Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:23 PM To: Glamorgan Subject: [GLA] Prossers Hi, welcome I have Prossers who married into my Williamson line. Originallly 1881ish were Farmers in Abergafenny then landed up in LLantrisant ,not far from MERTHYR.and Pontypridd. Wll look up anything helpful. Moving house at the moment so there may be a lull---mail me if you think I have forgotten you. Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant Wales  uk -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 06:07:55 +0100 From: Phil <phil@w-f-t.co.uk> Subject: Re: [GLA] Prossers To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4DC8C82B.7030503@w-f-t.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Greetings, I am also watching this thread with interest. I have 22 Prossers in my family tree:- http://williamsfamilytree.co.uk/tree/search.php?mybool=AND&nr=50&showdeath=yes&showspouse=yes&mylastname=prosser&lnqualify=contains Regards, Phil Williams I to have Prosser's in my tree   My great grandfather Thomas Prosser born Tredegar 1843 to Roger Prosser and Ann( Price).  Roger was born LLanfihangel Tal Y llyn I believe and Ann in Upper Chapel nr Merthyr Cynog.   Thomas had two brothers, William and John and a sister Margaret.   Thomas moved down to Pontypridd and married Hannah Williams in 1869.  They had eight children - Roger, Amy, Margaret (m William Masters), Jennet, William, Rosina (died at age 2yrs), Thomas and Mary Hannah (my grandmother).    Does this family link with any other Prosser's mentioned?  Sue in Newark   ------------------------------ To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. 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John Patrick's last contribution mentioned the Rev. B. Ceitho Davies, who obviously got a write-up in the Welsh press when he got home. So I thought I'd check the Australian press, and, he got a mention there too! The Brisbane Courier, Monday 27 December 1926: "AUSTRALIA'S CURSE. CRAVING FOR SPORT. LONDON, December 24 "The Rev. Ceitho Davies has returned from a sojourn of three years in Australia for health reasons. He says that the churches in Australia are almost entirely governed by women, very few men participating in religious work. The country's curse is the craving for sport and horse racing mania, but there is little drunkenness. He is convinced that there is a tremendous future for Australia." Well, he was right on some points! Hwyl David Canberra On 10/05/2011, at 6:20, J GRIFFITHS wrote: > WESTERN MAIL TUESDAY DECEMBER 14. 1926. No. 329. > > > > WELSHMEN OVERSEAS.—Rev.Ceitho DAVIES Back From Australia. > > The Rev. B. Ceitho DAVIES, who has been on a health trip to > Australia, has > arrived at Tilbury. ... > John Patrick > > ================================

Well I may as well claim some Prossers too. My great-grandfather's younger sister married a PROSSER. Great- grandfather was David ROWLANDS (b 1854) and his sister was Mary (b 1856). Mary married Ebenezer PROSSER on 31 Mar 1873 in Pontypridd. This connects me (albeit rather indirectly) to a veritable tribe of PROSSERS, (wqell, about 35 to 40 of them), whose details have been set out by my third cousin once removed at the Hunt family site, here (for PROSSER enthusiasts to check!): http://www.huntfamily.fslife.co.uk/aqwg07.htm#290 If anyone sees any connections, I'd be interested, of course. Hwyl David Canberra

A bit late on this thread but I may as well claim some Prossers too. A 1st cousin 4 times removed. Keziah Jane Stephens 1870 Merthyr Tydfil married William Prosser c 1869 Aberdare in 1901 & 1911 they were at 17 Big Row, Cwmbach, Aberdare. Known children Maggie A Prosser c 1895 Jane Prosser c 1897 Mary Prosser c 1899 David Daniel Prosser c 1901 William James Prosser c 1903 Brinley Prosser c 1905 John Llewellyn Prosser c 1907 Idris Thomas Prosser c 1911 All born Aberdare. Regards David

I would like to thank people who have been really kind and searched census for me, with great results as my family are now found. Very many thanks to you for the help. Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jill Muir Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 9:45 AM To: 'Glamorgan List' Subject: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 Hi Listers, I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great Uncle. His Attestation papers show: David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as my aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my own! ;-)) Can anyone help find him please? Best wishes, Jill

Greetings, I am also watching this thread with interest. I have 22 Prossers in my family tree:- http://williamsfamilytree.co.uk/tree/search.php?mybool=AND&nr=50&showdeath=yes&showspouse=yes&mylastname=prosser&lnqualify=contains Regards, Phil Williams

Hi, welcome I have Prossers who married into my Williamson line. Originallly 1881ish were Farmers in Abergafenny then landed up in LLantrisant ,not far from MERTHYR.and Pontypridd. Wll look up anything helpful. Moving house at the moment so there may be a lull---mail me if you think I have forgotten you. Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant Wales uk

WESTERN MAIL TUESDAY DECEMBER 14. 1926.  No. 329. WELSH LADIES HOCKEY TEAM TO PLAY SOUTH AFRICA. The following team has been selected to represent Wales in the ladies hockey match against South Africa in January. Miss GOODE (Glamorgan), Miss M. ORSMAN (Glamorgan), and Miss GOODWIN (Flintshire); Miss G. WILLIAMS (Glamorgan), Miss LOCKLEY (Glamorgan), and Miss M.JAMES (Glamorgan); Miss C. DAVIES (Monmouth), Miss LUDLOW (Glamorgan), Miss E. HARRIS (Carnarvon), Miss N. DAVIES (Carnarvon), and Miss E. FOULKES-ROBERTS (Denbighshire). GIRL LODGERS' THEFT-Dress And Jumper From House At Newport. Elizabeth REED (19) of Pontypridd and Betty JENKINS (21), two neatly-dressed girls, pleaded guilty at Newport on Monday to theft of a dress, a silk jumper, and other articles of wearing apparel belonging to Kathleen AHEARN, of Dock-street, Newport.   It was stated that the two girls had surrended themselves at Cardiff when they heard there were warrants out for their arrest. They had lodged with AHEARN.   They were each fined 10s. MADE HIMSELF AT HOME.-Pontypool Man Enters A House Uninvited. An amazing case came before the Newport Police-court on Monday when James SWEENEY, of Pontypool, was charged with drunkeness in Bream-place, Newport last Saturday.   It was stated that SWEENEY was helplessly drunk. He walked into a house and sat by the fire. The woman occupier of the house was not at home, and a policeman removed the man before she returned. She told the constable that she would have been "frightened to death" had she found the man there.   Defendant was released on payment of costs. TWO MEN KILLED-Tragedy Of Pit Fall At Bryncoch. John PHILLIPS, 6, Rosser's-row, Neath Abbey, a married man, aged 52, with four children, a colliery repairer, and William WHITE, 14, Cecil-street, Neath, a married man, aged 38, a labourer, were killed at the New Wernddu Colliery, Bryncoch, near Neath, about 8.30 on Monday night, through a heavy fall of roof about eight tons in weight.   The men were completely buried and it took two-and-a-half hours to get them out. They were then dead, the injuries being broken legs and fractured skulls.   It appears that ten men, who were working at the level, had gone outside for food, and these two men and a boy returned before the rest, and the fall caught them about 200 yards from the opening of the level.   The boy saw the fall and ran back to inform the others that the men had been buried.   Dr. STEPHENS, of Neath, was in attendance. RECENT WILLS. REV. DAVID PHILLIPS, RADYR.   The Rev. David PHILLIPS, M.A., of The Rectory, Radyr, who died on October 24, aged 71 years, left estate of the gross value of £5,630, with net personalty £5,131. Probate of the will has been granted to his sons, Mr. John Leoline PHILLIPS, of Christ College, Brecon, and Mr. David Rupert PHILLIPS, of Greenway, Radyr, coal exporter, the surviving executors. His wife having died in his lifetime, testator left specific bequests to his children and grandchildren, and the residue of the property to his sons John Leoline, David Rupert, and Morgan Hector, or their children, in equal shares. MR. S. J. KING, NEWPORT.   Mr. Samuel James KING, of King's Lynn, 148, Caerleon-road, Newport, for many years chief collector and assessor of income-tax at Newport, who died on November 7, aged 69 years, left estate of the gross value of £506, with net personalty £284. Probate of the will has been granted to Mr. Vernon William WOODCOCK, of 30, Rugby-road, Newport, clerk. Mrs. Sarah Elizabeth ROBERTS, of The White Bear, Mancott, Hawarden, Flintshire, who died on September 12, a widow, left estate of the gross value of £5,720, with net personalty £5,334. WELSHMEN OVERSEAS.-Rev.Ceitho DAVIES Back From Australia. The Rev. B. Ceitho DAVIES, who has been on a health trip to Australia, has arrived at Tilbury. He has travelled 40,000 since leaving Wales three years ago.   Interviewed by a Western Mail correspondent, the Rev. B. Ceitho DAVIES said it was a pleasure to him to be able to take part in the great reception accorded his fellow-countrymen during their visits to Australia, notably Mr. T. J. REES, conductor of the famous Gwaun-cae-Gurwen Silver Band, who adjudicated at the Queensland band contests; Sir William DAVIES and Lady DAVIES, members of the Imperial Press Delegation, and Dr. J. T. WILLIAMS, M.P., a member of the British Parliamentary Deputation.   Cymric clans gave these friends a good time everywhere. There were very flourishing Cambrian societies at Melbourne, Ballarat, and Sebastopol (Victoria), Perth (Western Australia), and Brisbane and Blackstone (Queensland).   On St. David's Day the Rev. Ceitho DAVIES was honoured by being the guest of the Victoria and Melbourne Welsh Society, when he addressed a gathering of 2,000 Welshmen on "The Mission of Wales"; and again last year he attended the Brisbane Welsh Society's celebrations at the Albert Hall, and his address on "Why is the Welsh Nation United?" was broadcast throughout Australia by the Queensland Radio Service. A membership of 500 can be claimed by the Blackstone Wales Society, of which Mr. R. H. LEWIS, a native of Dinas, Rhondda Valley, is the president.   The Welsh people of Australia greatly appreciated the kind greetings sent them by the Gorsedd of the National Eisteddfod of Wales of which he was bearer. John Patrick

Hello All, I'm watching this thread with great interest, one of my Great Great Grandmothers was Eliza Maria PROSSER b. abt 1859 at Mordiford, Hereford, her daughter, Rosa May CAFFULL married in 1911 at Newport, Monmouthshire, Daniel James ARCHER. Most of what I have learned so far is my line of PROSSERs came from Hereford, at least back to 1755. There used to be a PROSSER website that listed most lines of PROSSERS back to the early beginnings. I lost track of that a LONG time ago and have not been able to find it since, anyone familiar with it?? This would have been 10 years ago anyway. Gene Hutson Norfolk, Nebraska, USA FishRus@Q.com -----Original Message----- From: Susan Harvey Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:23 PM To: Glamorgan Subject: [GLA] Prossers Hi, welcome I have Prossers who married into my Williamson line. Originallly 1881ish were Farmers in Abergafenny then landed up in LLantrisant ,not far from MERTHYR.and Pontypridd. Wll look up anything helpful. Moving house at the moment so there may be a lull---mail me if you think I have forgotten you. Cheers, Sue in LLantrisant Wales uk -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have recently joined this list, and I am interested in the Prosser family. Thomas Leonard Prosser was born Welshpool Montgomeryshire 1879. 1901 he was living in Hay, where he was married, and had 3 children, Thomas Leonard b 1904, Ada Elizabeth b 1906, b Hay and Job b 1909 b. Builth. On the 1911 census they are living at 1 Garth View Merthyr Tydfil. I have reason to believe that they moved into the Pontypridd area. I would be very interested to know if anyone else is researching this family. Many thanks Rosemary

Hi Doug, Yes that 's the great find I had! It is my own research uploaded by my 1st cousin! ;-)) That is why the dates are odd, as that is all I knew, until yesterday when I received his attestation papers. He was born in Cardiff. Best wishes, Jill http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: rdmnanst@aol.com [mailto:rdmnanst@aol.com] Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 2:40 PM To: jill@shottle.plus.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 Jill Ancestry.com has a David Middleton OWEN, born 1889 N.B. Canada, married to Adeline Maud RAYMOND in 1909 Penygraig Glamorgan, died after 1918, Hasting England. One child, and there is a picture of Maud if you are interested..... Regards Doug California, Missouri, USA -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: 'Glamorgan List' <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:45 am Subject: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 Hi Listers, I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great Uncle. His Attestation papers show: David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as my aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my own! ;-)) Can anyone help find him please? Best wishes, Jill -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html <http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Ewalesle/wal/AW.html> and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jill David is certainly elusive. I found a David Owens age 6 in the 1891 census with parents and siblings. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/lac-bac/image/anc/1003_559147?exact_match=on&id=1003_559147&format=html&SearchInText_1=owens%2C+david&FormName=Ancestors+Simple+Search&Sources=genapp&soundex=on&ResultCount=15&sortLimit=1000&MaxDocs=-1 I didn't find a David or a Middleton Owen[s] at all in the 1901 or 1911 but did find Richard Owens and family in both. Look in the website automated genealogy which covers both census and you can look at the original pages in conjunction with the transcript. I'm not familiar with searching in New Brunswick or Quebec province but am willing to scrounge around if you want further help. Best regards Muriel Crowe in sunny [finally] British Columbia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: "'Glamorgan List'" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 1:45 AM Subject: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 > Hi Listers, > I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great > Uncle. His Attestation papers show: > > David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 > Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada > Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt > to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. > > That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as > my > aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. > > I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my > own! ;-)) > > Can anyone help find him please? > > Best wishes, > Jill > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WESTERN MAIL TUESDAY DECEMBER 14. 1926.   No. 328. FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. IN MEMORIAM. THOMAS.- In Memory of my dear husband Will, late Fitter, Bettws, Blaengarw.- Remembered by his loving wife, Mabel THOMAS, and Children, Marion-street, Cardiff. MORGAN.- In Loving Memory of John, dearly-beloved husband of Hannah MORGAN, 12, Tyntaldwn-road, Troedyrhiw, who passed away December 14th. 1924. JOHNS.- In Loving Memory of my dear husband and father, John JOHNS, who died December 12th, 1925, at Ivy Bush Inn, Melynerythan, Neath.- Ever remembered by his loving Wife and Sons. GEORGE.- In Loving Memory of our darling Jessie, who passed away December 14th, 1925. Ever remembered by Mam, Sisters, Brothers. EVANS.- In Ever-loving Memory of Melita, who entered into rest December 14th, 1924.- Deeply mourned and sadly missed by Father, Mother, and sister Ina. DAVIES.- In Loving Memory of Elfed, who departed this life 14th December,1925.- Ever remembered by Maggie and Willie. DEATHS. WRIGHT.- On December 10th, at 24, Harrismith-road, Roath Park, William WRIGHT, Marine Surveyor, in his 60th year, the beloved husband of Jean WRIGHT. Funeral leaving residence Wednesday, 1.15 p.m.; G.O..- "Scotsman" please copy. THOMAS.- On December 9th at Bertgron, Nelson. Henry THOMAS. Interred on Monday at Llanfabon Churchyard. THOMAS.- December 10th, at 3, Railway-view Penrhiwfer. Edmund, the beloved husband of Sarah THOMAS, daughter of late Moses and  Gwenllian REES, late Glamorgan Hotel, Williamstown. Funeral Wednesday, two o'clock, for Trealaw Cemetery; G.O. SMITH.- On Saturday, December 11th, at 5, Cwmtillery, Abertillery. Councillor David SMITH, late Under-manager Cwmtillery and Rose Heyworth Collieries, in his seventy-seventh year (passed away peacefully) Funeral (G.O.) Wednesday, December 15th, at 2.30 p.m. prompt for Blaenau Gwent Cemetery. MORRIS.- On December 10th, at Glasfryn, Llandrindod Wells. Gwenllian, beloved wife of Morgan MORRIS, late of Rhondda Valley. Funeral Tuesday December 14th. at Two p.m. from the house. LOXTON.- On December 12th, at his residence 62, Richards-street. William our beloved father. Funeral Thursday, 3.15 p.m.; G.O. LEWIS.- On the 12th inst., at 48, Church-street, Tredegar. Mrs. Benjamin LEWIS, widow of the late Rev. Benjamin LEWIS, Tenby. Funeral Thursday at Tenby. Strictly private. JONES.- On December 13, at Commercial House, Llantwit Major. Margaret, dearly beloved wife of D. Iestyn JONES. Funeral Wednesday December 13, leaving house at 2.15 p.m. for Ebenezer, where short service will be conducted. Interment at Bethesda Bro; G.O.  N.F. JONES.- On December 12th, at 54, Gwaelodygarth, Merthyr, Harriet, beloved wife of Evan JONES. Funeral Thursday 1.45 p.m., Cefn Cemetery; G.O. John Patrick.

Hi Listers, I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great Uncle. His Attestation papers show: David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as my aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my own! ;-)) Can anyone help find him please? Best wishes, Jill

Jill Ancestry.com has a David Middleton OWEN, born 1889 N.B. Canada, married to Adeline Maud RAYMOND in 1909 Penygraig Glamorgan, died after 1918, Hasting England. One child, and there is a picture of Maud if you are interested..... Regards Doug California, Missouri, USA -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: 'Glamorgan List' <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 3:45 am Subject: [GLA] David Middleton Owen -1885-1929 Hi Listers, I am having problems with finding anything so far on this man, my Great Uncle. His Attestation papers show: David Middleton Owen born Cardiff, Wales, b 19th May 1885 Next of kin Richard Owen, address of Next of kin Minto, N.B, Canada Occupation Shoemaker - not married - served 3 years 62nd regt to serve in Canadian Ocer-Seas Expeditionary Force. That his family or some of them were in Canada is known by the family as my aunt received many gift parcels from them during the 2nd World war. I thought I had found a lot of detail of him on ancestry - but that was my own! ;-)) Can anyone help find him please? Best wishes, Jill -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message =

It is amazing what you find in strange places. This is from the Manor documents for the Manor of Usk Monmouthshire that I am currently transcribing and I thought it might be useful to others. I can complete if anyone is researching this family. 5 June 1746 To this Court came William RICHARDS of the City of Bristol Gent Son and Customary heir of William RICHARDS late of the Town of Swansey [Swansea] in the County of Glamorgan Gent' deceased in his own proper person, and Surrendered into the hands of the said Manor by acceptance of his said Deputy Steward All and Singular his Customary hold Messuages Lands tenements and hereditaments with their and every of their appurtenances Situate Lying and being in the parish of Langwn Ycha in the County of Monmouth within the Man'r aforesaid And the Revertion and Revertions Remainder and Remainders of all and Singular the said Customary hold Messuages Lands and tenements with the appurts To the use and behoof of Philip MORGAN of the Town of Usk in the County of Monmouth Gent' his heires.................................... Lyn in Oz.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/MON/Llangwm/index.html is about Llangwm Ucha parish See also http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~familyalbum/klangwms.htm where there are two MORGAN farmers. The Duke of Beaufort was Lord of the Manor, and also held/holds very significant land rights in the Swansea area. It is not obvious why a Swansea family should have held land in the Usk area, unless by inheritance. The Will of William Richards, Mercer of Swansea, Glamorgan Date 08 February 1731 is available online ( for a price) at the National Archives in the Records of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury which may well have meant that he owned property in more than one county, or in more than one diocese. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: <bristol_and_district@rootsweb.com>; <bristol_and_somerset@rootsweb.com>; "'Glamorgan List'" <Glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 10:01 PM Subject: [GLA] RICHARDS of Bristol, Swansea and Monmouth > It is amazing what you find in strange places. This is from the Manor > documents for the Manor of Usk Monmouthshire that I am currently > transcribing and I thought it might be useful to others. I can complete if > anyone is researching this family. > > 5 June 1746 > > To this Court came William RICHARDS of the City of Bristol Gent Son and > Customary heir of William RICHARDS late of the Town of Swansey [Swansea] > in > the County of Glamorgan Gent' deceased in his own proper person, and > Surrendered into the hands of the said Manor by acceptance of his said > Deputy Steward All and Singular his Customary hold Messuages Lands > tenements > and hereditaments with their and every of their appurtenances Situate > Lying > and being in the parish of Langwn Ycha in the County of Monmouth within > the > Man'r aforesaid And the Revertion and Revertions Remainder and Remainders > of > all and Singular the said Customary hold Messuages Lands and tenements > with > the appurts To the use and behoof of Philip MORGAN of the Town of Usk in > the > County of Monmouth Gent' his heires.................................... > > > > Lyn > > in Oz. > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It is probably just coincidence but I wondered if this Kid might be connected to your tree. --- On Sat, 7/5/11, glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 199 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 7 May, 2011, 8:00 To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin Today's Topics:    1. News Items October 1st to December 31st  1926.   No. 327       (J GRIFFITHS) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 18:11:39 +0100 (BST) From: J GRIFFITHS <griffiths780@btinternet.com> Subject: [GLA] News Items October 1st to December 31st  1926.   No.     327 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com, griffiths780@btinternet.com Cc: monmouthshire@rootsweb.com, dyfed@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <6412.55121.qm@web87014.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 WESTERN MAIL MONDAY DECEMBER 13, 1926.?? No. 327. ILL-FATED FAMILY OF JEFFREYSTON-Six Members Killed In Pit Accidents. News of the death of a Pembrokeshire man in America in an unusual colliery accident has just been received. Mr. John ALLEN, a native of Jeffreyston, was manager of the Scott Colliery of the Susquehanna Colliery Company, at Kulmont, Mount Carmel. He was descending a shaft of the colliery in the cage with another man, when a sudden jar caused them both to be thrown to the floor of the cage. Mr. ALLEN struck his head against an iron bar and sustained a fractured skull, dying immediately. ?? The ALLENS are an ill-fated family. William ALLEN, the father, met his death as the result of an accident at a small colliery at Jeffreyston:a brother of John ALLEN lost his life in the colliery at Mount Carmel:his eldest son and an uncle were killed at Merixton Bottom Colliery: and another uncle was killed at another American Colliery. GASSED IN HIS HOME? Treorky Sportsman's Tragic Fate. William JENKINS, of 62, Stuart-street, Treorky, has been found gassed at his home. ? He was employed as a storekeeper at the Abergorkey Colliery, and was a notable sportsman in the Upper Rhondda. He was an ex-secretary to the Treorky Rugby Football Club. He was also a member and captain of the Pentre Lawn Tennis Club, where he was very popular. YSTRADGYNLAIS CHILD KILLED. ? The six-year-old daughter of Mr. and Mrs. V. L. PHILLIPS, Brecon-road, Ystradgynlais, was run over and killed on Saturday evening by a motor-car owned and driven by Mr. Edwin MORGAN, Abercrave, Valley. ?? The child ran out from an alley and in front of the car. An inquest will be held. PONTNEWNYNDD CRIPPLE INJURED. ? George THOMAS (75), of Pontnewnyndd, a cripple, and former roadman at Abersychan, was admitted to the Pontypool Hospital on Saturday night suffering from severe shock after being knocked down in Snatchwood-road, Abersychan, by a motor-car driven by William Daniel HYDE, a motor mechanic in the employ of the Western Valley 'Bus Service, who was driving a party home from a football match at Talywain. BARN DISCOVERY.-Pontypool Farmer Dead Besides His Gun. ? William Edgar DAVIES (59), farmer, of Gaytrey House Farm, near Pontypool, was found on Saturday afternoon shot dead in a barn attached to the farm. ? It is stated that a piece of string was tied to the trigger of a gun, and DAVIES appeard to have discharged it with his foot. ? It is also stated that he was depressed at the prospect of leaving the farm in Februray next. NEWPORT LABOURER'S COLLAPSE. James CANNON, a labourer, of Llanarth-street, Newport, who collapsed while walking in Griffin-street, Newport, on Saturday died shortly after admission to Woolaston House without regaining consciousness. NEWPORT CANAL DISCOVERY. ? A body recovered from the Monmouthshire Canal, near Alteryn Brickworks, Newport, on Saturday evening has been identified as that of David DAVIES (56), of?no fixed abode, a labourer, beleived to be?formerly of?Dowlais. CARDIFF BABY'S FALL. ? Minnie HEATH, aged six months, of Crichton-street, was being nursed when she fell out of the girl's arms. She was taken to the Cardiff Royal Infirmary with a fractured skull. On Monday morning her condition was stated to be fairly serious. BOUTS AT TONYPANDY-Kid SHEPPARD Outpoints Young Freddy WELSH. ? Kid SHEPPARD (Ferndale) and Young Freddy WELSH (Pontypridd) met for the fifth time at the Square Pavilion, Tonypandy, on Saturday. SHEPPARD being declared the winner after a stirring contest, in which hard blows were freely exchanged. The pace was fast and the boxing exhilarating. SHEPPARD punished WELSH with lefts and rights, but himself took some heavy body blows. ? Young Snowball (Clydach Vale) was handicapped in height, weight, and reach against Edfdie COOK (Cwmparc) in a six-round bout, but he fought with plenty of spirit and gained a draw. ? Young WILLIAMS (Dinas) was defeated by Young JOSEPH (Williamston) on points over six rounds. CONTESTS AT BRIDGEND. At the Pavilion, Bridgend, on Saturday Dick HARRY (Pontardawe) and Billy NOBLE (Kenfig Hill)-the latter substituting for Tom Dai REES (Dowlais)-met un the chief bout. The verdict was a draw. Jim OLD (Panygraig) lost to Dai PARRY (Gilfach) on points over ten rounds. Billy WATKINS (Pontyclun) defeated Johnny RUSHTON (Clydach) on points over four rounds. John Patrick. ------------------------------ To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email to GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an email to GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 199 *****************************************