I would be grateful if someone could help me with a brick wall I have so far been unable to resolve. My great grandfather Phillip Davies lived with widow Jane Rosser (nee James) after the death of her husband David Rosser and they produced three Davies children. Phillip died in Jan 1890 aged 39 and I found five possibles born in the 1850's. I eliminated two as they appear in the 1891 census but I could not go any further. I now know that he was buried in St. John the Baptist Church in Dowlais on 7th January 1890 and was taken there from The Square, Rhymney where I know that he died. In the 1871 and 1881 Census there is a single Phillip Davies living with his mother in Well Street, Dowlais and if it can be confirmed St John the Baptist Church is near Well Street then I could reasonably assume that he is my great grandfather. Len Davies Sydney, Australia

Len, If you go to http://www.old-maps.co.uk and enter the coordinates 306524 207912 in to the search box that brings up a map of the town of Dowlais. Select the 1900 1:2500 map and St John's Church is clearly shown. A short distance south, one or two streets you will see Well Street. Trust this helps. It is no absolute proof since the Churchyard could be the common burial ground for the whole area. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Len Davies" <jpvldav@hotmail.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 2:59 AM Subject: [GLA] help with Dowlais map > > I would be grateful if someone could help me with a brick wall I have so > far been unable to resolve. > > My great grandfather Phillip Davies lived with widow Jane Rosser (nee > James) after the death of her husband David Rosser and they produced three > Davies children. Phillip died in Jan 1890 > aged 39 and I found five possibles born in the 1850's. I eliminated two > as they appear in the 1891 census but I could not go any further. I now > know that he was buried in St. John the Baptist Church in Dowlais on 7th > January 1890 and was taken there from The Square, Rhymney where I know > that he died. > > In the 1871 and 1881 Census there is a single Phillip Davies living with > his mother in Well Street, Dowlais and if it can be confirmed St John the > Baptist Church is near Well Street then I could reasonably assume that he > is my great grandfather. > > Len Davies > Sydney, Australia > > > > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Rosamond I had a look at the 1861 Census for the village of Pentyrch. Rock and Castle Inn no 10 on the Census list Cwmtelyn is no 12 on the Census Your Eleanor is living with her husband John at no 23 on the Census in the village of Pentyrch. If you have a look at GENUKI, then for Pentyrch you will get to the following link. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Pentyrch/ Then just search the Old Maps http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Pentyrch/#Maps Gareth --- On Sun, 29/5/11, rosamond.brown@verizon.net <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> wrote: I have a burial record from FreeREG for Eleanor Rowe, died 5 Apr 1866 in Whitchurch per the death certificate, buried 7 Apr. 1866 in Pentyrch.  The "Abode" is listed as Tir. .Ddig. Is anyone familiar with this "Abode" abbreviation?  Is it a town/hamlet/village and what is the proximity to Whitchurch or Pentyrch? Rose in Maryland, USA

sorry dull moment earlier, I am looking for any connections to the above family in the early 1900's Thanks Julie

Hi List I was wondering if anyone has any connection to the above family. Thanks Julie

I have a burial record from FreeREG for Eleanor Rowe, died 5 Apr 1866 in Whitchurch per the death certificate, buried 7 Apr. 1866 in Pentyrch. The "Abode" is listed as Tir. .Ddig. Is anyone familiar with this "Abode" abbreviation? Is it a town/hamlet/village and what is the proximity to Whitchurch or Pentyrch? Rose in Maryland, USA

Hi Jill, I opened this site and searched every county to try and find the death/burial of my g/g/grandfather Martin HOOLEY/Hooly/Houly or variants but still have not found him. He is shown as deceased on the marriage certificate of my g/grandfather in 1857. I have found him in Cheshire Census in 1841 aged 30 and working as a mason Journeyman. He was born in Ireland. I am trying to get his death certificate but cannot find out anything about him. Can you help...trying for 20 or more years to find some trace of him. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: "'Evelyn Clarke'" <evelynclarke361@btinternet.com>; <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] (no subject) - changed to Online Parish Clerks. > Dear Evelyn, >> There are no online registers except for Family Search > > I should have answered that message more fully. > > Several counties have Online Parish Clerks, which include the counties of > Cornwall, Somerset, Devon, Sussex, Dorset, Warwickshire, Essex and > Wiltshire. http://www.onlineparishclerks.org.uk/ > > I think that this is what you may be thinking of ? If so, as far as I > know > there are no Online PC for Glamorgan, and so there are no online Parish > Registers, and other data for Glamorgan, which come free. > > You can purchase for a small cost, parish registers and other genealogical > delights from the Glamorgan Family History Society. Their website is: > http://www.glamfhs.org/ > or from The Parish Chest http://www.parishchest.com/Glamorgan_FHS__LID166 > > HTH > Cheers, Jill > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    WESTERN MAIL THURSDAY DECEMBER 16.1926. No. 337.                     FAMILY ANNOUNCEMENTS. IN MEMORIAM. WATKINS.- In Loving Memory of my dear husband John A. WATKINS, who died December 16th 1925.- Sadly missed by his loving Wife and Children. THOMAS.- In Loving Memory of my dear wife, Maud, who died on December 16th, 1924. Ever remembered by her Husband, Mother, Father, Brother, and Sisters. MORGAN.- In Affectionate Remembrance of Morgan MORGAN, who died December 16, 1926.- Wife, David, Maggie, Mervyn, and Norah. JONES.- In Ever-loving Memory of Bobbie, our darling baby, who fell asleep December 15th 1924.- Always remembered by Mammy, Daddy, and little Sister. HAYMAN.- December 16th. In Sweet and Loving Memory of Gladys, fondly-loved only daughter of Edwin and Rhoda SIRRELL, City-road, who fell asleep December 16th, 1919; also Ivor, her beloved husband, who passed away June 9th, 1919, and their darling baby, Ivor, called to Jesus April 28th 1920. Deeply mourned by her ever -sorrowing Father and Mother.- Loved with a never failing love.- Aunties, Uncles, Cousins, all Relatives, and many friends join in loving memory. BLOWER.- In Ever-loving Memory of my beloved mother. Caroline BLOWER, who died December 15th 1921. Sadly missed.- Doris.    ACKNOWLEDGMENTS. THOMAS.- The Widow and Daughters of the late David THOMAS, 10, Abbey-road, Neath, wish to thank all friends and relatives for letters of sympathy and beautiful floral tributes. GRIFFITHS.- Wm. E. GRIFFITHS, 12, Gibbs-road, Newport, wishes to thank all friends and relatives for kind letters and floral tributes. GRIFFITH.- Lady Ellis GRIFFITH and her Son wish to acknowledge with deep gratitude all the kind messages and beautiful wreaths sent to Towyn Capel and Llanidan. They fear that the messages of a number of friends have not been answered owing to incomplete addresses being given, and ask them to kindly accept this intimation of their apprecation and thanks. BALL.- Mr. and Mrs. H. BALL, 33, Rennie-street, wishes to thank all relatives and friends for their sympathy and floral tributes. APPLEN.- Mrs. APPLEN and Daughter, 2, Prince Edward-crescent, Ebbw Vale wish to thank their many friends for kind expressions of sympathy. John Patrick.

Hi To all who responded to my request A BIG THANK YOU FROM ME AND MY DAUGHTER IN LAW !!!!!!!!!! regards, BUDDUG HOLLETT

Thanks so much Doug Kindest regards Buddug ----- Original Message ----- From: rdmnanst@aol.com To: buddugh@talktalk.net ; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848-1911 Census Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image ------------------------------------------------------------------------ JONES, Bateman Head Married 42 years M 63 1848 Colliery Carpenter Glamorgan Tythegstone Parish JONES, Ann Wife Married F 61 1850 Glamorgan Tythegstone JONES, Richard Bateman Son Single M 35 1876 Road Man Glamorgan Laleston JONES, Bertie Son Single M 22 1889 Clerk Glamorgan Laleston ------------------------------------------------------------------ RG number: RG14 Piece: 32581 Reference: RG14PN32581 RG78PN1861 RD591 SD4 ED13 SN15 Registration District: Bridgend Sub District: Bridgend Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Laleston Address: Laleston Bridgend 1911 Census County: Glamorganshire Regards Doug Morris California, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Buddug Hollett <buddugh@talktalk.net> To: David <david@daijones.com>; GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 7:13 am Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 To Roy and David who responded to my request ,a very big thank you indeed !!!! kindest regards, from Buddug ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david@daijones.com> To: "Buddug Hollett" <buddugh@talktalk.net>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 > RG9; Piece: 4079; Folio: 48; Page: 20 > > 1861 > > > Edward Jones 50 > Reata Jones 48 > Baterman Jones 13 > Richard Jones 7 -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I had to smile at the implication that the Calvinistic Methodists pulled a fast one in the Census attendance figures 'game' in this AGY parish ! Suggests there was some sort of unwritten agreement not to publicise the census - but, I'm sure it was a quite innocent action on their part:-) * Llangeinwen Parish Church (Diocese of Bangor) Repaired and enlarged in 1839 Attendance - morning 60, afternoon 31 (average - morning 120/130, afternoon 40) "The number of persons who attended the Services in the Church on the 30th March 1851 was about one half the usual congregation and this is to be accounted for in this way. Many of the Parishioners are in the habit of attending both the Meeting houses and Church, but on this occasion public notice of the Census was given in the Chapels of the Calvinistic Methodists (who are by far the most numerous body of dissenters in this neighbourhood" W Williams, Rector Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

To Roy and David who responded to my request ,a very big thank you indeed !!!! kindest regards, from Buddug ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david@daijones.com> To: "Buddug Hollett" <buddugh@talktalk.net>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 > RG9; Piece: 4079; Folio: 48; Page: 20 > > 1861 > > > Edward Jones 50 > Reata Jones 48 > Baterman Jones 13 > Richard Jones 7

RG9; Piece: 4079; Folio: 48; Page: 20 1861 Edward Jones 50 Reata Jones 48 Baterman Jones 13 Richard Jones 7

RG10; Piece: 5421; Folio: 49; Page: 27 Richard Jones 72 Dinah Jones 66 Mary Jones 14 John C Carrie 11 Rees Rees 29 Sarah Rees 25 Thomas Rees 3 Sarah E Rees 2 Mary H Rees 3 Months Bateman Jones 23 Ann Jones 21 Thomas B Jones 2 Mary C Arthyr 10

Hi I'm doing some research for my daughter in law, one of her ancestors was a Bateman Jones born around the Kenfig Hill area c 1848 . I have some details of him taken from the censuses from 1881 onwards and his marriage record to an Anne Jones in 1868 in Bridgend . Despite browsing throgh all the other censuses previous to 1881 ,I just can't find him .On the 1881 census he's listed as Beatman but still no joy using this name and other variants of Bateman . Neither can I find a record of his birth. Before I go down the line of purchasing a marriage certificate for him ,I wondered if some kind person would have any records at their disposal that would show who his parents were etc. Thanks regards, Buddug Hollett

RE: Message 5: Hi Evelyn, Thanks for responding. William Thomas died Oct. 20, 1955 and his wife, Jane Mary on Aug. 4, 1946. Their son-in-law, Gabriel T. Drakes died Oct. 17, 1975 and his wife, Eluned in 1991. I expect they all are located in the newer section of the cemetery. There is no indication on any of their interment records whether or not a headstone was placed. I guess we won't know until someone goes and looks, an effort I would really appreciate. Take care now...Katie --- On Sat, 5/28/11, glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com <glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com> > Subject: GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 223 > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, May 28, 2011, 7:00 AM > > > To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com > and be patient. Jeff. List Admin > > Today's Topics: > >    1. taffywilliam@aol.com. > DO NOT OPEN ANY LINKS.POSSIBLE VIRUS.. >       (Gareth Morgan) >    2. Burial of cholera victims (IAN > GRAHAM) >    3. Request (Katie Thomas) >    4. Re: Request (Jeff Coleman) >    5. Re: Request (Evelyn Clarke) >    6. Re: 1841 Census reference to Swansea > Barracks (Lynda Hirst) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 21:05:38 +0100 (BST) > From: Gareth Morgan <morgangareth36@yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [GLA] taffywilliam@aol.com. > DO NOT OPEN ANY LINKS.POSSIBLE >     VIRUS.. > To: Glam <glamorgan-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <64472.44170.qm@web27908.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello List > > It appears that he may have been hacked. Earlier this week > there was an email with no subject. Never open any message > without a subject line or indeed with the subject of alert > etc.. They should be treated with suspicion. Better safe > than sorry. > > Gareth > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:07:08 +0100 > From: "IAN GRAHAM" <idgraham@btinternet.com> > Subject: [GLA] Burial of cholera victims > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <5222BD62FBDC4D9EBD8CA49FC4FE5E12@graham07d5804b> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="Windows-1252" > > May be of interest: > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GLAMORGAN/2004-03/1079607744 > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/Glamorgan5.html#cholera > > Ian G., Pant-teg > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 14:13:33 -0700 (PDT) > From: Katie Thomas <katiet223@yahoo.com> > Subject: [GLA] Request > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <106177.42937.qm@web84410.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I am seeking a local person to help me by taking a few > gravestone photos at the Treorchy Cemetery.  Graves are > Plot F 206 for William Thomas and his wife, Jane Mary, and > Plot N 690 for Gabriel T. Drakes and his wife, Eluned.  > They can be e-mailed to me at katiet223@yahoo.com > > I also have a question.  When I input Treherbert, two > counties are shown Glanmorganshire and Rhondda Cynon > Taff.  If the county designation changed, when (what > year) did it do so? > > Thanks,  Katie, NY, USA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 22:42:30 +0100 > From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Request > To: "Katie Thomas" <katiet223@yahoo.com>, > <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <71E936DB6F3A4029A04FF9B033906E8E@JeffPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; >     reply-type=original > > The county of Glamorgan existed for a number of centuries > until April 1974. > The organisation of local government on a local scale had > developed over the > years with borough councils, urban district councils and > rural district > councils. > > In 1974 the traditional Counties of Wales were re-organised > and Glamorgan > was split into three - West Glamorgan, Mid Glamorgan (which > included > Treherbert) and South Glamorgan.- Within each of these the > lower level of > local government was District Councils. > > In 1996 a further re-organisation into 22 'Unitary > Authorities' saw the > abolition both of the County and District Councils. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_Government_(Wales)_Act_1994 > gives a lot > of detail about it. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preserved_counties_of_Wales > refers to the > counties which existed from 1974 to 1996 and which still > exist ( with slight > alterations) for some ceremonial purposes. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historic_counties_of_Wales > describes the > evolution of the 'historic counties' including Glamorgan. > > Jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katie Thomas" <katiet223@yahoo.com> > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:13 PM > Subject: [GLA] Request > > > >I am seeking a local person to help me by taking a few > gravestone photos at > >the Treorchy Cemetery.  Graves are Plot F 206 for > William Thomas and his > >wife, Jane Mary, and Plot N 690 for Gabriel T. Drakes > and his wife, Eluned. > >They can be e-mailed to me at katiet223@yahoo.com > > > > I also have a question.  When I input Treherbert, > two counties are shown > > Glanmorganshire and Rhondda Cynon Taff.  If the > county designation > > changed, when (what year) did it do so? > > > > Thanks,  Katie, NY, USA > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 00:09:07 +0100 > From: "Evelyn Clarke" <evelynclarke361@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Request > To: "Katie Thomas" <katiet223@yahoo.com>, > <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <B5EAC8E3AC9644928E8384074A57D361@evelynPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; >     reply-type=original > > Hi Katie > > Before anybody goes looking for headstones for you have you > checked that > there is a headstone/gravestone on the grave ?? When did > William Thomas and > his wife die, and also Gabriel and his wife?? If its > between 1871 and 1991 > you can get an interment record from Treorchy library and > this will reveal > if it has a headstone on it - if it has then someone can go > take a picture > for you > > Evelyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Katie Thomas" <katiet223@yahoo.com> > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 10:13 PM > Subject: [GLA] Request > > > >I am seeking a local person to help me by taking a few > gravestone photos at > >the Treorchy Cemetery.  Graves are Plot F 206 for > William Thomas and his > >wife, Jane Mary, and Plot N 690 for Gabriel T. Drakes > and his wife, Eluned. > >They can be e-mailed to me at katiet223@yahoo.com > > > > I also have a question.  When I input Treherbert, > two counties are shown > > Glanmorganshire and Rhondda Cynon Taff.  If the > county designation > > changed, when (what year) did it do so? > > > > Thanks,  Katie, NY, USA > > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. > are at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > > - > > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of > useful links, may be > > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > > > - > > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help > Pages > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html > and > > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 13:14:41 +1200 > From: Lynda Hirst <lynda.hirst@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GLA] 1841 Census reference to Swansea > Barracks > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4DE04C81.7080901@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > Hi all > > have just come across a reference in the 1841 census, to a > William Beard > [my brick wall], being enumerated at Swansea Barracks as > 'Military' but > having googled, I haven't found anything that indicates > where the > Barracks were located or any other reference of use > --  As usual, I > can't reach the Cambrian Index to check for anything there, > nor can I > reach the other Swansea sites --  -- does anyone have > any information > about the Barracks please? > > cheers > Lynda > Christchurch NZ > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GLAMORGAN list administrator, send an email > to > GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GLAMORGAN mailing list, send an > email to GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 6, Issue 223 > ***************************************** >

Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image JONES, Bateman Head Married 42 years M 63 1848 Colliery Carpenter Glamorgan Tythegstone Parish JONES, Ann Wife Married F 61 1850 Glamorgan Tythegstone JONES, Richard Bateman Son Single M 35 1876 Road Man Glamorgan Laleston JONES, Bertie Son Single M 22 1889 Clerk Glamorgan Laleston RG number: RG14 Piece: 32581 Reference: RG14PN32581 RG78PN1861 RD591 SD4 ED13 SN15 Registration District: Bridgend Sub District: Bridgend Enumeration District: 13 Parish: Laleston Address: Laleston Bridgend 1911 Census County: Glamorganshire Regards Doug Morris California, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Buddug Hollett <buddugh@talktalk.net> To: David <david@daijones.com>; GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 7:13 am Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 To Roy and David who responded to my request ,a very big thank you indeed !!!! kindest regards, from Buddug ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david@daijones.com> To: "Buddug Hollett" <buddugh@talktalk.net>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 > RG9; Piece: 4079; Folio: 48; Page: 20 > > 1861 > > > Edward Jones 50 > Reata Jones 48 > Baterman Jones 13 > Richard Jones 7 -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Death info Bateman B. JONES 1st Qt 1937, Bridgend, 11-a-892 birth about 1849 88 years old Regards Doug Morris California, Missouri -----Original Message----- From: Buddug Hollett <buddugh@talktalk.net> To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 6:23 am Subject: [GLA] Bateman Jones c 1848 Hi I'm doing some research for my daughter in law, one of her ancestors was a Bateman Jones born around the Kenfig Hill area c 1848 . I have some details of him taken from the censuses from 1881 onwards and his marriage record to an Anne Jones in 1868 in Bridgend . Despite browsing throgh all the other censuses previous to 1881 ,I just can't find him .On the 1881 census he's listed as Beatman but still no joy using this name and other variants of Bateman . Neither can I find a record of his birth. Before I go down the line of purchasing a marriage certificate for him ,I wondered if some kind person would have any records at their disposal that would show who his parents were etc. Thanks regards, Buddug Hollett -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cowbridge & District Remembered 1900-1950 Cowbridge Record Society 2002 ISBN 0 9537029 3 6 101 Pages .....I am reading it now .....If wanted I will post little snippets names etc. Memories of life in Aberthin, Cowbridge, Llanblethian, Llysworney, Maendy, Trerhyngyll and Ystradowen in the early years of the twentieth century. CONTRIBUTORS. * Ralph Bird Cowbridge * Gwyneth Williams Cowbridge * Joyce Tonkin Cowbridge * Becky Jenkins Llanblethian * Winifred Huish Aberthin * Hubert Thomas Llanblethian Llysworney and Cowbridge * Bertram Jenkins Llanblethian * Walter Stone Llanblethian * Arthur John Cowbridge * Herbert David Cowbridge * Alf Charles Trerhyngyll Maendy and Ystradowen * Elgiva Thomas Cowbridge Girls High School * Alan Thomas Llysworney and Cowbridge Robert Alun Chick Penarth.

Can I just say, I never said it was simple, but if you get the internment record you can normally (with a little bit of knowledge) discover whether or not you will find a headstone on the grave ...... basically I have found if it says it is a common grave it meant there was no headstone on it, but you could still find where the person was buried.... but the grave might not just have your ancestors in it .... haha Im starting to wish I hadnt answered the request now .... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Morgan" <morgangareth36@yahoo.co.uk> To: "Glam" <glamorgan-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] Request > Hello David > > It all depends on who you talk to when you visit. There used to be an > office there with the records (probably closed by now). However if there > is a gravedigger around I find it always pays to have a word with them. > They can usually put you on the right track. Another important factor > regarding graves are the ownsership of them. The council normally has an > address of the person who bought the grave as well as who is intered in > the grave and when. > > Gareth > > I will echo what Evelyn has said about gravestones/headstones and all > other > details but it is not so simple. > > There are two distinct cemeteries within the Treorchy complex. The 'new' > cemetery is the 'lawn' type. Most of those burials will have some form of > identification. > > In the 'old' cemetry there are large gravestones, many of which have > collapsed in to the ground, or are now laying quite flat, or there are > 'flat' graves with just an urn with a name. > > With the large headstones it took me much time to find just one stone and > I > had a head start since my mum knew the approximate location. But there are > hundreds of these in each plot and on quite steep slopes - the cemetry is > built on the mountain-side. > > My family have all these types plus one great-great grand-mother (IIRC) > who > did not wish for any headstone at all - her grand-daughter, as my mum > relates spent many hours trying to locate the burial to no avail. > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message