"I dare say listers will have been watching avidly the Urdd Eisteddfod from Abertawe. I watched on line as I can't get S4C in benighted England and saw some wonderful work." FreeSAT will give it to you without the need to get Sky. Best thing I did. Married a "Saes" so the children are half and half. My son sees himself Welsh/English and my daughter English/Welsh. But getting S4C has given my son an interest in the language taking an online course and enjoying Rownd a Rownd. I'm a Pobl y Cwm man myself. Even got my English wife to watch the special Eisteddfod concert because it was Men Aloud. I also have the misfortune of one generation in England when the family name moved down from Scotland to God's country. But I now live in England doing the missionary work of bringing culture to the masses, and injecting some better DNA into the English gene pool. Remember it took a Welsh advisor to a Welsh King to get the official language of England & Wales changed from French to English to try and get some peace and quiet....... Still we can make the right decision all the time. That would be boring.... Long live the mix. It makes genealogy interesting.

Well, then, I can lay claim to have been born near the great city of Manchester, of Welsh parents who migrated, as ever, for work, and I was Welsh speaking till English overlaid it at school. Keeping up the language was not so important in those far off days, though Chapel did its one-hour-sermon best. I love the Scots as spoken by James Naughtie - but I agree gud wi' fud is dreadful! I dare say listers will have been watching avidly the Urdd Eisteddfod from Abertawe. I watched on line as I can't get S4C in benighted England and saw some wonderful work. Particularly memorable was the harp solo for years 7 to 9, won by Nest Jenkins from Ceredigion, the dancers from Pontypridd, and the brass soloists. And lots more I did not catch. Eisteddfodau are a great training for confidence, and gracious losing, so necessary later on! Talk about Britain's got Talent - come to the Urdd! Glenys (Travis) -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 9375 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

I'm one of the fortunate few, able to claim the great privilege of dual nationality being born in London of Welsh parents. Probably explains why I'm sometimes perplexed when the whole nationality thing is taken too seriously, in my humble opinion. This *light hearted* exchange on the BBC's flagship Today programme last week may help to put it in perspective since it has 2 prominent broadcasters being able to banter about it publically. ########## Today presenter James Naughtie was surprised to learn that underneath his obvious Scottish-ness, he's actually English ! Tests on his DNA showed his origins to be Anglo Saxon. "He's English," quipped John Humphrys . "At least I'm not Welsh," Naughtie retorted. "He's one of those little black gnomes from Brittany," jibed Naughtie at his sparring partner. "I'm going to go to the CRE," threatened Humphrys. "Someone make the call for me..............." ############## Mind you, as someone with a bland 'South East England ' accent I'm inexplicably irritated when hearing a heavily Scottish accent pronouncing the word 'food' in some tv advert or other :-) I speak 'tongue in cheek' of course - as a Welsh/Englishman (Oh, definitely that way round!) I like the Scots (and the Irish) and regional accent has nothing whatsoever to do with nationality. I've just reported the facts as light heartedly as possible - without making an issue out of it. The last thing I want is a list exchange on nationality, so please just assume that the list admin wouldn't either. Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

Photos of: St Rhystud's Church, Llanrhystud, CGN Dear Listers, The latest subject to be added to my 'Welsh Churches and Chapels collection' is: St Rhystud's, the parish church at Llanrhystud, in county of Ceredigion / Cardiganshire. The photographs were kindly supplied by Edward Llewellyn-Jones. Go to www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/churches/ and scroll down the index to the Llanrhystud link. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Website: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/ Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys (& BRE/MGY/RAD) RootsWeb mailing lists Webmaster - Breconshire Local & Family History Society

In a message dated 05/06/2011 11:55:06 GMT Daylight Time, glenys@travis.ndo.co.uk writes: Particularly memorable was the harp solo for years 7 to 9, won by Nest Jenkins from Ceredigion I wish I had heard that. My father was the winner for under 18s at the 1925 and 1926 National Eisteddfodau and I was brought up with Welsh harp music despite living in Essex. My father was born in Wales of Welsh speaking parents and moved to Essex to teach. My mother was born in Co Wicklow, Ireland of an Irish mother and English? father. My aunt thought he might be Welsh. What nationality can I claim - more Welsh than English by blood and certainly Welsh via the male line. My husband's father was born in Cornwall of a Welsh father and English mother so I am wondering what this makes my three boys who were all born in England. I know that my cousin speaks Welsh and believe there were Welsh speakers on my husband's side. I am now making a concerted attempt to learn Welsh via the OU. Anna Thomas

I'm Wenglish, when someone asks me over here in Ohio. What gets up my nose is when I'm trying to listen to the commentary of a soccer match while on my computer, and there's a Cockney, or a Scottish commentator. I've come to the conclusion that it must be part of their probation stint. Terry ---- Gareth <tirbach@clara.co.uk> wrote: > I'm one of the fortunate few, able to claim the great privilege of dual > nationality being born in London of Welsh parents. > Probably explains why I'm sometimes perplexed when the whole nationality > thing is taken too seriously, in my humble opinion. > > This *light hearted* exchange on the BBC's flagship Today programme last > week may help to put it in perspective since it has 2 prominent broadcasters > being able to banter about it publically. > ########## > Today presenter James Naughtie was surprised to learn that underneath his > obvious Scottish-ness, he's actually English ! > Tests on his DNA showed his origins to be Anglo Saxon. > "He's English," quipped John Humphrys . > "At least I'm not Welsh," Naughtie retorted. > "He's one of those little black gnomes from Brittany," jibed Naughtie at his > sparring partner. > "I'm going to go to the CRE," threatened Humphrys. "Someone make the call > for me..............." > ############## > > Mind you, as someone with a bland 'South East England ' accent I'm > inexplicably irritated when hearing a heavily Scottish accent pronouncing > the word 'food' in some tv advert or other :-) > I speak 'tongue in cheek' of course - as a Welsh/Englishman (Oh, > definitely that way round!) I like the Scots (and the Irish) and regional > accent has nothing whatsoever to do with nationality. > > I've just reported the facts as light heartedly as possible - without making > an issue out of it. > The last thing I want is a list exchange on nationality, so please just > assume that the list admin wouldn't either. > > > Gareth > Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ > Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Gareth / Glenys or anyone who can help Thought i had the right family but I didnt so once again I am asking the list if they can help WILLIAM LEWIS gggrandfather b1828 m Hannah Davies b 1839 married 1853 Zoar Chapel Merthry Tydful 2 children Thomas , Elizabeth (Ggrandmother). I have marriage cert, brth Cert for children, shipping record as they immigrated to Australia in 1862 on the "Annie Wilson " I have the 1841, 1851 , 1861 , census for them . WILLIAM ,HANNAH,THOMAS,ELIZABETH.(1861) On the 1841 census of WILLIAM LEWIS other siblings are JOHN b1826 ELIZABETH b 1830 Parents of WILLIAM LEWIS , David b 1806 think mother is Mary b 1801. ''''''' '''''' ' HANNAH DAVIES John and Elizabeth - POSSIBLE MARRIAGE -28 march 1821 Merthyr Tydfil ( Elizabeth Vaughan) bride , grooms parish Merthyr Tydfil. I would like to find out if this is the correct families of WILLIAM and HANNAH also to find where the other siblings went and if there are any decendants still alive today its hard with such common names A big thank you to everyone that has helped me so far Dianne

HI Is there anyone at all who can help me in my search for my gggrandparents ,parents and siblings william Lewis/Hannah Davies thank you Dianne

Hi Wendy Thats interesting... what was the name of the Farm and where in Carms was it... I'll see if I can find anything. Jen --- On Fri, 3/6/11, WLawday@aol.com <WLawday@aol.com> wrote: > From: WLawday@aol.com <WLawday@aol.com> > Subject: [GLA] WELSH IRONWORKERS - FRENCH REVOLUTION? > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 3 June, 2011, 12:08 > I don't know if there is any link, > but my son once lived in a farmhouse in  > Carmarthenshire rumoued to have had swords made there for > export to France  > during this time.  No idea if it's true though! > > WENDY > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful > links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help > Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html > and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hello Dianne You have sent details to the list twice on 1st June under the heading 'Fw:lewis/davies' as follows WILLIAM LEWIS gggrandfather b1828 m Hannah Davies b 1839 married 1853 Zoar Chapel Merthry Tydful 2 children Thomas , Elizabeth (Ggrandmother). I have marriage cert, brth Cert for children, shipping record as they immigrated to Australia in 1862 on the "Annie Wilson " You then tell us that you have the census records for them in 1861 and also in 1841 and 1851. Without knowing the details of these censuses we are unlikely to be able to help you. Let us know the details of the 1861 census for a start, and also the locations, fathers' names and occupations shown on the 1853 marriage certificate. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dianne" <plaizier3@optusnet.com.au> To: "glam" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:35 PM Subject: [GLA] ned help > HI > Is there anyone at all who can help me in my search for my gggrandparents > ,parents and siblings william Lewis/Hannah Davies > thank you > Dianne > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Many thanks to Jen, who has provided some facts and interesting leads to follow up, though it is Carmarthenshire history, there are pobably some links with Glamorgan. My son may know a bit more, but I am pleased that it seems there is some basis for the legend. WENDY

Hello Dianne Unusual names you have there. Even so could you add a little more detail, such as the places they lived at or how old they were when they lived in those places. Maybe a name for a sibling could be helpful as well. HI Is there anyone at all who can help me in my search for my gggrandparents,parents and siblings William LEWIS/Hannah DAVIES. thank you Dianne

Sorry Jill, I seemed to have given the impression that the family lived in Wales at the time but they actually moved to Wales later on (about 1869 or so). Thanks anyway - I've had some really enlightening replies and I don't feel quite so in the dark about what was going on at the time. Best Wishes Eirwen -----Original Message----- From: Jill Muir Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 7:23 AM To: Glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] re WEBB BORN IN FRANCE There was a contingent of Welsh who went as Ironworkers to France but they may have been just slightly earlier then your family's move there. I am not sure how long the iron workers were going to France though, so worth a look anyhow. Go to the Glamorgan List Archives, http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ And simply put 'France' in the Subject matter and see what comes up. There is an interesting message from the late Brain Wagstaffe, about these Iron Workers written on 04 Dec 2000 My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Farnhill Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:56 PM To: Glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] re WEBB BORN IN FRANCE Hi Another possibility is that your ancestors were involved with pit-prop trade. Pit props were an important export from the area around Bordeaux, particularly to south Wales. They had children in Ruardean (Forest of Dean- forestry (pit-props?) - mining), Bordeaux (pit-props) and Llanharry (mining) - so there could be a connection. My French teacher told me that this trade between S Wales and SW France is one of the reasons Rugby is so popular in the Bordeaux area. Regards john Farnhill Cardiff -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. --- On Fri, 3/6/11, robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Pit Props In South Wales. > To: "Hugh Jordan" <m@ilmenow.com> > Date: Friday, 3 June, 2011, 11:40 > I'm Graham By The way. > Castle Class Locomotives were also used on the London Run. > It was the "Britannia" Class of Loco's based at Canton. > Although we did have a few Pacific's come to East Dock now > and again. > In fact the Midland area dumped a lot of their stuff down > our way in those closing years of Steam.The "Flying > Dutchman"I seem to remember being berthed on the incoming > road at East Dock sheds one night. > My Mistake.But after nearly 50 years I'm entitled to be > hazy in old age! > There was also "Hall's"on the London Run too. > Try and get hold of that excellent book by John HODGE > entitled > "The South Wales Main Line"Part one CARDIFF. > Lots of lovely Steam engines.Lots on Canton Sheds and the > main line. > Lots of Kings and Castles,and of course the Britannia's. > It was usually a "Castle"That went from Swansea to > Cardiff. > These engines sometimes went all the way through to > London. > But in most cases,were replaced by a "King"at Cardiff. > Again,you will see that in that book. > Cheers Graham. > From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. >        Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. > > > --- On Fri, 3/6/11, Hugh Jordan <m@ilmenow.com> > wrote: > > > From: Hugh Jordan <m@ilmenow.com> > > Subject: Re: [GLA] Pit Props In South Wales. > > To: "robert williams" <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> > > Date: Friday, 3 June, 2011, 11:14 > > This only to you, not the list, > > Robert. > > > > I thought the Pacifics were LNER locomotives? > > > > I clearly recall, least I think I do, that it was > Castle > > Class locos hauled the London - South Wales trains > until the > > early sixties?? > > > > Hugh > > > > > > At 11:00 03/06/2011, robert williams wrote: > > > > > I had started working with B.R;on the 29th'of > January > > 1962 cleaning the Magnificent "King Class Steam > Engines". > > > 6 of these Powerful Beasts were transferred from > > Bristol and London,to Canton Sheds, to replace the > "Pacific > > Class"that were used on the Cardiff to London > Passenger > > Run. > > > > >

The mention of "Pit Props"had me thinking back to my days as a young "Fireman" with British Railways[as it was then.] I was based in Windsor Road sidings where we had our office. After we booked on duty,We then had to walk or bum a lift to Cardiff East Dock Shed where our "Steam Engines"were being looked after. This shed closed in about 1958,and was sold to a "Scrap Merchant". Then when the Transition period came about with the introduction of Diesel Power in to South Wales,and Canton Steam Sheds was closed in 1962 for conversion,Most of the Steam Power ended up in East Dock Shed. The Railways Hired the shed back off the Scrappy for an exorbitant sum of money to house these Steam Engines. I had started working with B.R;on the 29th'of January 1962 cleaning the Magnificent "King Class Steam Engines". 6 of these Powerful Beasts were transferred from Bristol and London,to Canton Sheds, to replace the "Pacific Class"that were used on the Cardiff to London Passenger Run. Anyway,I was quickly Promoted from Cleaner to Fireman on my 16th;birthday in October 1962,and was transferred to East Dock Sheds. We had all manner of Trips in the offering. Taking a Train of Coal to Barry Dock,and coming with a Train Of Gunpowder or Bananas,and other mixed freight. The most Dangerous Trips were from Cardiff to Birmingham with a Train of 10 x 100 ton Tanks of Petrol from Cardiff's Tidal Sidings to Birmingham's Soho Pool. We only went as far as Gloucester. This Train would have Three Banking Engines when it got the "Lickey Incline".The Steepest Mainline Gradient in Britain,which was just outside Birmingham. The dangerous Trip in the Cardiff Area though,was the Little train we took from Pengam sidings to St;Mellons Pit Prop Yard. This sidings now long gone,was situated on the Side of the Up Relief Railway line between St;Mellons and Marshfield. The dangerous part of it, as far as we were concerned, was the fact the whole sidings was bursting with Pit Props. They were stacked high and low all over the place. So as a good deal of "Shunting"was involved with our little Tankie Engine, We had to watch our heads when we leaned over the sides. Many of my Fellow firemen and drivers had injuries through having bumped their heads and faces on these big Sticks! The Pit Props were left out in the open to "Weather"them prior to being moved again to the Pits. Never was a young Fireman like myself more relieved to finish one of those shifts! Graham.[worked for B.R;1962-1981] From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

I don't know if there is any link, but my son once lived in a farmhouse in Carmarthenshire rumoued to have had swords made there for export to France during this time. No idea if it's true though! WENDY

There was a contingent of Welsh who went as Ironworkers to France but they may have been just slightly earlier then your family's move there. I am not sure how long the iron workers were going to France though, so worth a look anyhow. Go to the Glamorgan List Archives, http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ And simply put 'France' in the Subject matter and see what comes up. There is an interesting message from the late Brain Wagstaffe, about these Iron Workers written on 04 Dec 2000 My best wishes, Jill Glamorgan Mailing List's website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Farnhill Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:56 PM To: Glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] re WEBB BORN IN FRANCE Hi Another possibility is that your ancestors were involved with pit-prop trade. Pit props were an important export from the area around Bordeaux, particularly to south Wales. They had children in Ruardean (Forest of Dean- forestry (pit-props?) - mining), Bordeaux (pit-props) and Llanharry (mining) - so there could be a connection. My French teacher told me that this trade between S Wales and SW France is one of the reasons Rugby is so popular in the Bordeaux area. Regards john Farnhill Cardiff -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Gareth I wouldn't call that picky, you work hard maintaining the site. Please accept my sincere apology. Gareth --- On Thu, 2/6/11, Gareth <tirbach@clara.co.uk> wrote: The 'other' Gareth said; Here's what is said about the period on GENUKI I guess I'm being picky but actually that data is from my Help Page Time Line :-) http://home.clara.net/tirbach/HelpPagepearls6.html Gareth

Hi John That sounds like another good possibility. Although he was an AG LAB in 1861 he did later become a collier so who knows what might have gone on in between. Thank you that idea. Eirwen -----Original Message----- From: John Farnhill Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 6:55 PM To: Glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] re WEBB BORN IN FRANCE Hi Another possibility is that your ancestors were involved with pit-prop trade. Pit props were an important export from the area around Bordeaux, particularly to south Wales. They had children in Ruardean (Forest of Dean- forestry (pit-props?) - mining), Bordeaux (pit-props) and Llanharry (mining) - so there could be a connection. My French teacher told me that this trade between S Wales and SW France is one of the reasons Rugby is so popular in the Bordeaux area. Regards john Farnhill Cardiff -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message