Thanks guys, that was fast! Wonder if there's mention of William and Mary Gale in the 1871 Wales Census. >From a 1871 Penarth directory, William Gale was listed as working as a Butcher, although he was also a photographer. Best, Jim On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Jon's FH <jons.fh@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Jim, > > Found at http://www.freebmd.org.uk > > Marriages Oct-Dec 1857 > Registration District: Cardiff > Vol.: 11a > Page: 376 > William Gale & Mary Williams > > Kindest regards, > > Jon >

Marriage Date 6 OCTOBER 1857Groom WILLIAM GALEage 26B father WILLIAMBride MARY WILLIAMSage 20S father DANIELParish Church ST. MARYCARDIFF Regards Jennie Website http://welsh-genealogy-services.com/ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jon's FH" <jons.fh@btinternet.com> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 4:23 PM To: "Jimmy Leiderman" <leiderman@gmail.com>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] William Gale - Cardiff Marriage - 1850s > Hi Jim, > > Found at http://www.freebmd.org.uk > > Marriages Oct-Dec 1857 > Registration District: Cardiff > Vol.: 11a > Page: 376 > William Gale & Mary Williams > > Kindest regards, > > Jon > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Jim, Found at http://www.freebmd.org.uk Marriages Oct-Dec 1857 Registration District: Cardiff Vol.: 11a Page: 376 William Gale & Mary Williams Kindest regards, Jon

In 1861 William ROGERS was living in Carmarthen but in 1871 he had moved to 34 Strand, Swansea. I know from items in the London Gazette, William had moved by 1864. I'd like to try to ascertain more closely when he did move by using the electoral rolls. As an attorney, he should have qualified for inclusion. Could someone tell me, please, would the electoral rolls be at the record office or elsewhere? -- Charani (UK) OPC for Walton, Greinton and Clutton, SOM Asst OPC for Ashcott and Shapwick, SOM http://wsom-opc.org.uk http://www.savethegurkhas.co.uk/

Hello Listers, I have offered to help an elderly friend, trace her family history. ( however living in Western Australia with no access to the English-Wales censuses and Parish records I am hoping SKP from the GLAMORGAN rootsweb is willing to help) She has tried to do her research, but failing eyesight has made it difficult for her. If someone is willing to help,could we work back one step at a time? Mary was born in Collie Western Australia in 1934 Her maternal ancesters came from Bridgend Wales Mary's mother Annie May VERNON was born in 1911 Bridgend.Wales. She believes Annie's parents were John VERNON and Mary SAMUEL However ( looking at BMD) there are 3 Mary SAMUEL's in the general area so first question which Mary SAMUEL? One clue!! She has a photograph of an elderly couple,but does not know who they are, written on the back is " To Mary Vernon from your loving brother and sister Harry and Cass" The photograph was taken in Port Talbot. Could "Cass" be short for Catherine? As I see in BMD that a Catherine Ann SAMUEL married Arthur Henry MOULE in 1900 This question solved would be enough for my first request--- I would have further questions next time as we progress. Thank you in anticipation. Rhonda Bartlett

Hi Evelyn I dont know if you have had an answer to this already. I'm not sure now if there is an entrance to the old cemetery from the area of Potters Field road Trecynon If you go into the "new" cemetery walking westwards there is a path going northwards. If memory serves me there is a bridge that connects the new to the old. Have you looked at this on multimap.com or Google Earth. Hope this helps Regards John

Hello, Looking for information on an 1850s Cardiff marriage between William Gale and Mary (?). 1861 Census records returned the following: 1861 8 Bute Terrace, Cardiff St Mary, Glamorgan William Gale, head, 29, Book Binder, London Middlesex Mary, wife, 24, Cardif Glamorganshire John Gilmore, lodger, 25, Lab, Liverpool lancashire Charles Smith, lodger, 25, Seaman, Germany Margaret Harrington, serv, 20, servant, Ireland Would really appreciate any info on marriage date, more info on 'Mary'. Jim

Hi, Does anyone have list of 1851 marriages? I'm looking for the following marriage, somewhere between 1851-1855 and I think maybe Merthyr. David Davies of Pencarreg to Maria ?poss Davies. On 1861 original census, says wife from Lanlassant, and written says Llansaint, Glamorganshire, but I only know of Llantrisant. (llansaint in Carms?) Census was in Merthyr Tydfil, parish Ystradyfodwg. Just wondering if anyone had details of around that time, thanks for looking. Regards Helen

Rhonda, FreeBMD has: Births Sep 1911 VERNON Annie M Samuel Bridgend 11a 2029 Marriages Sep 1907 Bridgend 11a 1459 DAVID Moses; SAMUEL Mary; THOMAS Ann; Vernon John Children in 1911, at Gower Villa Heolycyw, Pencoed, Bridgend Catherine Jane Vernon 4 Albert James Peploe Vernon1 [There are more births in the Wandsworth district of London, but these are probably the result of a marriage in nearby Kingston Marriages Mar 1905 Samuel Leah Rebecca Kingston 2a 548 VERNON Frederick George Kingston 2a 548 Births Sep 1912 Vernon Sidney S Samuel Wandsworth 1d 922 Births Sep 1915 Vernon William A Samuel Wandsworth 1d 858 Births Sep 1918 Vernon Doris E Samuel Wandsworth 1d 620 Births Jun 1921 Vernon Florence E Samuel Wandsworth 1d 897 Births Mar 1923 Vernon Harold J Samuel Wandsworth 1d 881 Births Sep 1926 Vernon Ronald F Samuel Wandsworth 1d 714] John Vernon is in 1881 census aged 1mo, and in 1891 and 1901 with parents James & Jane, though his father is not with the family in 1901. Marriages Mar 1879 Cardiff 11a 313 JAMES Jane; Morris Herbert; Vernon James; WEST Sarah In 1871 James Vernon is with his widower father, John, who is a boatman at Canalside Gabalfa, Cardiff. He was also with his widower father in 1861. There is a six year gap in the children. Did some die, or were there two marriages? Dai On 13/06/2011 06:58, Rhonda Bartlett wrote: > Hello Listers, > I have offered to help an elderly friend, trace her family history. > ( however living in Western Australia with no access to the English-Wales > censuses and Parish records > I am hoping SKP from the GLAMORGAN rootsweb is willing to help) > She has tried to do her research, but failing eyesight has made it difficult > for her. > If someone is willing to help,could we work back one step at a time? > Mary was born in Collie Western Australia in 1934 > Her maternal ancesters came from Bridgend Wales > Mary's mother Annie May VERNON was born in 1911 Bridgend.Wales. > She believes Annie's parents were John VERNON and Mary SAMUEL > However ( looking at BMD) there are 3 Mary SAMUEL's in the general area so > first question which Mary SAMUEL? > One clue!! She has a photograph of an elderly couple,but does not know who > they are, written on the back is > " To Mary Vernon from your loving brother and sister Harry and Cass" > The photograph was taken in Port Talbot. Could "Cass" be short for > Catherine? > As I see in BMD that a Catherine Ann SAMUEL married Arthur Henry MOULE in > 1900 > This question solved would be enough for my first request--- I would have > further questions next time as we progress. > Thank you in anticipation. > Rhonda Bartlett >

Not the right family. I see John married Mary Samuel in 1907, and they are in Pencoed in 1911. Dai On 13/06/2011 07:30, Dai & Angela Bevan wrote: > Rhonda, > An infant Annie Vernon left the UK in December 1911 on the 'Omrah' , but > the father was James, and the mother just Mrs. It was a large > family. Can your friend give us the names of Annie's siblings? > > Dai Bevan > > > On 13/06/2011 06:58, Rhonda Bartlett wrote: >> Hello Listers, >> I have offered to help an elderly friend, trace her family history. >> ( however living in Western Australia with no access to the English-Wales >> censuses and Parish records >> I am hoping SKP from the GLAMORGAN rootsweb is willing to help) >> She has tried to do her research, but failing eyesight has made it difficult >> for her. >> If someone is willing to help,could we work back one step at a time? >> Mary was born in Collie Western Australia in 1934 >> Her maternal ancesters came from Bridgend Wales >> Mary's mother Annie May VERNON was born in 1911 Bridgend.Wales. >> She believes Annie's parents were John VERNON and Mary SAMUEL >> However ( looking at BMD) there are 3 Mary SAMUEL's in the general area so >> first question which Mary SAMUEL? >> One clue!! She has a photograph of an elderly couple,but does not know who >> they are, written on the back is >> " To Mary Vernon from your loving brother and sister Harry and Cass" >> The photograph was taken in Port Talbot. Could "Cass" be short for >> Catherine? >> As I see in BMD that a Catherine Ann SAMUEL married Arthur Henry MOULE in >> 1900 >> This question solved would be enough for my first request--- I would have >> further questions next time as we progress. >> Thank you in anticipation. >> Rhonda Bartlett >>

Rhonda, An infant Annie Vernon left the UK in December 1911 on the 'Omrah' , but the father was James, and the mother just Mrs. It was a large family. Can your friend give us the names of Annie's siblings? Dai Bevan On 13/06/2011 06:58, Rhonda Bartlett wrote: > Hello Listers, > I have offered to help an elderly friend, trace her family history. > ( however living in Western Australia with no access to the English-Wales > censuses and Parish records > I am hoping SKP from the GLAMORGAN rootsweb is willing to help) > She has tried to do her research, but failing eyesight has made it difficult > for her. > If someone is willing to help,could we work back one step at a time? > Mary was born in Collie Western Australia in 1934 > Her maternal ancesters came from Bridgend Wales > Mary's mother Annie May VERNON was born in 1911 Bridgend.Wales. > She believes Annie's parents were John VERNON and Mary SAMUEL > However ( looking at BMD) there are 3 Mary SAMUEL's in the general area so > first question which Mary SAMUEL? > One clue!! She has a photograph of an elderly couple,but does not know who > they are, written on the back is > " To Mary Vernon from your loving brother and sister Harry and Cass" > The photograph was taken in Port Talbot. Could "Cass" be short for > Catherine? > As I see in BMD that a Catherine Ann SAMUEL married Arthur Henry MOULE in > 1900 > This question solved would be enough for my first request--- I would have > further questions next time as we progress. > Thank you in anticipation. > Rhonda Bartlett >

Sorry to hear about Geoff Jill. Give my condolences to his family please. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Muir" <jill@shottle.plus.com> To: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com>, glamorgan@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 2:18:17 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Geoff Riggs Hi Jeff, I am truly sorry to learn of Geoff's death. I didn't know him personally, but have spoken to him and have been in email contact several times. A sad loss to his family and the Family History world. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:32 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Cc: Ann Macey Subject: [GLA] Geoff Riggs For those of you who had come across him in the Federation of Family History Societies or elsewhere: "It is my sad duty to report that Geoff Riggs passed away earlier today. The family will be having a private funeral later this week (family only) and anticipate that a memorial service will be held in September for all friends and family historians who would like to attend. Alec Tritton Chairman Halsted Trust" http://www.halsted.org.uk/Personnel.htm has details of Geoff Riggs' involvement in Family History Research in a variety of contexts Jeff list admin, Glamorgan list -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jeff, I am truly sorry to learn of Geoff's death. I didn't know him personally, but have spoken to him and have been in email contact several times. A sad loss to his family and the Family History world. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:32 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Cc: Ann Macey Subject: [GLA] Geoff Riggs For those of you who had come across him in the Federation of Family History Societies or elsewhere: "It is my sad duty to report that Geoff Riggs passed away earlier today. The family will be having a private funeral later this week (family only) and anticipate that a memorial service will be held in September for all friends and family historians who would like to attend. Alec Tritton Chairman Halsted Trust" http://www.halsted.org.uk/Personnel.htm has details of Geoff Riggs' involvement in Family History Research in a variety of contexts Jeff list admin, Glamorgan list -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

For those of you who had come across him in the Federation of Family History Societies or elsewhere: "It is my sad duty to report that Geoff Riggs passed away earlier today. The family will be having a private funeral later this week (family only) and anticipate that a memorial service will be held in September for all friends and family historians who would like to attend. Alec Tritton Chairman Halsted Trust" http://www.halsted.org.uk/Personnel.htm has details of Geoff Riggs' involvement in Family History Research in a variety of contexts Jeff list admin, Glamorgan list

Rhondda Research specialise in Rhondda Valley family history research. They can be contacted at GP15@aol.com Not sure if David Phillips still does this.

Hello Can anyone tell me if there is a list available of burials at Treorchy Cemetery either free or that can be purchased ??? Many thanks Evelyn

On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 08:38:03 +0100, <WLawday@aol.com> wrote: > I have found errors on nearly all of my searches of the 1911 census and > sent in corrections. > Some of the entries I only managed to find by entering the names of other > members of the families. Hi Listers, I already have 1911 census details for my families who lived in Pontycymmer, Llangeinor near Bridgend, but out of curiosity I thought I would look in the index on https://www.familysearch.org/search/ Searching in 1911 for my 2x great-grandmother, Angel Dore VOKES, brings up her birthplace as Temple Church, Somersetshire. There's just a little error here as Church should be Cloud, but looking at the handwriting on the original document I can see how an indexer would have thought that the word was Church. Temple Cloud must have been difficult to read in the 1901 Llangeinor census, too, as my 2x great-grandmother's birth place is given as Temple Eland in the index for 1901 on familysearch and her surname is indexed as VOKER. I haven't checked with the original 1901 Llangeinor census details, yet, but I have a feeling that the handwriting may be difficult to read. I know that I had a lot of trouble reading the 1891 Llangeinor census some years ago. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah The Glamorganshire Canal www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I have found errors on nearly all of my searches of the 1911 census and sent in corrections. A few as follows. Bonvilston - transcribed as Brompton My grandfather Osmond had been mixed up with his wife's details and was down as a female ..... My gt. grandmother Bond - Badmnton transcribed as Bodminton [she was actually born in Wilts., but that's another story] My gt. grandfather Coles put down Brompton Ralph as his birthplace [where he lived most of his life] but in all other censuses he was born in Stogumber, not far away. Some of the entries I only managed to find by entering the names of other members of the families. WENDY

Even if you don't have full access to the 1911 census, you can now get birth places from https://www.familysearch.org/search/ if you know the place where the people you are researching were living at the time of the 1911 census. For instance putting Charlotte Harries Llangeinor from 1911 to 1911 into the search brings up my 2x great-grandmother's birth place of Bristol. Putting Payne Llangeinor from 1911 to 1911 into the search brings up Temple Cloud, Somersetshire as the birthplace of my great-grandfather, Sidney Payne. My family lived in Pontycymmer, Llangeinor near Bridgend, Glamorgan at the time of the 1911 census. -- Josephine Jeremiah www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Hello I was sent a photo of a grave of Sarah Jones of Blackpill Swansea from some kind member. I lost all my files when I had to reformat my computer and I am wondering if that person could re send It to me please. Many thanks Regards Karen.