Hello list: I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these two, or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. 1857 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the Parish of Pentyrch in the County of Glamorgan #126, 3 January 1857 Thomas Henry Rowe, age 23, bachelor, miner Ty:yn:Waun father John Rowe, miner Mary Ann Spencer, age 21, spinster, ----- Tongwyndollaes, Eglwynsilan father James Spencer, hammerman Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar Thanks to all for your attention to my request. Rosamond Maryland, USA

It has been a while since the last one but I have not been sitting back on my laurels. One of the issues when the the site was archived by the UK Web Archive was that it could not deal with the form-based menu selections on the main content page or the ministers' database page. I have now, hopefully, addressed this (will not know until the next archive run) by redesigning those menus - I think they are now even easier to follow. The following updates are also in place: 1. There are three more chapels, unfortunately with only current photographs a) A Primitive Methodist, Treherbert b) Horeb Welsh Wesleyan, Ystrad and c) Tabernacle Welsh Methodist, Clydach Vale. 2. Membership statistics (on a circuit basis) for the Wesleyan/Methodist denomination. 3. A new section 'Extra Content' for the chapels. There is only a small example of its potential at present - interior views of Horeb, Treorchy and Ebenezer, Tonypandy plus some alternative photographs which also show some of the original chapel buildings - Horeb, Treorchy and Bethania, Llwynypia. I will leave you to find the rest. I will add some more in the next few days. A further update is planned to correct some anomolies with the Wesleyan ministers since I now have some additional information. See you at www.pillars-of-faith.com

I know it's not Welsh or Glam history, but I also know there are several folks here with Irish connections, too. Anyway, it's an interesting article about how archaeologists are piecing together the immigrant experience in the US. Read full article and see small photo here: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/06/110624111934.htm Intro: Hidden Lives of Baltimore's Irish Immigrants Unearthed for First Time ScienceDaily (June 25, 2011) — An archaeological team from the University of Maryland is unearthing a unique picture of the Baltimore-area's early Irish immigrants -- of city children taught to read and write at home before widespread public education and child labor laws, as well as insular rural residents who resisted assimilation for one hundred years. There is similar research being done on a Welsh slate community in Delta, Pennsylvania, but when I was there talking to the archaeologists, they weren't so interested in the Welsh, as just seeing what artifacts they could find. You can see the slate workers' cottages they are restoring here: http://deltawelshheritage.com/quarrymens_cottages_coulsontown Mona

David I remembered seeing this family mentioned on the list before Searching the list archives found http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/glamorgan/2009-08/1251379666 which is one of three replies to your previous query sent to the list in August 2009, when you found that Annie was travelling to visit David J. JONES in USA on a shipping list. Alltwen was part of Cilybebyll parish. There are no less than 166 references to Cilybebyll in the Glamorgan list archives, including a different JONES family. Have you looked at the other censuses for this family? Jeff list admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Railton" <railton.david@btinternet.com> To: <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 7:47 PM Subject: [GLA] Jones - Cilypebill >I am interested in this family shown in the 1881 census: > > > > David JONES Head M Male 58 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales > > Black Smith > > Gwen JONES Wife M Female 50 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales > > Black Smith Wife > > Gwen JONES Daur U Female 14 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales > > Scholar > > Annie JONES Daur U Female 12 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales > > Scholar > > David J. JONES Son U Male 8 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales > > Scholar > > > > In particular I am interested in finding what became of Annie and David J > Jones after 1881. > > > > Does anyone know of this family? > > > > David > > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Graham There is a web site http://www.traveline-cymru.info/ which allows you to plan your journey anywhere within Wales by bus or train or both. You start off by typing your own postcode and then the postcode of where you want to get to, the day and the time. It looks as if CF64 1TN will make a good postcode to get to the Barrage South Waterbus Stop. There is also a waterbus that goes from near the Senedd (Welsh Assembly Government building) across Cardiff Bay ( the big pond that used to be the tidal estuary of the rivers Taff and Ely) to the stop at Penarth end of the Barrage. If you don't like the smell of diesel engines you might not like travelling on it. There seems to be an 89B bus that goes once every two hours to near the Penarth end of the barrage from the centre of Cardiff. The nearest bus stop seems to be Penarth Portway(E) Jeff Original Message ----- From: "robert williams" <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 5:37 PM Subject: [GLA] Flat Holme & C My Thanks to Josephine for the information as to where the Boat Stop is. Now all we need to know is what Bus we catch to get to it? Kevin,As far as I know the library DOES open on a saturday. I expect its their busiest day of the week? graham From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

Can anyone help me please,I have a school report dated 1868, of my great grandfathers, who attended thistleboon acadamy.It is so impressive, both that it is written in script, on vellum, and also for the subjects he studied, together with his grades,I would love to discover more about the acadamy, and any information about him.He is described as “master Horner”, and the report is his mid-term report for that year,I believe his christian name to be Charles, or Henry, or maybe both. Any Help would be Very much appriciated, thanks.....R.E.Evans, e mail: raytherep@hotmail.com

I am interested in this family shown in the 1881 census: David JONES Head M Male 58 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales Black Smith Gwen JONES Wife M Female 50 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales Black Smith Wife Gwen JONES Daur U Female 14 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar Annie JONES Daur U Female 12 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar David J. JONES Son U Male 8 Cilypebill, Glamorgan, Wales Scholar In particular I am interested in finding what became of Annie and David J Jones after 1881. Does anyone know of this family? David

My Thanks to Josephine for the information as to where the Boat Stop is. Now all we need to know is what Bus we catch to get to it? Kevin,As far as I know the library DOES open on a saturday. I expect its their busiest day of the week? graham From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff.        Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

This is telling 'em ! * "What was the care that you sent us these papers in English instead of Welsh. We believe that our Language ought to be loved by every heart that can talk it. We think is is the best Language now in the whole earth, and if you cant talk Welsh there we can talk English here. We love our dear Language and we like to have every paper belonging to us in Welsh." Daniel Jones, Minister. Hermon, Calvinistic Methodists, Llandegai (CAE) Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html

To all who answered my query: Thank you. I rarely visit Cardiff these days, buit shall certainly try to make the trip out next time I am in our nation's capital. Hugh

On Sat, 25 Jun 2011 19:27:43 +0100, robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks to Josephine for the information on the Flatholm trips. > I see the boat goes from the South Barrage. > Where ever that is? Hi Robert, There's a photograph of the sign for the South Barrage Water Bus Stop plus a map of the location on the following web page: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1585665 It's at the southern end of the Cardiff Bay Barrage near the entrance to Penarth Marina. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah The Glamorganshire Canal www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

Thanks to Josephine for the information on the Flatholm trips. I see the boat goes from the South Barrage. Where ever that is? And how does one get to it? Someone else says it goes from Penarth? But where in Penarth? Possibly the Marina? Where's that? I see the cost for the Boat Trip is 50 quid for 2 adults and 2 kids. The South Wales Echo ran a story in todays edition. They were more interested in the New Pub thats opened there. They didn't show where you catch the boat either. Presumably,They expect Visitors to "Swim Over?" I for one wouldn't fancy doing that! Not after a few pints that is! Cheers,Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

In a message dated 25/06/2011 08:21:33 GMT Daylight Time, glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com writes: Bristol Channel Boat Race Between Pilot Boats. 6 photo's on pages 8 & 9. Dated Friday 28 September 1906. Cardiff Regatta Pilot Boats 6 photo's & Reports page 7. More Photo's on pages 10 & 11,and page 14.Dated 16th;of August 1906. Hi Graham Thanks for this, now all I need to do is find time to get down there. Is the library still open on Saturdays. Regards Phil

Hi Listers, In an off-list message, my attention has been drawn to John H. Brown's book, The Valley of the Shadow An account of Britain's worst mining disaster: the Senghenydd explosion. I felt sure that we must have a copy of this book so searched in the Welsh section of our bookshelves, but could not find it. Then I turned around and there it was behind me with the Bristol books within arm's reach! The book was first published in 1981. Our copy is a second edition, reset with minor corrections, which was published in 2009 by Alun Books, Port Talbot. Looking for where copies of the book can be obtained, I came across the following web page on the Aber Valley Heritage Centre: http://www.thevalleys.co.uk/site/attractions/aber-valley-heritage-centre-p112891 Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah The Glamorganshire Canal www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

The Lewis Alexander now leaves form Penarth.   http://www.flatholmisland.com/content.asp?nav=3824&parent_directory_id=3813   Frances

On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 12:16:05 +0100, <WLawday@aol.com> wrote: > The boat to Flat Holme goes from Barry, or it did a few years back, and > is named 'The Lewis Alexander' after the late local channel pilot of > that name [my gran's cousiin]. On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:28:16 +0100, <PRode18115@aol.com> wrote: > I believe there is a service out to the island but not sure where it > sails from, at a guess probably Barry. > The boat used is named after one of the more famous of the Bristol > Channel pilots, ie LEWIS ALEXANDER Hi Listers, The following web page gives information about visiting Flat Holm: http://www.flatholmisland.com/content.asp?nav=3824&parent_directory_id=3813 This web page notes that all trips depart from the Barrage South Water Bus Stop, situated in the Penarth Marina. As Wendy and Phil have said, the boat is called the Lewis Alexander. There is information about the Lewis Alexander and a photograph of the boat on the same page. Josephine -- Josephine Jeremiah The Glamorganshire Canal www.ianandjo.dsl.pipex.com

I thought this may be of interest: http://www.saysomethinginwelsh.com/home/ I've just done the first lesson and it seems to be a good course for free. Have fun! Bryan.

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Hi Phil and all. I was in Cardiff Library yesterday morning. I spent a few hours looking through the last 2 volumes of "The South Wales Graphic"Magazine's. These were printed between the years 1902[vol;1 no;1]and 1906. The Library has them in Bound Volumes numbered 1 to 6. Yesterday I was looking through the 1905-6 issues. And noted the following on "Pilot's"............. Bristol Channel Boat Race Between Pilot Boats. 6 photo's on pages 8 & 9. Dated Friday 28 September 1906. Cardiff Regatta Pilot Boats 6 photo's & Reports page 7. More Photo's on pages 10 & 11,and page 14.Dated 16th;of August 1906. Flatholme Photo's of pages 8 & 9 Thursday 23 august 1906. Penarth Club Regatta page 8, 9 photo's 6th;September 1906. Opening Ceremony of Newport Transporter Bridge page 15 of 13 September 1906. For Rugby fans,Report's and photo's of the New Zealand All Blacks getting Beat,The photo's & Reports on pages 10,11,13,15, of 24th;December 1905 and 28th;December 1905. These Bound Volumes are behind the Counter in the Back Research room of The Local Studies Department,on the 5th;floor,Cardiff Central Library, Mill Lane Cardiff. Just ask the Librarian what volume you wish to see. Cheers Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

Thanks for the explanation Bob. That would seem the logical answer to him being a "Boatman". He was also listed as a "Fireman on a Steam Boat"in the 1881 census, when he took his 5 year old daughter,[my great,grandma]Florence Elizabeth Mary BOWEN,[1876-1966]over to Bristol to visit with his Father-in-Law Edward North COLLIN[G]S.[1818-1891] Although Llewellyn just happened to be Enumerated in The Cardiff Census for 1881 too! Cheers and thanks Bob. Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.