From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. --- On Tue, 28/6/11, robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> wrote: > From: robert williams <canton_cardiff_wales@yahoo.com> > Subject: 1861 lookup for CLARE > To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 28 June, 2011, 19:49 > Greetings.Could some kind soul please > look up this for me....... > > James Arthur CLARE born 1858 in Chepstow Monmouthshire. > [actually baptised 2nd'of January 1858 at Chepstow] > He is listed in Chepstow according to the index. > His parents were James Love CLARE and his wife Harriett,nee > ARTHUR[married > 31st;december 1855 at Chepstow. > James Love CLARE was a "Mariner"of Great Yarmouth Norfolk > at the time of his marriage. > His father was James CLARE a "Ships Carpenter"according to > his marriage lines.[from Forest of Dean  site.] > There was a William Love CLARE baptised 19 may 1834 at > St;Nicholas,Great Yarmouth according to the "Free > Reg;Website".the son of James & Anne CLARE. > Anything from the earlier censuses of 1851 and 1841 would > be welcomed. > > I am also looking for Harriett ARTHUR's parents in the 1841 > & 1851 censuses > These are Joseph ARTHUR and his wife Mary Ann > PRICE[marr;21/11/1819 at Monmouth]They should be in the > Chepstow area too. > > Many Thanks,Graham. > From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. >        Glamorgan F.H.S;#551. >

Hello Lyn I found Florinda Elizabeth BEAVAN's probate, 1500 pounds to Edith Florinda BEAVAN, died Oct 10th 1875. Please let me know if you want it, and is it alright to send it to you as an attachment. Doug -----Original Message----- From: Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 5:44 am Subject: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN I wonder if anyone can locate my BEAVAN family in 1851 census. Henry Williams BEAVAN and his wife Mildred lived mostly in Glamorgan at various abodes - Town Hill House, Townhill and Swansea in the early 1800s with a small stint in Bristol. Mildred died 19 October 1851 in Queen Street, Neath at the age of 72. She was born in Ireland. Henry was born about 1781 place unknown. I have never been able to locate them in the 1851 census. There is a Henry Beavan about the right age but he has the wrong wife and from memory children. Henry and Mildred only had one daughter Florinda born 1805 in Bristol who lived in Gloucestershire and they are not with her in 1851. Is there a census wiz out there who likes a challenge? It would be really great to find them. regards Lyn in Oz. -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lyn Have you found Florinda in the 1871?? She is living "on her own means" with Edward, Albinia and Elizabeth Baylis in Cheltenham Glou. Also with her is Edith Beaven, 21, born in Northern Ireland. On Ancestry.com for the 1871, Florinda is listed as "BEARAN", born 1807, Bristol. Regards Doug -----Original Message----- From: Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 6:57 am Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN Hi Doug It says wife of Henry Beavan Gentleman. Informant was Bridget Morgan present at death of the same address. There is a connection to a Morgan family but whether Bridget is actually a relative or not I don't know. Perhaps she might be the clue to finding them or that address. regards Lyn _____ From: rdmnanst@aol.com [mailto:rdmnanst@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:49 PM To: genielynau@bigpond.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN Lyn On Mildred's death cert, does it show her as a Widow? or Wife of Henry Williams BEAVAN, also does it show that she has a middle name? Regards Doug California, Missouri, USA -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Henry and Mildred BEAVAN have beaten me, Lyn. I can't find them anywhere. Dai On 29/06/2011 11:34, Lyn wrote: > I wonder if anyone can locate my BEAVAN family in 1851 census. Henry > Williams BEAVAN and his wife Mildred lived mostly in Glamorgan at various > abodes - Town Hill House, Townhill and Swansea in the early 1800s with a > small stint in Bristol. Mildred died 19 October 1851 in Queen Street, Neath > at the age of 72. She was born in Ireland. Henry was born about 1781 place > unknown. I have never been able to locate them in the 1851 census. There is > a Henry Beavan about the right age but he has the wrong wife and from memory > children. Henry and Mildred only had one daughter Florinda born 1805 in > Bristol who lived in Gloucestershire and they are not with her in 1851. > > Is there a census wiz out there who likes a challenge? It would be really > great to find them. > > regards > > Lyn > in Oz.

LOL Probably a good answer but reading it I wondered if they or she could have gone on Vacation to Scotland or the Channel Islands or France? The way the British census was taken that would make them missing for sure. Eliz On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 3:48 PM, <rdmnanst@aol.com> wrote: > >  Lyn > > I went through the whole of Queen Street, Neath, 1851.......I think Henry and Mildred were > taken by Space Aliens. > The only one of the group, as mentioned before was Bridget MORGAN, # 35 Queen St, by the \way > she is listed Rank/Profession/Occupation as "Lady"....she is the only Bridget MORGAN on > Queen Street, Neath, 1851 > > Regards > > Doug > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> > To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 6:57 am > Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN > > > Hi Doug > > It says wife of Henry Beavan Gentleman. Informant was Bridget Morgan present > at death of the same address. There is a connection to a Morgan family but > whether Bridget is actually  a relative or not I don't know. Perhaps she > might be the clue to finding them or that address. > > regards > > Lyn > > >  _____ > > From: rdmnanst@aol.com [mailto:rdmnanst@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:49 PM > To: genielynau@bigpond.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN > > > > Lyn > > On Mildred's death cert, does it show her as a Widow? or Wife of Henry > Williams BEAVAN, also > does it show that she has a middle name? > > Regards > > Doug > California, Missouri, USA > > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found > at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lyn I went through the whole of Queen Street, Neath, 1851.......I think Henry and Mildred were taken by Space Aliens. The only one of the group, as mentioned before was Bridget MORGAN, # 35 Queen St, by the \way she is listed Rank/Profession/Occupation as "Lady"....she is the only Bridget MORGAN on Queen Street, Neath, 1851 Regards Doug -----Original Message----- From: Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 6:57 am Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN Hi Doug It says wife of Henry Beavan Gentleman. Informant was Bridget Morgan present at death of the same address. There is a connection to a Morgan family but whether Bridget is actually a relative or not I don't know. Perhaps she might be the clue to finding them or that address. regards Lyn _____ From: rdmnanst@aol.com [mailto:rdmnanst@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:49 PM To: genielynau@bigpond.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN Lyn On Mildred's death cert, does it show her as a Widow? or Wife of Henry Williams BEAVAN, also does it show that she has a middle name? Regards Doug California, Missouri, USA -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Lyn, Bridget Morgan was at 35 Queen St. in 1851, but she was a visitor. The head of household was Eliza Jenetta Davies, a clergyman's widow, born Llanvihangel, Cardiganshire. There were two other visitors, Thomas Henry ENSOR and Agnes Griffiths MORGAN, born in Somerset and Swansea respectively. Dai On 29/06/2011 12:56, Lyn wrote: > Hi Doug > > It says wife of Henry Beavan Gentleman. Informant was Bridget Morgan present > at death of the same address. There is a connection to a Morgan family but > whether Bridget is actually a relative or not I don't know. Perhaps she > might be the clue to finding them or that address. > > regards > > Lyn > > > _____ > > From: rdmnanst@aol.com [mailto:rdmnanst@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2011 9:49 PM > To: genielynau@bigpond.com; glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN > > > > Lyn > > On Mildred's death cert, does it show her as a Widow? or Wife of Henry > Williams BEAVAN, also > does it show that she has a middle name? > > Regards > > Doug > California, Missouri, USA > > > > >

Dear Listers I'm seeking help in clarifying a comment that appeared in the obituary of my 2xgreat grandfather in September 1875 who was known as Edward Daniel of Morriston. It says 'We may particularly mention that Mr. Daniel was successful in winning the coal under Forest estate, Llansamlet, after scores of thousands of pounds had been spent in endeavouring to win the vein by other parties since the year 1807. Combating the opinion, and in spite of the views of several other eminent mining engineers, Mr. Daniel drove a diagonal drift through a very large “fault”, winning the coal at a comparatively small outlay, for which he received a very handsome testimonial from Mr. Calland, the proprietor of the colliery.' It would be useful to know the name of the colliery and the year. I know my 2xgrandfather was agent for Vivian & Sons so this must have been something he did on the side. I've googled unsuccessfully. The Calland papers held in the national Archives in Swansea do not appear to have any details on their mining interests. The only thing that has gone through my mind is that the writer of the obituary confused my 2xgreat grandfather with his father of the same name. He was also a colliery agent who opened and managed a number of pits such as Brombil and sunk the original shaft for the ill-fated Morfa Colliery. My 3xgreat grandfather who was always referred to as Edward Daniel of Taibach retired in 1848. Many thanks Edward

On 30/06/2011 06:50, karen wrote: > Hi > > I am still looking for my family of John JONES and Sarah JONES nee REES. I > have a headstone for these folks sent to me by a group member that > > Says they both died with their daughter also Sarah JONES age 5 in 1866. I > then decided to look for them on the 1861 census. > > The headstone says they are from Blackpill which I'm guessing is part of > Swansea. Correct me if I'm wrong please. > > I am having no luck in finding any of them on the 1861 census and wondered > if someone might also > > Check for me please. > > Any help would be most appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Regards > > Karen. > Where was the headstone?

I was reduced to searching by first name only, it usually brings the lost to light, but not today! Where were they in 1841, I am so bad today I can't even find them in that one. Eliz On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:34 AM, Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> wrote: > I wonder if anyone can locate my BEAVAN family in 1851 census. Henry > Williams BEAVAN and his wife Mildred lived mostly in Glamorgan at various > abodes - Town Hill House, Townhill and Swansea in the early 1800s with a > small stint in Bristol. Mildred died 19 October 1851 in Queen Street, Neath > at the age of 72. She was born in Ireland. Henry was born about 1781 place > unknown. I have never been able to locate them in the 1851 census. There is > a Henry Beavan about the right age but he has the wrong wife and from memory > children. Henry and Mildred only had one daughter Florinda born 1805 in > Bristol who lived in Gloucestershire and they are not with her in 1851. > > Is there a census wiz out there who likes a challenge? It would be really > great to find them. > > regards > > Lyn > in Oz. > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Lyn On Mildred's death cert, does it show her as a Widow? or Wife of Henry Williams BEAVAN, also does it show that she has a middle name? Regards Doug California, Missouri, USA -----Original Message----- From: Lyn <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jun 29, 2011 5:44 am Subject: [GLA] 1851 census help BEAVAN I wonder if anyone can locate my BEAVAN family in 1851 census. Henry Williams BEAVAN and his wife Mildred lived mostly in Glamorgan at various abodes - Town Hill House, Townhill and Swansea in the early 1800s with a small stint in Bristol. Mildred died 19 October 1851 in Queen Street, Neath at the age of 72. She was born in Ireland. Henry was born about 1781 place unknown. I have never been able to locate them in the 1851 census. There is a Henry Beavan about the right age but he has the wrong wife and from memory children. Henry and Mildred only had one daughter Florinda born 1805 in Bristol who lived in Gloucestershire and they are not with her in 1851. Is there a census wiz out there who likes a challenge? It would be really great to find them. regards Lyn in Oz. -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've read on other lists that blogs are becoming more popular with researchers ...... are posters using them and if so would/could you link here? Thought admin. could pass this. I started one and from what I have seen they are very useful. Regards.

Here is the marriage on Horner 8 MAY 1855 Groom ROBERT THOMAS HORNER Full age B Father ROBERT RYDER Bride ANN CROCKER Full age S Father JOHN Parish Church ST. MARY SWANSEA Regards Jennie Website http://welsh-genealogy-services.com/

In a message dated 28/06/2011 08:26:20 GMT Daylight Time, glamorgan-request@rootsweb.com writes: To request change of Digest Format contact GLAMORGAN-admin@rootsweb.com and be patient. Jeff. List Admin Today's Topics: 1. thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles (R.E.Evans) 2. Re: thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles (Jeff Coleman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 20:45:36 +0100 From: "R.E.Evans" <raytherep@hotmail.com> Subject: [GLA] thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <SNT127-DS536552CB6DF9970C152F5BB540@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Can anyone help me please,I have a school report dated 1868, of my great grandfathers, who attended thistleboon acadamy.It is so impressive, both that it is written in script, on vellum, and also for the subjects he studied, together with his grades,I would love to discover more about the acadamy, and any information about him.He is described as ?master Horner?, and the report is his mid-term report for that year,I believe his christian name to be Charles, or Henry, or maybe both. Any Help would be Very much appriciated, thanks.....R.E.Evans, e mail: raytherep@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:36:42 +0100 From: "Jeff Coleman" <Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles To: "R.E.Evans" <raytherep@hotmail.com>, <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <939FB40C664247B6AAC36B6943184B8F@JeffPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original A search of the 'Cambrian Index' at www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian reveals a great deal about the history of Thistleboon House as a privately-run school for boys. Your master HORNER was a pupil under Thistleboon's most well-known and successful headmaster, J.R.D.COLSTON. There are also some HORNER entries, but whether any of them are yours I don't know. I suspect that the marriage of Robert Thomas HORNER to Ann CROCKER, in June quarter 1855 in Swansea registration district, may be of interest to you, as there is a Cambrian entry about the death of Mrs Ann HORNER, daughter of a Swansea man called CROCKER. In 1861 Robert T HORNER was a Law Stationer ( born London) in Swansea with three sons aged 5,3, and 2, the latter two born at Coleford in the Forest of Dean. By 1871 Ann HORNER was a Lawyers Clerks Widow (sic) and had 5 sons aged 14 down to 8, the younger two born respectively in Swansea and in Bermondsey, London The address was in an affluent area suggesting that private schooling for some or all of the boys may have been an option. The only death of a Robert T HORNER in the intervening period in England and Wales was in 1866 in Cheltenham district. This appears to be the only HORNER family in Swansea at the time, and they seem to have moved about, returning to Swansea at intervals. If anyone else has information on this family, please make sure that you send both to the list and to R.E.Evans, e mail: raytherep@hotmail.com I suspect that this family may make interesting researching. Jeff list admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.E.Evans" <raytherep@hotmail.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: [GLA] thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles > Can anyone help me please,I have a school report dated 1868, of my great > grandfathers, who attended thistleboon acadamy.It is so impressive, both > that it is written in script, on vellum, and also for the subjects he > studied, together with his grades,I would love to discover more about the > acadamy, and any information about him.He is described as ?master Horner?, > and the report is his mid-term report for that year,I believe his > christian name to be Charles, or Henry, or maybe both. 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A search of the 'Cambrian Index' at www.swansea.gov.uk/cambrian reveals a great deal about the history of Thistleboon House as a privately-run school for boys. Your master HORNER was a pupil under Thistleboon's most well-known and successful headmaster, J.R.D.COLSTON. There are also some HORNER entries, but whether any of them are yours I don't know. I suspect that the marriage of Robert Thomas HORNER to Ann CROCKER, in June quarter 1855 in Swansea registration district, may be of interest to you, as there is a Cambrian entry about the death of Mrs Ann HORNER, daughter of a Swansea man called CROCKER. In 1861 Robert T HORNER was a Law Stationer ( born London) in Swansea with three sons aged 5,3, and 2, the latter two born at Coleford in the Forest of Dean. By 1871 Ann HORNER was a Lawyers Clerks Widow (sic) and had 5 sons aged 14 down to 8, the younger two born respectively in Swansea and in Bermondsey, London The address was in an affluent area suggesting that private schooling for some or all of the boys may have been an option. The only death of a Robert T HORNER in the intervening period in England and Wales was in 1866 in Cheltenham district. This appears to be the only HORNER family in Swansea at the time, and they seem to have moved about, returning to Swansea at intervals. If anyone else has information on this family, please make sure that you send both to the list and to R.E.Evans, e mail: raytherep@hotmail.com I suspect that this family may make interesting researching. Jeff list admin ----- Original Message ----- From: "R.E.Evans" <raytherep@hotmail.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 8:45 PM Subject: [GLA] thistleboon house acadamy, mumbles > Can anyone help me please,I have a school report dated 1868, of my great > grandfathers, who attended thistleboon acadamy.It is so impressive, both > that it is written in script, on vellum, and also for the subjects he > studied, together with his grades,I would love to discover more about the > acadamy, and any information about him.He is described as “master Horner”, > and the report is his mid-term report for that year,I believe his > christian name to be Charles, or Henry, or maybe both. Any Help would be > Very much appriciated, thanks.....R.E.Evans, e mail: raytherep@hotmail.com > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Rosamond If you try the link at the bottom of each message, namely GEUKI it will tak= e you information about Glamorgan. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/index.html >From here you can navigate to Glamorgan Towns & Parishes: Pentyrch and Tongwylais can be found on the following links: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Pentyrch/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Whitchurch/ Another link that may help you could be the BBC site Whats in a name. http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/whatsinaname/ Ty:yn:Waun or Tynywaun, I'm not too sure of its whereabouts. Mary Ann is living in New House in 1841 and 1851 by which time her father J= ames has passed away. Thomas H was born Guisseal, Cornwall and is in two other peoples trees. Gareth On Mon,27/6/11,rosamond.brown@verizon.net <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> wrot= e: Hello list: I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these two, or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. 1857 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the Parish of Pentyrch in the County of Glamorgan #126, 3 January 1857 Thomas Henry Rowe, age 23, bachelor, miner Ty:yn:Waun father John Rowe, miner Mary Ann Spencer, age 21, spinster, ----- Tongwyndollaes, Eglwynsilan father James Spencer, hammerman Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar=20 Thanks to all for your attention to my request. Rosamond Maryland, USA

Rev Horatio James Thomas, an evangelical churchman, was the vicar of Pentyrch from 1834 to 1880 and perpetual curate of Llantwit Fardre or over 50 years. Apparently he conducted all his services in Welsh. There was, however, a very strong Nonconformist population in both parishes. Ty'nywaun Row was demolished in 1955 and is in the area where the current shops in Pentyrch are. Image sent to Rosamond off list. Rosemary Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: [GLA] Assistance with identifying a marriage location > Hello list: > > > > I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If > anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these > two, > or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > 1857 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the Parish of Pentyrch in > the County of Glamorgan > > > > #126, 3 January 1857 Thomas Henry Rowe, age 23, bachelor, miner > Ty:yn:Waun father John Rowe, miner > > Mary Ann Spencer, age 21, > spinster, ----- Tongwyndollaes, Eglwynsilan father James > Spencer, hammerman > > > > Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the > Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar > > > > Thanks to all for your attention to my request. > > > > Rosamond > > Maryland, USA > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Rosamond I agree with Evelyn. Perhaps worth noting that Tongwynlais was originally just within Whitchurch parish, maybe spreading into the toe of Eglwysilan parish which adjoins. Pentyrch parish also adjoins, the parish church isn't that far from Tongwynlais, 4 or 5 km maybe. Not sure where Ty'n y waun might be - in that particular locality anyway These Genuki pages might be useful http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Pentyrch/ http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Whitchurch/ Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Clarke Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:43 PM To: rosamond.brown@verizon.net ; glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Assistance with identifying a marriage location I would think she was from Tongwynlais, Eglwysilan ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: [GLA] Assistance with identifying a marriage location > Hello list: > > > > I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If > anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these > two, > or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > 1857 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the Parish of Pentyrch in > the County of Glamorgan > > > > #126, 3 January 1857 Thomas Henry Rowe, age 23, bachelor, miner > Ty:yn:Waun father John Rowe, miner > > Mary Ann Spencer, age 21, > spinster, ----- Tongwyndollaes, Eglwynsilan father James > Spencer, hammerman > > > > Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the > Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar > > > > Thanks to all for your attention to my request. > > > > Rosamond > > Maryland, USA > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would think she was from Tongwynlais, Eglwysilan ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: [GLA] Assistance with identifying a marriage location > Hello list: > > > > I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If > anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these > two, > or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > 1857 Marriage solemnized at the parish Church in the Parish of Pentyrch in > the County of Glamorgan > > > > #126, 3 January 1857 Thomas Henry Rowe, age 23, bachelor, miner > Ty:yn:Waun father John Rowe, miner > > Mary Ann Spencer, age 21, > spinster, ----- Tongwyndollaes, Eglwynsilan father James > Spencer, hammerman > > > > Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the > Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar > > > > Thanks to all for your attention to my request. > > > > Rosamond > > Maryland, USA > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Rosamond, I can't help with the residence at the time of the marriage, but the Vicar's name was Horatio James THOMAS. I found out from looking at the 1861 census, where he is listed as Horatio J THOMAS, a Clergyman, living at The Vicarage, Village, Pentyrch, Glamorganshire with his family. Then on the 1871 census he is down as Haratio Jas THOMAS (spelling of name as seen on census) living at the same address. Then I found his death entry in Sept qtr 1880, listed as Horatio James THOMAS - he died aged 75. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <rosamond.brown@verizon.net> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 5:02 PM Subject: [GLA] Assistance with identifying a marriage location > Hello list > > > I have a marriage certificate from the GRO which is difficult to read. If > anyone can help with the residence at the time of marriage , of these > two, > or the Vicar's middle name, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Married in the parish church according to the Rites and Ceremonies of the > Established Church after Banns by me, H. ??? Thomas, Vicar > > > Rosamond > > Maryland, USA >