Hi Jeff Yes they are my Beavan's and their father was John Beavan, Vicar. John Beavan of Hill House did die but he was only in his early 20s which is why I wonder if the Vicar could also be a JP is he their father or one of the other Beavan family in Swansea that I can't tie in to. I am thinking the latter but ... :) Regards Lyn In Oz > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Coleman [mailto:Jeff.Coleman@ntlworld.com] > Sent: Thursday, 28 July 2011 8:07 AM > To: Lyn; glamorgan@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] John BEAVAN JP 1788 > > This 'Cambrian' article from 1804 may be the same person, or may not. > > 11 August 1804 HILL HOUSE, SWANSEA, TO BE LET.APPLY JOHN > BEAVAN,CWM GWYN OR ROBERT NELSON THOMAS,SWANSEA. P3 > > Hill House and Cwm Gwyn were both in the Cockett area of > Swansea. Robert Nelson Thomas was a solicitor > > I wonder if John Beavan died in the following few years: > 07 January 1809 FOR SALE:PROFIT RENT ARISING FROM HILL HOUSE, > SWANSEA.OCC BY HENRY WM.BEAVAN,ESQ.P3. > > 03 June 1809 P3.SALE:THE RESERVED/PROFIT RENT ARISING FROM > HILL HOUSE,SWANSEA,OWNED BY HENRY WM.BEAVAN. > > However it may simply be a coincidence of name and location. > > Jeff > >

I found this reference in the abstracts of the Bath Chronicle 1093/1788 article:2 c Bath Chronicle 1093/1788 article:2 c 24 Jul 1788 Crime: small portmanteau from the Kingston Baths at Bath found on a suspicious person at Swansea 17 July 1788. Anyone with information contact John Beavan, JP, County of Glamorgan. Does anyone know anything about this John BEAVAN? Here is the link if anyone wants to search for their own. http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/leisureandculture/recordsarchives/georgian/Pages/d efault.aspx copy and paste the whole link or alternatively go to the BANES site regards Lyn in Oz.

This 'Cambrian' article from 1804 may be the same person, or may not. 11 August 1804 HILL HOUSE, SWANSEA, TO BE LET.APPLY JOHN BEAVAN,CWM GWYN OR ROBERT NELSON THOMAS,SWANSEA. P3 Hill House and Cwm Gwyn were both in the Cockett area of Swansea. Robert Nelson Thomas was a solicitor I wonder if John Beavan died in the following few years: 07 January 1809 FOR SALE:PROFIT RENT ARISING FROM HILL HOUSE, SWANSEA.OCC BY HENRY WM.BEAVAN,ESQ.P3. 03 June 1809 P3.SALE:THE RESERVED/PROFIT RENT ARISING FROM HILL HOUSE,SWANSEA,OWNED BY HENRY WM.BEAVAN. However it may simply be a coincidence of name and location. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <genielynau@bigpond.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:17 PM Subject: [GLA] John BEAVAN JP 1788 >I found this reference in the abstracts of the Bath Chronicle > > 1093/1788 article:2 c Bath Chronicle 1093/1788 article:2 c 24 Jul 1788 > Crime: small portmanteau from the Kingston Baths at Bath found on a > suspicious person at Swansea 17 July 1788. Anyone with information contact > John Beavan, JP, County of Glamorgan. > > Does anyone know anything about this John BEAVAN? > > Here is the link if anyone wants to search for their own. > > http://www.bathnes.gov.uk/leisureandculture/recordsarchives/georgian/Pages/d > efault.aspx > > copy and paste the whole link or alternatively go to the BANES site > > regards > > Lyn > in Oz.

The National Library of Wales would be helpful. http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=121 Doug California, Missouri, USA -----Original Message----- From: Wendy <oziewoo@bigpond.net.au> To: Glamorgan List <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jul 27, 2011 7:45 pm Subject: [GLA] Welsh Wills Dear Listers Can someone please tell me where or if I can find digitised copies of Welsh Wills after 1858. Not Probate indexes, but the actual Will? Cheers Wendy Australia -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I hope this is the correct address, as the series of forwarded mails include so many it just becomes too confusing, maybe all the additional addresses could get deleted before forwarding to make life easier?  Anyway if this lady in Canada wishes to get in touch about this family what do we do next?  Do I get her addy (which appears to be the only one not included in the mails I have received)?  Or does she get mine, because quite frankly continuing the correspondence via this web site seems superfluous.  D.T-F

Does a plan of the burial plots of St Catwgs Gelligaer graveyard exist? I am particularly interested in the Morgan burial plot 99 the grave of my grandparents and uncle buried 1923,1925 and 1918. Any assistance to plot 99's positioning prior to my visit this weekend will be most helpful. Leon Morgan

Have you been in touch with Meredith McFadden at aubrey@one-name.org? She may have come across this family - and even if she hasn't she would be very interested to make contact with you. Best wishes Margaret Wales Representative, The Guild of One-Name Studies

Hello all: I'm watching with interest..I am from Canada..have Bryants relations in Bargoed...as well as Wells and was on vacation in Wales last May..Not sure if I talked to Desiree before. Please contact me. Thanks Evelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Dipple" <tadip44@cinci.rr.com> To: "'Gareth Morgan'" <morgangareth36@yahoo.co.uk>; "'Glam'" <glamorgan-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Herbert Bryant of Bargoed > Desiree -It maybe the same lady who was from Canada who I gave an address > in > Maesycwmmer to contact, while she was on vacation in Wales - probably last > year. > Regards - Terry > t

Desiree -It maybe the same lady who was from Canada who I gave an address in Maesycwmmer to contact, while she was on vacation in Wales - probably last year. Regards - Terry -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Gareth Morgan Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:59 AM To: Glam Subject: Re: [GLA] Herbert Bryant of Bargoed Hello Desiree If you click on the mailing list link at the bottom of the message and do a search for Herbert Bryant, it will give you 1-8 of 8 matches from 37,931,817 documents going back to 2004. I find this often overlooked resource very handy. Gareth On Tue, 26/7/11, Desiree Thorpe-Fairall <dayzeerae@rocketmail.com> wrote: While searching for some unrelated information about my step-grandfather, Mr Herbert Bryant of Bargoed I came across a request from someone I believe from USA requesting information about him and his siblings. Mr Herbert Bryant was the father of my mothers second husband and I have always considered him to be my grandad. I have many memories of him and two of his sisters Edna and Hilda, and of his father. If the person who was looking for information is still doing so they can get in touch with me on this e-mail address. -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Thanks to Eliz for looking at deaths in America. I should have mentioned my Robert BURNELL was born/baptised in 1756 in Newton Nottage,The son of Richard BURNELL and his wife Jennett,nee CRADOCK. Thanks to a help-mate on the list,I now have Robert BURNELL's "Will" which he made out in january 1825 just prior to his trip to America. The "Will"was however not "Proved"until 1856 in the Prerogative Court Of Canterbury. I don't know why this delay was for? But it Does confirm most of what I had already Traced amongst my Family History. As it mentions his Daughter Margaret REES and her husband Rees REES,who were my father's-father's-father's-mother's-Parents. I Learnt about this "Will"from the "National Archives Site"in London, on-line. Cheers Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

Hello Desiree If you click on the mailing list link at the bottom of the message and do a search for Herbert Bryant, it will give you 1-8 of 8 matches from 37,931,817 documents going back to 2004. I find this often overlooked resource very handy. Gareth On Tue, 26/7/11, Desiree Thorpe-Fairall <dayzeerae@rocketmail.com> wrote: While searching for some unrelated information about my step-grandfather, Mr Herbert Bryant of Bargoed I came across a request from someone I believe from USA requesting information about him and his siblings. Mr Herbert Bryant was the father of my mothers second husband and I have always considered him to be my grandad. I have many memories of him and two of his sisters Edna and Hilda, and of his father. If the person who was looking for information is still doing so they can get in touch with me on this e-mail address.

Hi list I am just wondering if there's anyone out there who is researching the family of Morgan Morgan, born 1821 in Llangadog. I am pretty sure that it is his brother, David Morgan (1802) Llangadog who is his brother and my direct ancestor; there are also two other brothers, Joseph (1803) and Thomas (1811) They all seem to end up in Llanguig around the Neath Canal in and around Gelli Fowy Fach/Canol - working either as farmers or bargemen. Margaret Williams (1772, Carmarthan) his visiting her son Joseph Morgan in 1851 - but I've no idea who their father was. Of course, this should be recorded on Morgan Morgan's marriage cert to Hannah Jones in 1844 - if anyone has it (the other bros were married too early for registration). If anyone has any links with this family or detailed marriage info for Llanguig (parents are not listed on the GFHS fiche), I@d love to hear from you - otherwise, I'll have to fork out for a certificate! Many thanks Stephanie

While searching for some unrelated information about my step-grandfather, Mr Herbert Bryant of Bargoed I came across a request from someone I believe from USA requesting information about him and his siblings.  Mr Herbert Bryant was the father of my mothers second husband and I have always considered him to be my grandad.  I have many memories of him and two of his sisters Edna and Hilda, and of his father.  If the person who was looking for information is still doing so they can get in touch with me on this e-mail address.

Hi, can anybody help me ? My gg grandfather was William Awbrey found in the 1881 census in Dulais higher recorded as a shoemaker. He was born in Cwmgrwach in 1817.He had a sister Mary born in 1813 and baptised in st Cattwgs in cadoxton. Also a brother John, born out of county in 1820 (Llanfeugan) Their father Joseph had moved out of county to the Tredegar area.(he was a miner) I cannot find Josephs birth anywhere but know he married Anne John in Glyncorrwg in May 1812. There was a Joseph Awbrey born in 1784 in Cadoxton, one of illegitimate twins (the other being David) This Joseph however, died soon after. I believe my "Joseph" to be of the Cadoxton Awbrey's .I wonder if anyone has any suggestions.I presume his birth to be somewhere in the 1780/90's range My many thanks Rob Grey

Dear List, I'm interested in any references to the name HIGHLEY or HILEY in Glamorgan. I have been researching the ancestry of David HILEY who was born circa 1800 in Kidwelly, Carmarthenshire. He later moved with his family to Clydach in Breconshire, where his father was a refiner at the ironworks. However, they appear to have lived in Glamorgan in between because his sister Emi [sic - Emma] was baptised at the Wesleyan Methodist chapel in Merthyr Tydfil in 1817. Their parents were William Hiley and Emy [sic - Emma] Daniel who were married in Pembrey (Carms. in 1799). William was a forgeman of Kidwelly. I have found a marriage bond (1748) for William Highley, a forgeman of Aberavon who wished to married Ann Hopkins of Pyle & Kenfig. His name and the occupation suggests a link with the later William of Kidwelly, perhaps his father or grandfather. The Highley/Hiley family is said to be of German origin. They were allegedly brought over to England for their skills in metalworking, first at the Tintern wire works in the mid-17th century, but this is unconfirmed. However, most of the Highleys/Hileys were forgemen and refiners, even including some Highleys I have found in the Forest of Dean in the mid-18th century. Thanks, James

I don't know what made the mention of "Cinderella"on the list amongst other Disney characters,But it reminded me of one of my Flock. I wrote an article in one of the back issues of Glamorgan Family History Society's Journal no;52 of December 1998. It was to do with my DAVIES family history, who were from Oystermouth,or Mumbles in the Gower. I had a problem with fathoming out which of two families that I found in the Parish Registers,and the census returns were mine? Both head's of the households were called John DAVIES, Both of them had a Wife named Jane. Both of them had a son named Charles,and both of these Charles were of the correct age to be my Great,Great,Grandfather's. So which one was which? Then I remembered something that my Auntie Vera had told me all those years ago when I started out tracing my ancestors in 1982. She told me that my Great,Grandmother Margaret DAVIES[the daughter of Charles DAVIES] had a "Wicked Stepmother",and she hated her so much,she was going to run away to her Grannies house in Cardiff. I then found that one of these Charles DAVIES's had married twice. His first wife was Margaret GRIFFITHS,and his second wife was Jane BARRY. Both of these marriages were in Swansea St;Mary's.The first in 1855,the second in 1866. Both of these marriages had the father of Charles entered as John DAVIES a "Blacksmith". So Now I knew which one of these families was mine. As the other John DAVIES Listed in the Parish Registers and census returns had the occupation of a "Mason". Charles DAVIES first wife had died in Childbirth to my Great,Grandmother in Mumbles in 1865. She had 3 other daughters. Then Charles DAVIES,widower married his second wife Jane BARRY in 1866. Jane gave him 9 sons. I later found out who the "Grannie in Cardiff"Was too. She was Ann HOWELL,Formerly GRIFFITHS,Nee MICHAEL[born in Mumbles in 1802] who was aged 89 in the 1891 census living with another daughter of Charles DAVIES, Ellen Elizabeth DAVIES,[1856-1912]then the wife of William COULTHARD,[1854-1917] Ann was late The Licensee of the Pub "The Prince of Wales"at Mumbles in 1875.She took over the running of this pub from her late second husband Thomas HOWELL.[1797-1872] Ann HOWELL was my 3 x great,grandmother. Cheers Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

Hi Eve I suggest a pay-as-you-go subscription to www.192.com Very useful for helping to find people still living. Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Eve Ferguson I am new to this list but not new to Genealogy. I am looking for the children of Sydney Bernard Lloyd 1918-1973 and Cora Veronica Carter 1916-1999 All Cardiff District. Geoffrey C Lloyd 1941 Susan 1941 Russell J 1947 Jaqueline 1949 I hope SKS can connect me with at least one of these for a friend.

Greetings to all. The reason I asked about Monetary Values,is because my Ancestor Richard BURNELL,[c.1724-1811]sold a piece of land in Newton Nottage to Ann BASSETT for 430 pounds in 1772.[from L.S;HIGGINS book on Newton Nottage] His son,my 4 x great,grandfather Robert BURNELL, was left 200 pounds in his brother's "Will"of 1819.His brother being Cradock BURNELL[1751-1819]born in Newton Nottage,died in Savannah Georgia America. Which is why Robert BURNELL,[born in Newton Nottage in 1756]aged 69,went out to America in 1825 to I Suppose, pick uo his inheritance. Nothing further is heard from Robert, so I expect he succumbed to that long journey perhaps? His ship was the "South Boston",of Boston Mass; which I have some evidence that he actually arrived on that jouney out of Liverpool. There were only 2 passengers.Him and his brother in law Thomas JOHN. Would anyone have any knowledge on Deaths in America for that Early Period? Many Thanks,Graham. From:- Graham WILLIAMS,of Canton,Cardiff. Glamorgan F.H.S;#551.

G'Day Lynda, Suggest name has been registered back to front. If you look at FreeBDM for September Quarter 1883, you will see an entry for REES,Wallace Monmouth 11a26 Regards from New South Wales, where the sheep are big as Whales Allan

Hi Listers I am new to this list but not new to Genealogy. I am looking for the children of Sydney Bernard Lloyd 1918-1973 and Cora Veronica Carter 1916-1999 All Cardiff District. Geoffrey C Lloyd 1941 Susan 1941 Russell J 1947 Jaqueline 1949 I hope SKS can connect me with at least one of these for a friend. Thanks Eve (Canada now)