I have always found ancestry.co.uk extremely helpful and obliging. I am glad to learn that they refunded your money Viv. For others, do try the 14 week trial if you are not subscribed, but just make sure that you have a huge reminder somewhere to unsub within that time or even within 11 -12 days. It is a huge and wonderful resource to look through. Kind Regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vivian Edwards Sent: 31 July 2011 06:26 To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Refund Good morning Thank you all for your replies to my email about Ancestry free trail I have phone them and they have said they where sorry about taken the money from my account, and they will return my money to my bank once again thank you for all your help. regards Viv

Good morning Thank you all for your replies to my email about Ancestry free trail I have phone them and they have said they where sorry about taken the money from my account, and they will return my money to my bank once again thank you for all your help. regards Viv

Cefn works in Tythegston parish must be Cefn Cribbwr and ' the slip near Tondu' must be the Park Slip colliery, the site of a disaster on 26th. August, 1892. Howel Cuthbertson was son of a local landowner, a lawyer, coroner and a busy man with other roles . From the Cambrian Index. 30 December 1864 ELECTION OF CORONER,WESTERN DIVISION OF GLAMORGAN, AT NEATH - HOWEL CUTHBERTSON ONLY CANDIDATE.P5 05 January 1866 THE GUARDIAN FIRE & LIFE ASSURANCE CO.-AGENTS HOWEL CUTHBERTSON,NEATH. P4. 05 January 1866 NEATH BOARD OF GUARDIANS:HOWEL CUTHBERTSON, (CLERK);JOHN WILLIAMS. P5 18 September 1868 PENRHIEWTYN MANSION & ESTATE BOUGHT BY HOWEL CUTHBERTSON,SON OF LATE OWNER. P5. That's all I have at the moment. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "DAVID JONES" <evadlezah01@btinternet.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 10:37 PM Subject: [GLA] Suicide My Great grand father Rees EVANS died near Cefn works. His death cert states his death was registered at Bridgend. When & where died was 20th May 1867 before Tythegstone aged 37 informant was Howel Cuthbertson, the registrar was Richard Leyesbon. I found a report in the Bridgend Chronicle dated Friday May 24th 1867 which reads as follows:- ''Distressing Suicide- It appears that a man named Rees EVANS , was found hung to a tree near Cefn works on Monday morning last, a little after seven'o'clock.He left his house at an early hour to go to his work at the slip near Tondu, and was not seen alive afterwords. He was 37 years of age, nd has left a wife and five children to morn his loss. No cause has been assigned for the rash act.'' I would like to find out where he may have been buried, most likely in an unmarked grave. There are some discrepancies in the newspaper report, one is the statement that he left his house, this should have read that he left his lodgings, another is that it states he had a wife and five children this should read ' a wife and two children[His wife was with child at the time of his death which would make it three , the third child was not born until Dec]. So my main aim is to confirm that this is my relation. All I really know is that my Rees EVANS disappeared between about March 1867 when his third child was conceived and Dec when he was born. I found his wife and children on the 1871 census living with a William ROGERS and her three sons John,Pryce and Arthur all of which adopted the name ROGERS. The only death that fits Rees EVANS is the one above. Regards Di -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ellen, Sounds like Llangiwg church: http://llangiwg.com/llangiwg_history.html Rina http://www.a-glamorgan-family.com/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ellen Murray" <ellen.murray@sympatico.ca> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:52 PM Subject: [GLA] Gelligron/Pontardawe Church/Cemetery > Am newbie to this List and am hoping someone can help me. > > Am told that Family Members are buried in a Cemetery in > Gelligron/Pontardawe but unfortunately I do not have name of the > Church/Cemetery. Story is the Church had a clear East window so that in > the 17th/18th Centuries the Lepers could look in & watch Communion being > taken. > > Anyone familiar with this Church or story? > > Ellen

My Great grand father Rees EVANS died near Cefn works. His death cert states his death was registered at Bridgend. When & where died was 20th May 1867 before Tythegstone aged 37 informant was Howel Cuthbertson, the registrar was Richard Leyesbon. I found a report in the Bridgend Chronicle dated Friday May 24th 1867 which reads as follows:-          ''Distressing Suicide- It appears that a man named Rees EVANS , was found hung to a tree near Cefn works on Monday morning last, a little after seven'o'clock.He left his house at an early hour to go to his work at the slip near Tondu, and was not seen alive afterwords. He was 37 years of age, nd has left a wife and five children to morn his loss. No cause has been assigned for the rash act.'' I would like to find out where he may have been buried, most likely in an unmarked grave. There are some discrepancies in the newspaper report, one is the statement that he left his house, this should have read that he left his lodgings, another is that it states he had a wife and five children this should read ' a wife and two children[His wife was with child at the time of his death which would make it three , the third child was not born until Dec]. So my main aim is to confirm that this is my relation. All I really know is that my Rees EVANS disappeared between about March 1867 when his third child was conceived and Dec when he was born. I found his wife and children on the 1871 census living with a William ROGERS and her three sons John,Pryce and Arthur all of which adopted the name ROGERS. The only death that fits Rees EVANS is the one above. Regards Di

Thanks so much for your help Rina & Gareth, will check out both those Sites.... Ellen

Ellen That would be the parish church - Llangiwg. See the entry on the Chapels and churches section of my Cwmgors./Waun site http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Chapels.html#Llangiwg Gareth Genuki Wales http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/ Help Page http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html Cwmgors/Waun http://www.tytwp.plus.com/Waun/Waun.html -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Murray Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 8:52 PM To: glamorgan@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Gelligron/Pontardawe Church/Cemetery Am newbie to this List and am hoping someone can help me. Am told that Family Members are buried in a Cemetery in Gelligron/Pontardawe but unfortunately I do not have name of the Church/Cemetery. Story is the Church had a clear East window so that in the 17th/18th Centuries the Lepers could look in & watch Communion being taken. Anyone familiar with this Church or story? Ellen -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Have you tried: http://www.historicaldirectories.org/hd/d.asp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Booth" <alanbooth170@btinternet.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:41 PM Subject: [GLA] Cardiff Pub 1891 > Hello Cardiff, > > Philip Fletcher is described in the 1891 as an Innkeeper. He is living at > 237 Bute Road, St Mary's, Cardiff. Could anyone with access to a Street > Directory for that year please advise the name of the Pub which may have > been his home also. Philip Fletcher also started a firm of Stevedores at > Bute Docks. > > Thank you and regards > > Alan Booth > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Cardiff, Philip Fletcher is described in the 1891 as an Innkeeper. He is living at 237 Bute Road, St Mary's, Cardiff. Could anyone with access to a Street Directory for that year please advise the name of the Pub which may have been his home also. Philip Fletcher also started a firm of Stevedores at Bute Docks. Thank you and regards Alan Booth

Am newbie to this List and am hoping someone can help me. Am told that Family Members are buried in a Cemetery in Gelligron/Pontardawe but unfortunately I do not have name of the Church/Cemetery. Story is the Church had a clear East window so that in the 17th/18th Centuries the Lepers could look in & watch Communion being taken. Anyone familiar with this Church or story? Ellen

Contacted off list. Thanks > > Thank you to those who replied to my query. I have the > correct person from the index from Ancestry and I don't mind > paying for a copy of the will, but it all looks far too hard > from over here. Thanks again. > Regards Wendy > Australia

Attention Listers with free trial Ancestry Problems. Mail me on my personal e-mail unless Admin would rather hear the solution and list accordinly Cheers Sue , still in LLantrisant

At 07:15 AM 30/07/2011, Wendy wrote:.... >it all looks far too hard from over here. Thanks again. >Regards Wendy >Australia Wendy, yes I agree it is difficult from Australia, but if you are close to (and a member of) a genealogical/family history society most generally have a service. For instance the Australian Institute of Genealogical Studies in Blackburn Melbourne have forms you can fill out and hand over your Aussie dollars. They will then do all the work for you and the papers will then land in your letter box in a few weeks. Victorian Genealogical Society the same, and I would think much the same in other states. Cheers Graham Melbourne

Hi Wendy What is the registry for your Will? It is easy to write to them if you have the details from the index. I can recommend someone to get it for you if London or nearby and a transcriber if needed. Contact me offline if you would like details. Regards Lyn In Brisbane Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Wendy > Sent: Saturday, 30 July 2011 7:16 AM > To: Glamorgan List > Subject: Re: [GLA] Welsh Wills > > Thank you to those who replied to my query. I have the > correct person from the index from Ancestry and I don't mind > paying for a copy of the will, but it all looks far too hard > from over here. Thanks again. > Regards Wendy > Australia > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN > Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful > links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html > and http://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you to those who replied to my query. I have the correct person from the index from Ancestry and I don't mind paying for a copy of the will, but it all looks far too hard from over here. Thanks again. Regards Wendy Australia

Good morning I have tried the free Ancestry free 7 days what a con I cancelled with in my 7 days, had a email from them saying that my free trail was cancelled with no payment. When to my bank to cancel the payment the bank told me I could not cancel the payment, after to wait till they send for the money then try to claim it back, have sent email to Ancestry but they keep bouncing back. Since then my computer crashed big time and have lost the email they sent to me with cancellation. So please do not sign up for the free Ancestry free trail and be con like me for £107.46 because it does not excites they will charge you for it, still trying to get my money back with out much hope. Regards Viv

I never bother with e mailing them. Question How can I contact Ancestry from the United Kingdom? Answer If you need to reach Ancestry for technical concerns, please click here. For all other concerns, you can contact us by telephone at 0800 404 9723 (free phone). Our available hours are Monday through Friday from 09:00 GMT to 22:00 GMT, and Saturday and Sunday from 09:00 GMT to 20:00 GMT. Our representatives will be more than happy to assist you with any questions or concerns you may have. If you are calling from a location outside of the United Kingdom, please click here to see a list of available contact times and phone numbers from your location. It does cost from a mobile …..not sure from a land line !......but it should not cost you £107 + They will have a copy of your cancellation e mail and will be able to re send it to you. Robert Alun Chick. -----Original Message----- From: Vivian Edwards <vivian1940@hotmail.co.uk> To: glamorgan <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 6:09 Subject: [GLA] ancestry ood morning I have tried the free Ancestry free 7 days what a con I cancelled ith in my 7 days, had a email from them saying that my free trail was cancelled ith no payment. When to my bank to cancel the payment the bank told me I could ot cancel the payment, after to wait till they send for the money then try to laim it back, have sent email to Ancestry but they keep bouncing back. Since hen my computer crashed big time and have lost the email they sent to me with ancellation. So please do not sign up for the free Ancestry free trail and be on like me for £107.46 because it does not excites they will charge you for it, till trying to get my money back with out much hope. egards Viv - To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com LAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at ttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found t http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - he South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages ttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and ttp://home.clara.net/tirbach/hicks.html ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Searching for any information on Greenberry HILL or his family.  Greenberry was b. in Glamorgan, Wales on 13 Feb. 1813 and married Susana CALLAHAN in Florida.  Greenberry and Susana both died in Perry, Taylor Co. Florida.  Kellie Hill Duke

Unfortunately, Wendy, no such luck. Indexes at most State libraries and genealogical libraries are the only things available either on microfilm or microfiche - then one has to apply to the appropriate probate registry for a copy of the will and if you get it wrong!!!! So, one needs to take considerable care in making sure you have the right person from the index. Fortunately, in the majority of cases, the place of last residence is in the index and the executor/executrix is named. I have had much fortune in obtaining these wills in the past which have led to some amazing further finds in family relationships. Not so long ago I received the will of a first cousin twice removed 1943 which led to the finding of the addresses of two of his first cousins and two of his nieces, all of which (apart from the first named) I had formed the impression they had not married. Was I ever wrong! This then led to the finding of married-in families and so it went on for weeks, finding, finding, finding. The mind boggles! All from one will! Then again, another will of 1893 led me to the finding of a great-great uncle's daughter's (five of them) married surnames which then led on to children and grand-children. Absolutely marvellous, and a bonus of this particular will was that g.g.uncle had left a house with full addresses to six of his children. Sometimes you can sort of draw a blank wherein the will is only one quarter of a page in that the deceased simply leaves it to his/her spouse with no further information, but in my case most of the thirty or so wills I have obtained have yielded good results. No wonder I'm poor! Last year there was an online query - from I think National Archives - asking if genealogists would be interested in viewing an index online of post 1858 UK wills. Naturally, I answered yes, but seems that there will be no digitising of the actual wills re. free online access for some years to come - only the index. Money, money, money, eh? Can't really blame them, costs the earth to keep up archives. Good luck Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Dear Listers Can someone please tell me where or if I can find digitised copies of Welsh Wills after 1858. Not Probate indexes, but the actual Will? Cheers Wendy Australia