Hello, somewhere recently I got an email saying that findmypast was offering free access to their records today through Sat. I am now on the site and being asked to buy credits to view records? Is there something I missed? Or did I jump to false conclusions? Thank you. Sue

The best place to find out about any location in most parts of the UK from a family history point of view is GENUKI , a FREE web site where local people have put together information. You can navigate from the home page to Wales, then to Glamorgan, the Glamorgan Towns and Parishes to find http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Neath/ and http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/CadoxtonJuxtaNeath/ Note that 'juxta' is simply a Latin word meaning 'next to'. By exploring these pages and the links on them you can find that St Thomas's was the parish church of Neath in 1820, though from the time St David's was built in 1866 I think St David's was treated as the more important building. If you look at the link to http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~waggy/villages.html you will see that in the early 19th century Cadoxton-juxta-Neath parish stretched the whole length of the west side of the Neath valley, while the east side of the valley, going up-river, was covered by the parishes of Briton Ferry, Llantwit-juxta-Neath, Neath (which was not much larger in extent than the town centre of Neath), and Glyncorrwg. In Cadoxton, not surprisingly, the church is dedicated to St Cadoc (St Catwg in Welsh) On all the Glamorgan pages you can see a section 'Places, villages, farms etc within.... parish' with a link to a detailed map in each case. There are facsimile copies of the registers both of Neath and Cadoxton at West Glamorgan Archives. There are also images of the registers on Findmypast ( a site where you pay for access). Glamorgan Family History Society has indexed the registers. There are a number of useful links on these Genuki pages which include some early information, so there is a chance that you might get lucky. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Edwards" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:55 PM Subject: [GLA] Church(es) in Neath 1820 and Cadoxton W. Neath in 1831 andMarriage records > Hello Listers - > > Forgive my ignorance, but I have marriage records for two sets of > gggrandparents, and I'm trying to find names of the churches in which they > were married. A local researcher sent me the pages on which these > marriages are recorded, but I didn't think at the time to ask for church > names. One is p. 195, "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Cadoxton W. > Neath in the County of Glamorgan in the Year 1831" and Roberts Edwards and > Sarah Williams "were married in this Church by Banns .......", etc. The > other is p. 43. "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Neath in the County > of Glamorgan in the Year 1820" and John Davies and Mary Lovat "were > married in this Church by Banns ...", etc. And while I'm at it, what does > "by Banns" mean? > > I know you all probably find the information quite clear, but I admit I am > clueless. Do I need to research what churches were in those areas in 1820 > and 1831? But then, if so, how would I know which church if there were > more than one in Neath and/or Cadoxton W. Neath? Yes, I'm sitting across > the pond scratching my head. > So - if sks would point me the right direction to find the answer, I'd > sure appreciate it. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Nancy Edwards > Georgia - US > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Eliz. I am familiar with that practice of Banns in the Catholic church but didn't want to assume it meant the same thing in the 1800's in Wales, 'cause one never knows for sure till one is enlightened. :) And my experience with the members of this List is that I'll know about the churches sooner rather than later. Appreciate your response. Regards, Nancy On Jun 26, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Eliz Hanebury wrote: > Banns are easy, they are announcements (three over three weeks) from the pulpit that a marriage is intended. This give anyone with an interest to declare the marriage couldn't take place. You can read more at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banns_of_marriage > > I wait to hear about churches in Cadoxton area <G> > > Eliz > <snip> > >

Cheryl the Royal Photographic Society is based in Bath - they may be able to help you. Sue ________________________________

Banns are easy, they are announcements (three over three weeks) from the pulpit that a marriage is intended. This give anyone with an interest to declare the marriage couldn't take place. You can read more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banns_of_marriage I wait to hear about churches in Cadoxton area <G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Nancy Edwards <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello Listers - > > Forgive my ignorance, but I have marriage records for two sets of > gggrandparents, and I'm trying to find names of the churches in which they > were married. A local researcher sent me the pages on which these > marriages are recorded, but I didn't think at the time to ask for church > names. One is p. 195, "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Cadoxton W. > Neath in the County of Glamorgan in the Year 1831" and Roberts Edwards and > Sarah Williams "were married in this Church by Banns .......", etc. The > other is p. 43. "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Neath in the County > of Glamorgan in the Year 1820" and John Davies and Mary Lovat "were married > in this Church by Banns ...", etc. And while I'm at it, what does "by > Banns" mean? > > I know you all probably find the information quite clear, but I admit I am > clueless. Do I need to research what churches were in those areas in 1820 > and 1831? But then, if so, how would I know which church if there were > more than one in Neath and/or Cadoxton W. Neath? Yes, I'm sitting across > the pond scratching my head. > So - if sks would point me the right direction to find the answer, I'd > sure appreciate it. > > Thank you. > > Regards, > Nancy Edwards > Georgia - US > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Listers - Forgive my ignorance, but I have marriage records for two sets of gggrandparents, and I'm trying to find names of the churches in which they were married. A local researcher sent me the pages on which these marriages are recorded, but I didn't think at the time to ask for church names. One is p. 195, "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Cadoxton W. Neath in the County of Glamorgan in the Year 1831" and Roberts Edwards and Sarah Williams "were married in this Church by Banns .......", etc. The other is p. 43. "Marriages solemnized in the Parish of Neath in the County of Glamorgan in the Year 1820" and John Davies and Mary Lovat "were married in this Church by Banns ...", etc. And while I'm at it, what does "by Banns" mean? I know you all probably find the information quite clear, but I admit I am clueless. Do I need to research what churches were in those areas in 1820 and 1831? But then, if so, how would I know which church if there were more than one in Neath and/or Cadoxton W. Neath? Yes, I'm sitting across the pond scratching my head. So - if sks would point me the right direction to find the answer, I'd sure appreciate it. Thank you. Regards, Nancy Edwards Georgia - US

Cheryl If the photo is in the carte-de-visite format (which it sounds like it is) there are all sorts of clues to the timing of the photo in the photo itself, from what I can remember of doing similar research. For example, even whether the photo has square or rounded edges can be significant, as can whether you can see the feet of the person in the photo, and whether the woman's hair is visible or not. And that's before you get to the style and fashion of the clothes. There are sites prepared by experts which can give you guidance. As you have obviously gathered, when the photographer was in business (and where) also helps. Please also bear in mind that some photos are later copied (I found one of my great great grandfather from circa 1859 which had been inadvertently reversed left-right in what must have been a later copying still in carte-de-viste format.) David Canberra > >> Hello, >> >> Can anyone help in dating a family photograph of an unkown lady dressed in >> an old fashion style. On the back is the name of the photographers studio >> Milson Street Photographic Gallery, address 44 Milton Street in Bath, with >> the name M Medrington which stands for Marcus. >> >> Is it possible to find out how many years this business was in Bath, are >> there any archives of Photography businesses? >> >> Best wishes >> Cheryl >> Kettering >> Northants. >> --

Hello, Can anyone help in dating a family photograph of an unkown lady dressed in an old fashion style. On the back is the name of the photographers studio Milson Street Photographic Gallery, address 44 Milton Street in Bath, with the name M Medrington which stands for Marcus. Is it possible to find out how many years this business was in Bath, are there any archives of Photography businesses? Best wishes Cheryl Kettering Northants.

If you Google around you can find fashion sites which give fashion by the decade and that can help a lot. There are directories but they are hard to work with There is a book Rambles around Bath which mentions the Photographer (if you can't make the link work search Medrington Photographer Bath) http://books.google.com/books?id=ftAuAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA1-PA15&lpg=RA1-PA15&dq=Medrington+photographers+Bath&source=bl&ots=sk_r0nzfzu&sig=GdkxP6Tl454MfT0ym9fIey4BgbY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=cNXJUYe3IdS34APC5oCYDw&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Medrington%20photographers%20Bath&f=false This gives some information about M Medrington - more about his sons http://www.amounderness.co.uk/charles_edward_medrington,_photographer,_liverpool.html Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Cheryl Williams <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone help in dating a family photograph of an unkown lady dressed in > an old fashion style. On the back is the name of the photographers studio > Milson Street Photographic Gallery, address 44 Milton Street in Bath, with > the name M Medrington which stands for Marcus. > > Is it possible to find out how many years this business was in Bath, are > there any archives of Photography businesses? > > Best wishes > Cheryl > Kettering > Northants. > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello, I am searching Bridget Grady whose maiden name may have been Moran, may have been Shea or there may have been two Bridget Gradys? I believe that Bridget Shea Grady is sister to my gr grandfather. John Grady married Bridget in Ireland and had two daughters there, Mary (born about 1846 and married Bartholomew Curran in Glamorgan) and Ellen (born about 1848 and married John Leary in Glamorgan). Both daughters and families, and Bridget immigrated to New Haven, CT around 1871. There were other children born in Glamorgan and/or Monmouthshire. What I am asking is whether anyone has parish records which might give mother's maiden name and godparents which might lead me to either Moran or Shea. I have found the birth of Thomas in my disk of births in Glamorgan ( seems to be St. Illytd's) and his mother is Bridget Moran. The other births I cannot find on this disk but they are in freebmd, as follows: John born Dec Quart. 1859 in Merthyr or in Bedwelty in Sept Quar. 1864; Mary (curious that there is another Mary!), born in Merthyr June Quar. 1859 and Bridget born Sept Quar 1857 in Methyr. I can find them on the 1851, 61 and 71 censuses and do not see another even remotely similar family. In 1861 they were living in Tredegar and it says that John and a Julia were born in Monmouthshire. I have never found any more about this Julia (I wonder if this could be the daughter Bridget?). In 1871 they are in Pennydarren with no Julia ( I can't find her death on freebmd) but with another daughter Mary. John had died by now. This make me wonder if the original Bridget Moran Grady died and John remarried Bridget Shea? Lastly I have a death certificate from New Haven, CT, giving her maiden name as Bridget Shea. I know this is complicated and I apologize but really would like to find birth records with mother's name for these children. Thank you. Sue

Hello Ann It nearly always takes two heads to sort things out 8-). Thanks for that. The earlier Rogers etc. of Welshpool and Buttington I have sorted according to census data and original parish registers - the Rogers of Wrexham have been a tad more difficult. I have come to the conclusion that Linda Rosella Rogers is where she belongs, with her probable mum Letitia Catherine Rogers and therefore does not belong to me. What initially had me puzzled and commenced leading me down the other pathway, was a newspaper obituary in the Wrexham Leader 1918 where Mrs Rogers, sister-in-law, and niece Linda were mentioned. And, there was only one Linda Rogers born in the district, i.e. Linda Rosella Rogers. Of course, journalists get it wrong sometimes as we readers do also. What appears to be more fitting now, after reading your input, is that the Mrs. Rogers at the funeral was really Mary Ellen Rogers from Australia, visiting, with her daughter Olinda who was born 1897. Journo obviously heard the Linda part of the name and transcribed it as such. So, not only can we not trust all census data, but newspaper reports as well. Makes for interesting searches! Thanks for taking the time to go back into earlier generations because that shows you care very much about genealogy. I had not gone further back on the Perkins line (leaving that for future research) apart from having Edwin as father-in-law to Percy, and who is also shown as Edgar in other records, so you have delighted me with the disclosure of one Frank Anderson Rogers, grand-son of Edwin. I have looked at the 1911 on FMP, which is very clear as no doubt the image on Ancestry is. It would appear that Frank is the son of Percy Anderson & Florence Mary Rogers nee Perkins - so, really missing from my tree as such. So, that looks like a win, thanks to you. I may have to invest in a certificate of birth. He may well have married a Prudence Hawkins in 1932 at Wrexham, so there is something further for me to follow up. Thanks again Ann Best wishes Graham Melbourne Oz At 09:38 AM 22/06/2013, Ann Ward wrote: >Hi Graham > > >I've had a look for these families, mainly on Ancestry. > >Percy Anderson ROGERS (1876-1907) was the son of John ROGERS >(c1840-) and his wife Margaret Ellen (c1844-). According to census >returns, John was born in Buttington, Montgomeryshire, and Percy was >born in Bersham, Denbighshire. > >Florence Mary PERKINS (1876-) was the daughter of Edwin PERKINS >(c1842-) and his wife Jane Eliza C (c1843-). According to census >returns, Florence was born in Welshpool, Montgomeryshire. Edwin was >born in Hereford, Herefordshire. His wife Jane was a British >Subject, born in France. According to a public member tree on >ancestry, she was Jane Eliza Clementine BECKINGHAM. > >Robert ROGERS (c1850-) was the son of William ROGERS (c1808-) and >his wife Martha (c1818-). According to census returns, Robert and >his father were both born in Brymbo, Denbighshire. Margaret was born >in Hope, Flintshire. I can't see any connection between the families >of Robert ROGERS and Percy Anderson ROGERS. > >In 1911 there is an 8 year old Frank Anderson ROGERS in the >household of Edwin PERKINS, father of Florence Mary PERKINS/ROGERS. >Frank's age is transcribed as 51 - I have to admit that the 8 is >written in such a way that it does look like 51. It isn't the only >transcription error for this household on Ancestry. The household is >added to the previous entry, suggesting that the Head is a William >OWENSH, at 15 Cuncliffe St, Wrexham. Edwin PERKINS, at 16 Cuncliffe >St, is described as Father instead of Head. Frank is described as >the grandson of the Head. Frank's place of birth is given as Wrexham >(Esclusham, according to the transcription). > >According to Freebmd, the births of both Linda Rosella ROGERS and >Frank Anderson ROGERS were registered in the Jul-Sep qtr of 1902 in >the Wrexham district, but on different pages. I found the death of >Frank Anderson ROGERS on Ancestry, registered in 1989. His date of >birth is given as 1st July 1902. The death entry for Linda Rosella >ROBBINS, in 1972, gives her date of birth as 4th June 1902. > >A public member tree on Ancestry, one of two named 'Parry Family >Tree', has a Linda ROGERS born in 1902. Her spouse is given as >Luther ROBBINS. Linda's mother is shown as Letitia Catherine ROGERS >(1879-1947). No father is named. Letitia is a daughter of Robert >ROGERS and his wife Martha. This would explain why Linda was in >their household in 1911. This tree does seem to be reliable, showing >dates which have probably come from certificates or written family >evidence. There are also photos of some family members - not Linda or Letitia. > >The most likely entry for Luther George ROBBINS in 1911 is that of >George, the 9 year old son of Frederick and Sarah ROBBINS living at >11 James St, Mountain Ash, Glamorgan. Freebmd doesn't show a Births >entry for a child with the first name of George, surname of ROBINS >or ROBBINS, between 1895 and 1905 in the Pontypridd district. >Frederick Charles ROBBINS married Sarah Elizabeth HUNTLEY in >Pontypridd in 1890 (Freebmd). Sarah was almost certainly the >daughter of Charles HUNTLEY and his wife Caroline ROBINS. One of >their sons was named Luther. It could be worth checking these families. > >Are you sure that Linda Rosella ROGERS was the daughter of Percy >Anderson ROGERS and Florence Mary PERKINS? Are you mainly >researching the ROBBINS family or the ROGERS family? I can send you >reference numbers for any of the above, off-list, if you'd like >them. Sorry if I've added to your conundrum!! > > >Regards >Ann > > >-----Original Message----- From: Graham Price >Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:49 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [GLA] ROBBINS & ROGERS, Pontypridd/Fylde, Lancs. > > >Hi all > >I have a little conundrum.... don't we all? I have one Linda Rosella >Rogers, born Wrexham district 1902, Denbighshire, Sep Qtr, 11b 265, >daughter of Percy Anderson Rogers & Florence Mary Perkins of 44 >Rhossdu Rd, Wrexham, and the only Linda Rogers shown in civil >registration to have been born between 1900-1904 (except for one >Linda Sarah Rogers born Suffolk 1902). > >Okay, so now I find a marriage (and again the only marriage - and no >early deaths prior) of one Linda Rosella Rogers to Luther G (George) >Robbins, Pontypridd district Sep Qtr 1922, 11a 1471. At this stage I >am being cautious as marriage certificates are expensive. The 1911 >census on FMP shows only one Linda Rogers who fits, living >Glamorganshire, Pontypridd, sub-district Llanwanno, 207 Penrhiwceiber >Road, with head of family Robert Rogers, coal miner hewer 61 & Martha >Rogers 62. Linda is not shown to have any relationship with the >above-mentioned, but is born 1902 Denbighshire, Brymbo (near >Wrexham). This certainly fits, but what she is doing in >Glamorganshire is anyone's guess. > >The deaths of Linda Rosella Robbins (nee Rogers) and Luther George >Robbins are found in the Fylde district of Lancashire 1972 and 1970 >with correct ages re. birth dates. There are three possible children >to this couple (taken from registration) Robert E, Pontypridd 1924; >Dilys, Pontypridd 1929 and Gwyneth 1935, Pontypridd. > >I cannot locate Luther George Robbins on the 1911 census (FMP) but >perhaps he is mistranscribed and may well be on Ancestry.com. > >I have a strong feeling about this Linda Rosella Rogers. Does anyone >think I am on the right track? > >Robert Rogers and his wife Martha were living at Brymbo (nr. Wrexham) >in the 1901 census and though it would be stretching the imagination >way out of beam, I have a Martha (maiden name also Rogers, so far not >found a marriage) born same year as this Martha, who could be great >aunt to Linda Rosella. Hmmm, interesting. May be just a coincidence. > >Any thoughts or help graciously accepted. > >Cheers >Graham >Melbourne >Oz >

Hi Graham I've had a look for these families, mainly on Ancestry. Percy Anderson ROGERS (1876-1907) was the son of John ROGERS (c1840-) and his wife Margaret Ellen (c1844-). According to census returns, John was born in Buttington, Montgomeryshire, and Percy was born in Bersham, Denbighshire. Florence Mary PERKINS (1876-) was the daughter of Edwin PERKINS (c1842-) and his wife Jane Eliza C (c1843-). According to census returns, Florence was born in Welshpool, Montgomeryshire. Edwin was born in Hereford, Herefordshire. His wife Jane was a British Subject, born in France. According to a public member tree on ancestry, she was Jane Eliza Clementine BECKINGHAM. Robert ROGERS (c1850-) was the son of William ROGERS (c1808-) and his wife Martha (c1818-). According to census returns, Robert and his father were both born in Brymbo, Denbighshire. Margaret was born in Hope, Flintshire. I can't see any connection between the families of Robert ROGERS and Percy Anderson ROGERS. In 1911 there is an 8 year old Frank Anderson ROGERS in the household of Edwin PERKINS, father of Florence Mary PERKINS/ROGERS. Frank's age is transcribed as 51 - I have to admit that the 8 is written in such a way that it does look like 51. It isn't the only transcription error for this household on Ancestry. The household is added to the previous entry, suggesting that the Head is a William OWENSH, at 15 Cuncliffe St, Wrexham. Edwin PERKINS, at 16 Cuncliffe St, is described as Father instead of Head. Frank is described as the grandson of the Head. Frank's place of birth is given as Wrexham (Esclusham, according to the transcription). According to Freebmd, the births of both Linda Rosella ROGERS and Frank Anderson ROGERS were registered in the Jul-Sep qtr of 1902 in the Wrexham district, but on different pages. I found the death of Frank Anderson ROGERS on Ancestry, registered in 1989. His date of birth is given as 1st July 1902. The death entry for Linda Rosella ROBBINS, in 1972, gives her date of birth as 4th June 1902. A public member tree on Ancestry, one of two named 'Parry Family Tree', has a Linda ROGERS born in 1902. Her spouse is given as Luther ROBBINS. Linda's mother is shown as Letitia Catherine ROGERS (1879-1947). No father is named. Letitia is a daughter of Robert ROGERS and his wife Martha. This would explain why Linda was in their household in 1911. This tree does seem to be reliable, showing dates which have probably come from certificates or written family evidence. There are also photos of some family members - not Linda or Letitia. The most likely entry for Luther George ROBBINS in 1911 is that of George, the 9 year old son of Frederick and Sarah ROBBINS living at 11 James St, Mountain Ash, Glamorgan. Freebmd doesn't show a Births entry for a child with the first name of George, surname of ROBINS or ROBBINS, between 1895 and 1905 in the Pontypridd district. Frederick Charles ROBBINS married Sarah Elizabeth HUNTLEY in Pontypridd in 1890 (Freebmd). Sarah was almost certainly the daughter of Charles HUNTLEY and his wife Caroline ROBINS. One of their sons was named Luther. It could be worth checking these families. Are you sure that Linda Rosella ROGERS was the daughter of Percy Anderson ROGERS and Florence Mary PERKINS? Are you mainly researching the ROBBINS family or the ROGERS family? I can send you reference numbers for any of the above, off-list, if you'd like them. Sorry if I've added to your conundrum!! Regards Ann -----Original Message----- From: Graham Price Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 5:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] ROBBINS & ROGERS, Pontypridd/Fylde, Lancs. Hi all I have a little conundrum.... don't we all? I have one Linda Rosella Rogers, born Wrexham district 1902, Denbighshire, Sep Qtr, 11b 265, daughter of Percy Anderson Rogers & Florence Mary Perkins of 44 Rhossdu Rd, Wrexham, and the only Linda Rogers shown in civil registration to have been born between 1900-1904 (except for one Linda Sarah Rogers born Suffolk 1902). Okay, so now I find a marriage (and again the only marriage - and no early deaths prior) of one Linda Rosella Rogers to Luther G (George) Robbins, Pontypridd district Sep Qtr 1922, 11a 1471. At this stage I am being cautious as marriage certificates are expensive. The 1911 census on FMP shows only one Linda Rogers who fits, living Glamorganshire, Pontypridd, sub-district Llanwanno, 207 Penrhiwceiber Road, with head of family Robert Rogers, coal miner hewer 61 & Martha Rogers 62. Linda is not shown to have any relationship with the above-mentioned, but is born 1902 Denbighshire, Brymbo (near Wrexham). This certainly fits, but what she is doing in Glamorganshire is anyone's guess. The deaths of Linda Rosella Robbins (nee Rogers) and Luther George Robbins are found in the Fylde district of Lancashire 1972 and 1970 with correct ages re. birth dates. There are three possible children to this couple (taken from registration) Robert E, Pontypridd 1924; Dilys, Pontypridd 1929 and Gwyneth 1935, Pontypridd. I cannot locate Luther George Robbins on the 1911 census (FMP) but perhaps he is mistranscribed and may well be on Ancestry.com. I have a strong feeling about this Linda Rosella Rogers. Does anyone think I am on the right track? Robert Rogers and his wife Martha were living at Brymbo (nr. Wrexham) in the 1901 census and though it would be stretching the imagination way out of beam, I have a Martha (maiden name also Rogers, so far not found a marriage) born same year as this Martha, who could be great aunt to Linda Rosella. Hmmm, interesting. May be just a coincidence. Any thoughts or help graciously accepted. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Hello, I don't know whether you have already found John Ellis and Thomas Ellis in the 1901 census, but they are boarders at 25 Pant Street. The family at 7 Pant Street consists of Henry Evans, his wife Blanch, five children and some boarders surname Horston. You can look at the street on google maps. Pamela -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] look-up request please (member) Hello to all If anyone plans to visit the Archives at Cardiff, I would be most grateful if they could possibly find time to look at the electoral register for: 7 PANT STREET, LLANGEINOR for 1902/3. My Grandmother Mary Ann Ellis gave birth to her daughter Sarah Ann in February 1902 at this address. I am trying to ascertain whether she went to this address to give birth or whether it was the family home, in which case I would hope to find Thomas Ellis her husband, and possibly his father John Ellis could also be there. I have a big gap to fill in before I find the family re-united in Treharris in 1911 census. When I was over in wales in May, I was able to consult the Bridgend workhouse admission/discharges and faith registers. I knew that my Father was born there in May 1903, I think because the medical treatment was free and Mary Ann is already in there early 1903, then I found an admission for David Vane, her son by a previous marriage, he was admitted 2nd Feb 1903 for reason 'deserted'. On 14th Feb 1903 Sarah Ann who would be just about 1 year old, is also admitted for reason 'deserted' which would lead me to believe that the father, Thomas Ellis, was not in the workhouse . Both children were discharged from the workhouse by the 'Mother' 10 August, 1903. Many thanks Gwen -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6428 - Release Date: 06/20/13

Thanks Graham, I have replied directly to you with attachments! Chris > Today's Topics: > > 1. Swansea St;Mary's Registers. (Robert Williams) > 2. St.Saviours,Roath baptisms & marriages ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 19:16:42 +0100 (BST) > From: Robert Williams <[email protected]> > Subject: [GLA] Swansea St;Mary's Registers. > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Chris. > Who exactly are you looking for in Swansea St;Mary's? > As I have these registers on Microfiche.. > Ive got them from 1631 to 1837 covering Baptisms,Marriages,and Burials. > ? > Then on another Fiche I have the 1838 to 1900. > But these are for Baptisms and Burials only. > ? > You would have to get any post 1837 Marriages from their local register > office. > ? > Please notice if you have any lookups in mind in the future folks, > Do not forget the "All Wales Lookup exchange". > Click on the county to see who holds what? > ? > My stuff is mostly for Glamorganshire. > Although I have some for Carmarthenshire. > ? > HTH;Cheers Graham. > > Graham Williams, > Glam;FHS# 551. > of Canton,Cardiff. > > ------------------------------ > >

Hello to all If anyone plans to visit the Archives at Cardiff, I would be most grateful if they could possibly find time to look at the electoral register for: 7 PANT STREET, LLANGEINOR for 1902/3. My Grandmother Mary Ann Ellis gave birth to her daughter Sarah Ann in February 1902 at this address. I am trying to ascertain whether she went to this address to give birth or whether it was the family home, in which case I would hope to find Thomas Ellis her husband, and possibly his father John Ellis could also be there. I have a big gap to fill in before I find the family re-united in Treharris in 1911 census. When I was over in wales in May, I was able to consult the Bridgend workhouse admission/discharges and faith registers. I knew that my Father was born there in May 1903, I think because the medical treatment was free and Mary Ann is already in there early 1903, then I found an admission for David Vane, her son by a previous marriage, he was admitted 2nd Feb 1903 for reason 'deserted'. On 14th Feb 1903 Sarah Ann who would be just about 1 year old, is also admitted for reason 'deserted' which would lead me to believe that the father, Thomas Ellis, was not in the workhouse . Both children were discharged from the workhouse by the 'Mother' 10 August, 1903. Many thanks Gwen

Could you please check if there are any baptisms for parents: James Phillips and Blanch Maclean. In particular, I am looking for William, b ca 1820 and Charles b Aug 1825 Thanks in advance. > As I have these registers on Microfiche.. > Ive got them from 1631 to 1837 covering Baptisms,Marriages,and Burials. > ? > Then on another Fiche I have the 1838 to 1900. > But these are for Baptisms and Burials only. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento, CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi, I am trying to find records of baptisms and marriages that possibly took place at St.Saviours church in Roath as the family lived nearby . Are there any online records or cd's available? The time frame is 1890 - 1900 for baptisms and after 1900 for marriages. Any advice much appreciated, Thanks Ann

Hi Chris. Who exactly are you looking for in Swansea St;Mary's? As I have these registers on Microfiche.. Ive got them from 1631 to 1837 covering Baptisms,Marriages,and Burials.   Then on another Fiche I have the 1838 to 1900. But these are for Baptisms and Burials only.   You would have to get any post 1837 Marriages from their local register office.   Please notice if you have any lookups in mind in the future folks, Do not forget the "All Wales Lookup exchange". Click on the county to see who holds what?   My stuff is mostly for Glamorganshire. Although I have some for Carmarthenshire.   HTH;Cheers Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Hello and thanks to Susan, Jeff and Lyn for your replies. So I take it that my friend would have to find someone to look at St Marys parish records, does anyone know where they would be held please? Thanks, Chris Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Howells and Walters (susan ashton) > 2. Fw: Marriage cert query (Jeff Coleman) > 3. Fwd: Fw: Marriage cert query ([email protected]) > 4. Re: Fw: Marriage cert query (Lyn) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 17:19:04 +0100 (BST) > From: susan ashton <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GLA] Howells and Walters > To: Jeff Coleman <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Jeff > > thanks for this info its very helpful. ?When its all but impossible to > physically visit the area the transcriptions are vital so its disappointing > when they get them wrong - I know its not an easy task to transcribe etc > but its a pity that having been told of the errors they have not amended > them. > > Sue > > > > ________________________________ > From: Jeff Coleman <[email protected]> > To: susan ashton <[email protected]>; [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, 16 June 2013, 15:38 > Subject: Re: [GLA] Howells and Walters > > > As St James's was not built until about 1870 (1867 actually), it has to > have > been St Mary's. I have previously reported to the list that there are some > batches of register entries for parishes in Glamorgan and Monmouthshire > which are shown on Findmypast incorrectly. > > See http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/ about the Church > Records. > There are errors on that page as well, I think, but the dates for which > registers exist provide a good indication of when the 19th-century churches > in Swansea were built. > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Swansea/StJames/ > says 1867. > > The Cambrian agrees > > RELIGION, ANGLICAN 26 July 1867 P5.FIRST BAPTISM & MARRIAGE SOLEMNIZED AT > ST. JAMES'S CHURCH,FYNONE.PRESENTATIONS BY MAYOR. > > Jeff > > PS if you find a 19th-century marriage said by Findmypast to have been at > Glantawe parish church, it was almost certainly at Llansamlet. > > There are also some marriages shown as St James's in Findmypast which were > actually at St Peter's, Cockett, Swansea > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "susan ashton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:10 AM > Subject: [GLA] Howells and Walters > > > Hi Chris > > there is a disagreement as to which church - familysearch has Swansea St > James - Glamorgan FHS has Swansea St Mary - but info is as follows: > > married 25th October 1831 > both of the parish > she was a spinster, he a bachelor > married by banns and both signed > witnesses James Evans and William Davies > > hope this helps > > Sue > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:17:09 +1000 > From: "Chris O'Grady" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [GLA] GLAMORGAN Digest, Vol 8, Issue 207 > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]om> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hello can anyone help with the location of a marriage certificate for John > Howells (born in 1809 in Lancashire according to Ancestry) to Ann Walters. > The marriage took place 25th October in 1831. The information is taken from > a photo of a Parish record on an Ancestry tree, but the certificate doesn't > state the name of the parish or church, the witnesses were William Davies > and James Evans. It's likely Ann and John were from Swansea. They possibly > had a son John born in 1837, and went to Australia at some stage where John > senior died in 1885. His occupation was wheelwright. > Thanks, Christine (Australia) on behalf of John and Ann's second Great > Grandaught > > >

Hello   Thank you for the interest in the above item, it has now gone to a good home   Thanks again   Peter