Rather than reinvent the wheel, this link will show you the various towns etc. within the parish. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Ystradyfodwg/ The only Marian (possible a transcription error) street I know of is in Clydach Vale. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 5:19 PM Subject: [GLA] Ystradyfodwg > Hi. > Can some kind lister explain the geographical size of the area called > Ystradyfodwg by place names. > Also I have an address from an 1881 census of just 68 Mariam > Ter,Ystradyfodwg,, where is that??. > Best Regards > James Morgan. > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Ed It could be your ISP blocking emails from Rootsweb due to Spam > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ed Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 6:57 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GLA] test > > Err, no Gwen. Postings appear on Rootsweb site but they've > stopped coming through to me. Clearly my test posting got > through to the list but I didn't receive it. Anyone know why > this should be? It's also happening with several other > Rootsweb lists I subscribe to. > > Ed > > _____ > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 06 August 2013 09:39 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re : [GLA] test > > > Maybe everybody on holiday Ed ;-) > > Gwen > > > > -----E-mail d'origine----- > De : Ed Thomas <[email protected]> > A: glamorgan <[email protected]> > Envoyé le : Ma, 6 Aoû 2013 10:27 > Sujet : [GLA] test > > > Not received any emails from list for a good few days. Just testing > > subscription. > > > > > > Ed > > > > -- > > > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > > - > > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful > links, may be > found > > at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > > > - > > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body > of > > the message > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful > links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi. Can some kind lister explain the geographical size of the area called Ystradyfodwg by place names. Also I have an address from an 1881 census of just 68 Mariam Ter,Ystradyfodwg,, where is that??. Best Regards James Morgan.

Sonya In Ancestry there is a 1911 census entry for an Edward Stidder (shown as ELWARD) age 30 living at 36 Newland Street, Barry Dock ... his profession is that of musician. His wife Gwendolin also 30 is a dancer ......... they are living with a Hopking (Hopkins) family. Given their professions & that of Ellen I wondered if there might be a connection. Helen "Walking the stacks in a library, dragging your fingers across the spines ~ it's hard not to feel the presence of sleeping spirits" Robin Sloan > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 00:01:56 +1200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [GLA] Looking for information on STIDDER / JONES > > Hello, > > I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction. > > I am looking for information on my maternal Grandfathers family. His > name was Harry STIDDER he was born in Glamorganshire Wales, immigrated > alone to New Zealand in 1929 and died here in 1990. > The information I have is from my mother and is quite sparce. > I have been told that his birth was never registered in an oversight by > the midwife who had 5 deliveries on the night. His Mother was born ELLEN > JONES and married a HARRY JOHN STIDDER who was killed in WW1 in 1916 > Ellen used to sing in the Music Halls in Cardiff post WW1 and remarried > and EDWARD MORRISEY in 1937 (I have found the marriage record for this > marriage). > My Grandfather lists her as his next of kin on his NZ WW2 enlistment > documents as Ellen Stidder of 66 Cowbridge Road, Glamorganshire, Wales > and I have the address of 2 Redlavar Street, Cardiff as being her final > residence until her death which was sometime around 1960. > My Grandfather also correponded with an uncle in Wales EDWARD STIDDER > who was still living when Ellen passed away but contact was then lost. > There has also been mention of relations in England by the family name > of GRIFFITH. > > I have searched through Ancestary UK the cencus and free BDM and public > member records and apart from the marraige to Morrisey in 1937 cannot > find matches for the Stidder men or Morrisey and there are so many Ellen > Jones that without some proper dates it is a pointless search. > > Any recommendations on the best way forward would be greatly appreciated > > Sonya Raw > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am going to presume that this is your Grandfather Name: Harry Stidder Gender: Male Age: 18 Birth Date: abt 1911 Departure Date: 6 Dec 1929 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand Ship Name: Tainui Shipping Line: Shaw Savill and Albion Co, Ltd Official Number: 124507 Master: W P Clifton Mogg I find it interesting, if irritating (no home address) that he and so many others are from the Salvation Army and all do farm work. Mostly I find it odd that so few Stidders are showing in the census when I see one is a RR worker and is shown in birth marriage and death records. Thinking bad handwriting. This is an interesting entry London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 Name: Harry Stidder Age: 4 Birth Date: 15 Oct 1880 School: Saunders Road School Home: 160 Portland Rd Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham Admission Date: 10 Nov 1884 Parent: William Reference Number: LCC/EO/DIV01/SAU/AD/014 Source Information: Ancestry.com. London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010. This collection was indexed by Ancestry World Archives Project contributors. Original data: School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911. London, England: London Metropolitan Archives. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Sonya Raw <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I am hoping someone can point me in the right direction. > > I am looking for information on my maternal Grandfathers family. His > name was Harry STIDDER he was born in Glamorganshire Wales, immigrated > alone to New Zealand in 1929 and died here in 1990. > The information I have is from my mother and is quite sparce. > I have been told that his birth was never registered in an oversight by > the midwife who had 5 deliveries on the night. His Mother was born ELLEN > JONES and married a HARRY JOHN STIDDER who was killed in WW1 in 1916 > Ellen used to sing in the Music Halls in Cardiff post WW1 and remarried > and EDWARD MORRISEY in 1937 (I have found the marriage record for this > marriage). > My Grandfather lists her as his next of kin on his NZ WW2 enlistment > documents as Ellen Stidder of 66 Cowbridge Road, Glamorganshire, Wales > and I have the address of 2 Redlavar Street, Cardiff as being her final > residence until her death which was sometime around 1960. > My Grandfather also correponded with an uncle in Wales EDWARD STIDDER > who was still living when Ellen passed away but contact was then lost. > There has also been mention of relations in England by the family name > of GRIFFITH. > > I have searched through Ancestary UK the cencus and free BDM and public > member records and apart from the marraige to Morrisey in 1937 cannot > find matches for the Stidder men or Morrisey and there are so many Ellen > Jones that without some proper dates it is a pointless search. > > Any recommendations on the best way forward would be greatly appreciated > > Sonya Raw > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Err, no Gwen. Postings appear on Rootsweb site but they've stopped coming through to me. Clearly my test posting got through to the list but I didn't receive it. Anyone know why this should be? It's also happening with several other Rootsweb lists I subscribe to. Ed _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 06 August 2013 09:39 To: [email protected] Subject: Re : [GLA] test Maybe everybody on holiday Ed ;-) Gwen -----E-mail d'origine----- De : Ed Thomas <[email protected]> A: glamorgan <[email protected]> Envoyé le : Ma, 6 Aoû 2013 10:27 Sujet : [GLA] test Not received any emails from list for a good few days. Just testing subscription. Ed -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Not received any emails from list for a good few days. Just testing subscription. Ed

Hope this helps.  From www.familysearch.org Name: David Evans Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 12 Nov 1846 Event Place: Llandeilo Fawr, Carmarthenshire, Wales Age: Birth Year (Estimated): Spouse's Name: Eleanor Evans GS Film number: Digital Folder Number: 004196326 The image is viewable on www.findmypast.co.uk but i do not have that site.  I think you can buy credits to view it but you won't necessarily find any additional information. Found these on freebmd Surname First name(s)  District Vol Page  ________________________________ Marriages Dec 1846   (>99%) ________________________________ Evans David  Llandilofawr 26859   Evans David  Llandilofawr 26852   ________________________________ Marriages Jun 1847   (>99%) ________________________________ Evans David  Llandilofawr 26871   And the only one that has an Eleanor was  Marriages Dec 1846   (>99%) ________________________________ Bevan Llewellyn  Llandilofawr 26852   Bevan Llewellyn  Llandilofawr 26852   Bevan Llewelyn  Llandilofawr 26852  Evans David  Llandilofawr 26852  Evans Eleanor  Llandilofawr 26852   Evans Elizabeth  Llandilofawr 26852 Jones Henry  Llandilofawr 26852 Phelps Mary  Llandilofawr 26852 Williams Edward  Llandilofawr 26852  Williams Elizabeth  Llandilofawr 26852   Could Eleanor been married previously and they are listing her married name or was it transcribed incorrectly?   Karen

A search on FReebmd shows : Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1845 (>99%) Jones Eleanor Swansea 26 746 EVANS David Swansea 26 746 Dec 1845 SWANSEA (The district Swansea spans the boundaries of the counties of Glamorgan and West Glamorgan) Erin -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary JR Gilchrist Sent: 03 August 2013 21:05 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [GLA] Marriage Cert from GRO I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not succeed, see below. Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague found in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. The obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as follows: Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and Ann Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy family unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen away by death. Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his forename as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid 19th century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As both were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire but this is not certain. They were in Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in Talley. The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I realize that people might not always relate the true year of their marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's parents. Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO service does not provide for this approach. Thanks for your thoughts, Mary -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As they appear to have lived in Aberdare, in the registration district of Merthyr Tydfil, I assume you have checked out the entry in December quarter 1846 in Merthyr Tydfil Registration District 26 680 Eleanor Jones and David Evans both appear. Clearly it is possible that they did not marry each other as there are a number of other names on the same index page. It could perhaps be that the date of their wedding anniversary was correctly recalled, but the actual year was one out. I suspect that, if this entry is relevant, the marriage was not in a parish church, but possibly in a register office or in one of the limited number on nonconformist chapels registered for marriages at that time. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Alderson" <[email protected]> To: "Stephen Emlyn-Jones" <[email protected]>; "'Mary JR Gilchrist'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 5:08 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO >I also found this one but, checked it at findmypast where they have parish > register transcriptions and he married Mary Phillips. > > Sheila > > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen Emlyn-Jones > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:20 PM > To: 'Mary JR Gilchrist' ; [email protected] ; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [GLA] [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO > > There is a David Evans marriage registered during the 4th quarter of 1845 > where the possible partners include Eleanor Jones. > The Registration District was Swansea (Glamorganshire) & the GRO reference > vol.26, page 746. > Stephen Emlyn-Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Mary JR Gilchrist > Sent: 03 August 2013 14:05 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO > > I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage > certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not > succeed, see below. > > Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague > found > in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate > from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. > The > obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as > follows: > > Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, > Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and > Ann > Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near > Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married > D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy > family > unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen > away > by death. > > > Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling > even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his > forename > as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid > 19th > century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As > both > were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire > but this is not certain. They were in > Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" > named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in > Talley. > > The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I > realize > that people might not always relate the true year of their > marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them > to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was > followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of > two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or > death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died > 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that > David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of > Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's > parents. > > Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage > and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? > I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and > could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO > service does not provide for this approach. > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Mary > > > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mary I would be inclined to go down the parish record route as you could spend a fortune on certificates and still not get the correct one. It is possible that the marriage record did not reach the GRO and is held by the local register office. The newspaper will have obtained information from family who may have only have thought that was the year of marriage. Maybe someone on the list will be able to help you with the parish record for the Chapel. Failing that you could contact Carmarthenshire Records office but they would probably charge for a search. Yvonne On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Stephen Emlyn-Jones < [email protected]> wrote: > There is a David Evans marriage registered during the 4th quarter of 1845 > where the possible partners include Eleanor Jones. > The Registration District was Swansea (Glamorganshire) & the GRO reference > vol.26, page 746. > Stephen Emlyn-Jones > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Mary JR Gilchrist > Sent: 03 August 2013 14:05 > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO > > I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage > certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not > succeed, see below. > > Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague found > in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate > from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. The > obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as follows: > > Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, > Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and > Ann > Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near > Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married > D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy > family > unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen > away > by death. > > > Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling > even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his > forename > as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid 19th > century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As both > were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire > but this is not certain. They were in > Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" > named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in Talley. > > The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I realize > that people might not always relate the true year of their > marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them > to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was > followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of > two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or > death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died > 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that > David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of > Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's > parents. > > Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage > and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? > I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and > could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO > service does not provide for this approach. > > Thanks for your thoughts, > Mary > > > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html > [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ================================ > Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I also found this one but, checked it at findmypast where they have parish register transcriptions and he married Mary Phillips. Sheila -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Emlyn-Jones Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 4:20 PM To: 'Mary JR Gilchrist' ; [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: Re: [GLA] [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO There is a David Evans marriage registered during the 4th quarter of 1845 where the possible partners include Eleanor Jones. The Registration District was Swansea (Glamorganshire) & the GRO reference vol.26, page 746. Stephen Emlyn-Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary JR Gilchrist Sent: 03 August 2013 14:05 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not succeed, see below. Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague found in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. The obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as follows: Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and Ann Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy family unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen away by death. Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his forename as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid 19th century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As both were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire but this is not certain. They were in Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in Talley. The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I realize that people might not always relate the true year of their marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's parents. Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO service does not provide for this approach. Thanks for your thoughts, Mary ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a David Evans marriage registered during the 4th quarter of 1845 where the possible partners include Eleanor Jones. The Registration District was Swansea (Glamorganshire) & the GRO reference vol.26, page 746. Stephen Emlyn-Jones -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary JR Gilchrist Sent: 03 August 2013 14:05 To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not succeed, see below. Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague found in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. The obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as follows: Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and Ann Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy family unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen away by death. Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his forename as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid 19th century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As both were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire but this is not certain. They were in Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in Talley. The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I realize that people might not always relate the true year of their marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's parents. Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO service does not provide for this approach. Thanks for your thoughts, Mary ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only thing I have noticed here is that in 1883 Samson was 18 and Susan was 13!! A little young to be having a child. ________________________________ From: Angela Reed <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2013, 15:18 Subject: Re: [GLA] John ROOD b. 1883, Cardiff I thought it was a mistake in the two of them at first too BUT when I looked at the 1911 census and it showed that Susan and Samson had 5 children but only 4 are living with 1 died - that is why I think that John born in 1883 (in 1901 census) and John Solomon born in 1893 (1911 census) are two different people. Angela -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> To: Angela Reed <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11 am Subject: Re: [GLA] John ROOD b. 1883, Cardiff Is this not John??? There really must be a mistake in the 1901 in the age since there is only one in 1901 <G> Not two. 1911 Wales Census about John Solomon Rood Name:    John Solomon Rood Age in 1911:    18 Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1893 Relation to Head:    Son Gender:    Male Birth Place:    Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish:    Rumney Peterstone Wentlloog County/Island:    Monmouthshire Country:    Wales Street Address:    Rings Croft Rumney Nr Cardiff Marital Status:    Single Occupation:    Railway Porter Registration District:    Newport Registration District Number:    587 Sub-registration District:    Rogerstone ED, institution, or vessel:    03 Household Schedule Number:    127 Piece:    32002 Household Members:    Name    Age Samson Maker Rood    49 Susan Rood    43 John Solomon Rood    18 Dasey Rood    15 Florance May Rood    13 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32002; Schedule Number: 127. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 Name:    John Soloman Rood Age:    15 Birth Date:    6 Mar 1893 Residence Date:    16 Jun 1908 Station:    Cardiff Company:    Great Western Class Number:    264 Piece:    432 Description:    Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in Wales 1904-1919 FreeBMD Name:    John S Rood Spouse Surname:    Wilson Date of Registration:    Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Registration District:    Cardiff Inferred County:    Glamorgan Volume Number:    11a Page Number:    830 Records on Page:    Name Dorothy Coulthard John S Rood Thomas H Smith Catherin Wilson Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes.     (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883.  His parents were Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883.  In the 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 died.  So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on Ancestry.com.  I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you Angela -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

That is what I think. The family not showing in 1891 makes it hard and my dogs interrupted my search <G> there well maybe a child that you know nothing of. And Jean is so right Susan would have been awfully young <G> but it isn't unheard of <G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:23 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > Thinking of it again too, maybe the 1901 census should have read 8 yrs old > not 18? Now with that being the case, I now have to try to find the > missing child who died. (the 1911 census and it showed that Susan and > Samson had 5 children but only 4 are living with 1 died). > > Angela > -----Original Message----- > From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> > To: Angela Reed <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11 am > Subject: Re: [GLA] John ROOD b. 1883, Cardiff > > Is this not John??? There really must be a mistake in the 1901 in the > age since there is only one in 1901 <G> Not two. > > > > 1911 Wales Census about John Solomon Rood > Name: John Solomon Rood > Age in 1911: 18 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 > Relation to Head: Son > Gender: Male > Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales > Civil Parish: Rumney Peterstone Wentlloog > County/Island: Monmouthshire > Country: Wales > Street Address: Rings Croft Rumney Nr Cardiff > Marital Status: Single > Occupation: Railway Porter > Registration District: Newport > Registration District Number: 587 > Sub-registration District: Rogerstone > ED, institution, or vessel: 03 > Household Schedule Number: 127 > Piece: 32002 > Household Members: > Name Age > Samson Maker Rood 49 > Susan Rood 43 > John Solomon Rood 18 > Dasey Rood 15 > Florance May Rood 13 > > Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32002; Schedule Number: 127. > > UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 > Name: John Soloman Rood > Age: 15 > Birth Date: 6 Mar 1893 > Residence Date: 16 Jun 1908 > Station: Cardiff > Company: Great Western > Class Number: 264 > Piece: 432 > Description: Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in > Wales 1904-1919 > > > FreeBMD > Name: John S Rood > Spouse Surname: Wilson > Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 > Registration District: Cardiff > Inferred County: Glamorgan > Volume Number: 11a > Page Number: 830 > Records on Page: > Name > Dorothy Coulthard > John S Rood > Thomas H Smith > Catherin Wilson > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. > Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil > Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. > > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883. His parents were >> Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). >> >> While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census >> there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883. In the >> 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 >> census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 >> died. So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census >> died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably >> John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. >> >> I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on >> Ancestry.com. I would appreciate any assistance. >> >> Thank you >> >> Angela >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to [email protected] >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >

Thinking of it again too, maybe the 1901 census should have read 8 yrs old not 18? Now with that being the case, I now have to try to find the missing child who died. (the 1911 census and it showed that Susan and Samson had 5 children but only 4 are living with 1 died). Angela -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> To: Angela Reed <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11 am Subject: Re: [GLA] John ROOD b. 1883, Cardiff Is this not John??? There really must be a mistake in the 1901 in the age since there is only one in 1901 <G> Not two. 1911 Wales Census about John Solomon Rood Name: John Solomon Rood Age in 1911: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Rumney Peterstone Wentlloog County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: Rings Croft Rumney Nr Cardiff Marital Status: Single Occupation: Railway Porter Registration District: Newport Registration District Number: 587 Sub-registration District: Rogerstone ED, institution, or vessel: 03 Household Schedule Number: 127 Piece: 32002 Household Members: Name Age Samson Maker Rood 49 Susan Rood 43 John Solomon Rood 18 Dasey Rood 15 Florance May Rood 13 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32002; Schedule Number: 127. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 Name: John Soloman Rood Age: 15 Birth Date: 6 Mar 1893 Residence Date: 16 Jun 1908 Station: Cardiff Company: Great Western Class Number: 264 Piece: 432 Description: Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in Wales 1904-1919 FreeBMD Name: John S Rood Spouse Surname: Wilson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Registration District: Cardiff Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume Number: 11a Page Number: 830 Records on Page: Name Dorothy Coulthard John S Rood Thomas H Smith Catherin Wilson Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883. His parents were Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883. In the 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 died. So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on Ancestry.com. I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you Angela -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I thought it was a mistake in the two of them at first too BUT when I looked at the 1911 census and it showed that Susan and Samson had 5 children but only 4 are living with 1 died - that is why I think that John born in 1883 (in 1901 census) and John Solomon born in 1893 (1911 census) are two different people. Angela -----Original Message----- From: Eliz Hanebury <[email protected]> To: Angela Reed <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11 am Subject: Re: [GLA] John ROOD b. 1883, Cardiff Is this not John??? There really must be a mistake in the 1901 in the age since there is only one in 1901 <G> Not two. 1911 Wales Census about John Solomon Rood Name: John Solomon Rood Age in 1911: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Rumney Peterstone Wentlloog County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: Rings Croft Rumney Nr Cardiff Marital Status: Single Occupation: Railway Porter Registration District: Newport Registration District Number: 587 Sub-registration District: Rogerstone ED, institution, or vessel: 03 Household Schedule Number: 127 Piece: 32002 Household Members: Name Age Samson Maker Rood 49 Susan Rood 43 John Solomon Rood 18 Dasey Rood 15 Florance May Rood 13 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32002; Schedule Number: 127. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 Name: John Soloman Rood Age: 15 Birth Date: 6 Mar 1893 Residence Date: 16 Jun 1908 Station: Cardiff Company: Great Western Class Number: 264 Piece: 432 Description: Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in Wales 1904-1919 FreeBMD Name: John S Rood Spouse Surname: Wilson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Registration District: Cardiff Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume Number: 11a Page Number: 830 Records on Page: Name Dorothy Coulthard John S Rood Thomas H Smith Catherin Wilson Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883. His parents were Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883. In the 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 died. So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on Ancestry.com. I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you Angela -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is this not John??? There really must be a mistake in the 1901 in the age since there is only one in 1901 <G> Not two. 1911 Wales Census about John Solomon Rood Name: John Solomon Rood Age in 1911: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish: Rumney Peterstone Wentlloog County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: Rings Croft Rumney Nr Cardiff Marital Status: Single Occupation: Railway Porter Registration District: Newport Registration District Number: 587 Sub-registration District: Rogerstone ED, institution, or vessel: 03 Household Schedule Number: 127 Piece: 32002 Household Members: Name Age Samson Maker Rood 49 Susan Rood 43 John Solomon Rood 18 Dasey Rood 15 Florance May Rood 13 Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 32002; Schedule Number: 127. UK, Railway Employment Records, 1833-1963 Name: John Soloman Rood Age: 15 Birth Date: 6 Mar 1893 Residence Date: 16 Jun 1908 Station: Cardiff Company: Great Western Class Number: 264 Piece: 432 Description: Register and histories of traffic staff at stations in Wales 1904-1919 FreeBMD Name: John S Rood Spouse Surname: Wilson Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Registration District: Cardiff Inferred County: Glamorgan Volume Number: 11a Page Number: 830 Records on Page: Name Dorothy Coulthard John S Rood Thomas H Smith Catherin Wilson Source Information: FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Angela Reed <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883. His parents were > Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). > > While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census > there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883. In the > 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 > census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 > died. So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census > died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably > John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. > > I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on > Ancestry.com. I would appreciate any assistance. > > Thank you > > Angela > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am trying to find a death for John Rood b. 1883. His parents were Samson Meaker Rood and Susan Rood (nee Sweet). While adding census records to my files I see that in the 1901 census there shows a child named John Rood who is 18 yrs old - b. 1883. In the 1911 census there is a John Solomon Rood aged 18yrs b. 1893. The 1911 census also shows for Susan Rood that she had 5 children, 4 living and 1 died. So it looks like John born in 1883 and showing on the 1901 census died somewhere between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. So presumably John Rood b. 1883 died sometime between the 1901 census and the 1911 census. I have so far been unable to find any record for his death on Ancestry.com. I would appreciate any assistance. Thank you Angela

Mary - I know this marriage is too early, but thought you could look at it and rule it in or out: Name: David Evans Event Type: Banns Event Date: 29 Oct 1837 Event Place: Llanddewi Brefi, Carmarthenshire, Wales Age: Birth Year (Estimated): Spouse's Name: Elinor Jones GS Film number: Digital Folder Number: 004214003 Have you seen the many marriages listed on FreeBMD? Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Mary JR Gilchrist Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2013 6:04 AM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] Subject: [Dyfed] Marriage Cert from GRO I am hoping someone can coach me about a strategy to find a marriage certificate for my great great grandparents when my own attempt did not succeed, see below. Having just been provided with an obituary from 1904 that a colleague found in Tarian y Gweithwyr and translated, I requested a marriage certificate from the GRO but was disappointed that they could not find the record. The obituary provided the bride's surname and the date of marriage, as follows: Mrs. Evans was born in Half Way House near Talley, Llandeilo, Carmarthenshire on September 15^th 1822.She was the daughter of John and Ann Jones, one of nine children.She joined the Baptist Chapel in Cwmifor near Llandeilo at the age of 18 -- during the tenure of Dd Griffith.She married D. R. Evans on November 12^th 1845 and they lived together as a happy family unit until 22^nd April 1898 when he, the head of the family, was stolen away by death. Her forename was spelled Elleanor in the obituary so I used that spelling even if I have also found it spelled Elinor or Eleanor. I gave his forename as David as I have been told that middle initials were uncommon in mid 19th century Wales even if he went by D. R. at life's end in Iowa, USA. As both were from Carmarthenshire, I gave their marriage place as Carmarthenshire but this is not certain. They were in Glamorganshire by 1851 or as early as 1847, see below. A "boarder" named Ann Jones age 72 was living with them in 1861 and was born in Talley. The obituary of David also gives 1845 as the date of marriage but I realize that people might not always relate the true year of their marriage. Of eight children, four lived to maturity and came with them to Iowa in 1868/9. Rees, the oldest of these, was born in 1851 and was followed by Ann, David and Margaret. Apparently they reused the names of two children who had not survived. In Aberdare christening, census and/or death records, I find evidence for an Ann born 1847 and died 1849 and a Margaret born 1849 and died 1858. Does this suggest that David's mother's name was Margaret? They did not appear to use the name of Elleanor's father for their sons and one does not know the name of David's parents. Should I extend the years beyond 1844-1846, change the place of marriage and/or alter the spelling of Elleanor or supply the initials of David? I was familiar with the old way that one searched for certs by quarter and could select the candidate name(s) and was surprised to find the new GRO service does not provide for this approach. Thanks for your thoughts, Mary ================================ Dyfed list REVISED resources http://home.clara.net/daibevan/DyfedML.html [Dec2012] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message