Well, in 1841 Ancestry says there are two Tho* Hool* in Wales Name: Thomas Hooly also a Mary Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821 Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Aberystruth Hundred: Abergavenny (Upper Division) County/Island: Monmouthshire Country: Wales Street Address: View Image Occupation: labor Registration District: Abergavenny Sub-registration District: Aberystruth Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 742 Book: 7 Folio: 9 Page Number: 11 And this one Name: Thomas Hools Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Where born: Flintshire, Wales Civil Parish: Northop Hundred: Coleshill County/Island: Flintshire Country: Wales Street Address: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration District: Holywell Sub-registration District: Flint Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1407 Book: 20 Folio: 12 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Name Thomas Hools 45 Mary Hools 45 Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1407; Book: 20; Civil Parish: Northop; County: Flintshire; Enumeration District: 6A; Folio: 12; Page: 14; Line: 12; GSU roll: 464323. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 6:31 AM, Mary Mizzi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello list, > > .I opened a an old box of genealogy papers, some handwritten and some > copied from the computer. > Apparently I wrote down the name of Martin HOOLEY who was my grt grt > grandfather born in Ireland somewhere. Beside his name was written > Croft Street 1841.. now I found his son, my Grt Grandfather Thomas > HOOLEY at this street in SWANSEA before he married and wondered if > someone could check if Martin was living there also. I do not know his > date of birth or who he married , when and where. He was shown as > deceased on his sons marriage certificate in 1857 but have never found > his death anywhere. I tried Freecen but no 1841 census. > > This would be the collapse of a huge brick wall if it proved to be > grt grt grandad....I have been looking for him for years. > > Would greatly appreciate it if some kind soul could help please. This > has been a great list in helping me find my ancestors and hoping you > can help me once again. > > Many thanks for any information. > > Kind regards, > > Mary > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There are 6 Walter Charles or Charles Walters reg in 1885 or 6 none of which have the supposed fathers name. Strangely all but one are in the London "area". I get no Charles Robert or Robert Charles being registered but it wouldn't be beyond reason that he was born before 1837. Then I took a look at London baptisms and using Charles Robert as father, there was a Violet baptized in Lewisham (one of only two with a father Charles Robert) Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Robert Williams < [email protected]> wrote: > I forgot to add that my Pal seems to think that his Father Walter Charles > FREEMAN was the son of > Charles Robert FREEMAN. > So the one in Lewisham is most probably the wrong man. > > Cheers Graham. > > Graham Williams, > Glam;FHS# 551. > of Canton,Cardiff. > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I forgot to add that my Pal seems to think that his Father Walter Charles FREEMAN was the son of Charles Robert FREEMAN. So the one in Lewisham is most probably the wrong man.  Cheers Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

I quickly tried ancestry's 1841 census with no luck - almost no Hooleys, either. I hope some one else will do better than I. Sue On Aug 31, 2013, at 6:31 AM, "Mary Mizzi" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello list, > > .I opened a an old box of genealogy papers, some handwritten and some > copied from the computer. > Apparently I wrote down the name of Martin HOOLEY who was my grt grt > grandfather born in Ireland somewhere. Beside his name was written > Croft Street 1841.. now I found his son, my Grt Grandfather Thomas > HOOLEY at this street in SWANSEA before he married and wondered if > someone could check if Martin was living there also. I do not know his > date of birth or who he married , when and where. He was shown as > deceased on his sons marriage certificate in 1857 but have never found > his death anywhere. I tried Freecen but no 1841 census. > > This would be the collapse of a huge brick wall if it proved to be > grt grt grandad....I have been looking for him for years. > > Would greatly appreciate it if some kind soul could help please. This > has been a great list in helping me find my ancestors and hoping you > can help me once again. > > Many thanks for any information. > > Kind regards, > > Mary > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone. I now have some further information on the FREEMAN family. As Paul Daniels would say though, "Not a lot!"   I have Walter Charles FREEMAN was born on the 21st;of December 1885,Possibly in the London area. I found a possible candidate on free BMD; This one was registered in the december quarter of 1885 at Lewisham.   I do know that he died 13th; of october 1958 in Loughor,West Glamorgan.   Any sightings of him in the Census returns welcome please.   His wife was Gladys Mary[or May],nee DAVIES. She died at Loughor on the 3rd;of june 1966[aged 63 according to Free BMD;]  Many Thanks, Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Dear Kay, Welcome to the Glamorgan Mailing List, You wrote:- GFHS sent me information on the family of William Phillips and his wife, Rachel (nee Thomas) I am sure that they sent you dates for the family Kay, but they are not shown in your message to the list. Could we have some dates and places for this family please, so that we are better able to help you if we have William and Rachel's dates and places of birth. Jill -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ronald Armstrong Sent: 26 August 2013 03:05 To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] Phillips family Bore da That is about the extent of my Welsh other than to have a translation done!! My name is Kay Armstrong and I live in Newcastle, NSW, Australia. My ancestoral family were Welsh miners in Glamorganshire. My email address is: [email protected] I have been given your email address by Alun @ Glamorgan Family History Society. He and Jean have been very helpful to me in tracing this family. I will explain what they have given me. GFHS sent me information on the family of William Phillips and his wife, Rachel (nee Thomas). William's father was David Phillips b.1819, d.1859. He married a Margaret Morgan or Margaret Morris in either 1838 or 1839 in Neath. They had 8 children. I was given information from Census records from 1841 through to 1891. Jean suggested that I contact your organisation to see if you had information from Parish records of David Phillips' family (correct wife's name, parents, BDM, siblings, children etc). They were a Nonconformist family in Llangwig. Would there be information in your records also as to the departure of William and Rachel Phillips from Wales in 1886 (date, name of vessel, why they would have emigrated)? I know they left Ferndale in 1886 with 4 children as my mother and I were brought up by this family in Stockton, NSW, Australia. I was told by the then youngest child she was 3 months old when the family left Ferndale to come to Australia. There were 3 more children born in Stockton after their arrival. Jean was also able to find me information on Rachel Phillips' family - the Thomas' - which was really great, however couldn't give me any further information on the Phillips family. Thank you in advance for any help which you may be able to give me. I look forward to hearing from you. Kay Armstrong. -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bore da That is about the extent of my Welsh other than to have a translation done!! My name is Kay Armstrong and I live in Newcastle, NSW, Australia. My ancestoral family were Welsh miners in Glamorganshire. My email address is: [email protected] I have been given your email address by Alun @ Glamorgan Family History Society. He and Jean have been very helpful to me in tracing this family. I will explain what they have given me. GFHS sent me information on the family of William Phillips and his wife, Rachel (nee Thomas). William's father was David Phillips b.1819, d.1859. He married a Margaret Morgan or Margaret Morris in either 1838 or 1839 in Neath. They had 8 children. I was given information from Census records from 1841 through to 1891. Jean suggested that I contact your organisation to see if you had information from Parish records of David Phillips' family (correct wife's name, parents, BDM, siblings, children etc). They were a Nonconformist family in Llangwig. Would there be information in your records also as to the departure of William and Rachel Phillips from Wales in 1886 (date, name of vessel, why they would have emigrated)? I know they left Ferndale in 1886 with 4 children as my mother and I were brought up by this family in Stockton, NSW, Australia. I was told by the then youngest child she was 3 months old when the family left Ferndale to come to Australia. There were 3 more children born in Stockton after their arrival. Jean was also able to find me information on Rachel Phillips' family - the Thomas' - which was really great, however couldn't give me any further information on the Phillips family. Thank you in advance for any help which you may be able to give me. I look forward to hearing from you. Kay Armstrong.

Many thanks for your reply and advice which I shall follow up. I recently made a similar request to the Rootsweb group in New South Wales and as a result of similar advice to yours have found a large family of cousins in the Sydney and Melbourne areas. Thank you again Roger

Roger, Your best would be to contact Pontypridd library http://www.rctcbc.gov.uk/en/leisurelibrariesculture/libraries/libraries-locationsandopeninghours/pontypriddlibrary/pontypriddlibrary.aspx They will hold an archive of the past issues of the local newspaper 'Pontypridd Observer'. The best you can expect is a 'funeral notice' which will list the names of family etc. members but no addresses. Even then you should provide the date of the funeral (or approximate say 3-5 days from date of decease) as these notices can appear one or two weeks after that (it is a weekly publication) If Royston Watkins was someone of importance in the local community there could be an article about him but that is pretty rare these days - you are stretched to find even news in these papers. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger M Evans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:11 PM Subject: [GLA] Obituary Pontypridd 1990 Royston Edward Watkins

Would any lister have access to publications in the Pontypridd area and be able to either copy me any obituary relating to Royston or advise where I might be able to obtain a copy. Royston was born 6th Sept 1922, within the Pontypridd area, one of eight children born to Edward and May (nee Cooper)Watkins and departed this life in November of 1990. My interest follows from his great great grandmother being my great great aunt and I would like to reconnect with what appears to be an extensive family which has developed in/from the Pontypridd area Regards Roger M Evans

Many thanks to all those who have assisted me in the search. I have thanked them all personally. I am now awaiting my Pal's brother to go on "Safari"up in his Loft, in his house in Loughor,where apparently lies an old "Family Bible" [the official "Goldmine"to Genealogists worldwide!] also several old certificates and other stuff. I am seeing my Pal Ken tomorrow when I go "Bowling". So hopefully by that time,said brother has got off his Bum,and Has forwarded some nice juicy information for us. Cheers and thanks again. Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Hello, I wrote to the list in May this year to seek help in finding the hymn music that accompanied the lyrics my grandmother SARAH THORNE wrote in 1913 for the Senghenydd disaster. I had no success in finding the music so I contacted the Senghenydd Heritage Centre asking if they would consider including her words as a reading during one of the events taking place during the centenary. To my delight they agreed and it is planned it will now be sung to a Welsh hymn at the Gymanfa Ganu Service on the 13th October. Further to this the Welsh singers and composers Dan and Laura Curtis who sing the Great American Songbook music asked if they could write new music for Sarahs hymn. The new music, which is beautiful, has now been recorded and is currently on YouTube (Prepare to Meet thy God). This talented couple have also written "A Miners Song" also on YouTube this is the Charity single to raise funds for the National Mining Memorial. Sarahs hymn with the new music will be performed at the Blackwood Miners Institute Concert on the 5th October 2013. I would just like to share with the GLA list this wonderful and exciting thing that has happened through doing Family History research. Best Wishes Cheryl Kettering. From: Cheryl Williams <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 15:04 Subject: [GLA] Senghenydd Disaster Hello listers. The following is a newspaper item printed after the Senghenydd Disaster: The memorial service for the victims of the Senghenydd disaster was conducted at the St Peters Chuch on Sunday evening when the sacred edifice was crowded. The sermon was delivered by the Rev, Campbell Davies, curate-in-charge. Among the hymns sang during the service was one composed by the Bishop of Durham and another by Mrs Thorne, of Abertridwr, both of which were composed after the disaster and relatives to the same. The dead march was also touchingly rendered. Mrs Sarah Ann Thorne was my grandmother, the hymn she composed was called, Prepare To Meet Thy God, the four verses were printed on sheets and sold for one penny. The proceeds of the sale went towards erecting a Memorial Plate. This Plate is still held at St Peters Senghenydd in memory of those who lost their lives in the explosion. I do not know what music was composed for the hymn, would the sheet music be held in an archive somewhere? As this year is the 100th anniversary of the Senghenydd disaster I would really like to trace it. Can the list help with this enquiry. Best wishes Cheryl Kettering.

Hi I have just joined the list again I am looking for some information on the Smith family. Who lived in Llanbradach around 1912 they had a daughter Louise Smith and a boarder George Stevens. I found this on the 1911 census. I was hopping someone could be researching the Smith family Regards Veneita

Hello all. This is for one of my Bowling pals. His father was Walter Charles FREEMAN born around 1887 possibly in Pitsea, [spelling] in Essex. His father was Charles Robert FREEMAN. Nothing is known about him so far. Walter married to Gladys,  Mary DAVIES in W.Glamorgan in 1935[from Free BMD;] they lived in Loughor. Walter died in 1958 aged 71. If found in 1891,further information gladly recieved with many thanks.  Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Graham - I'm looking on Ancestry for a Walter C. son of Charles, but I find none born in Essex. Several born in London with a father, Charles. Are you sure of the county? Have you looked on Familysearch? There are a number of Walter Freeman and Charles Freeman's listed on the 1891 census. Once you narrow down which is likely yours and their location, I can have another look on Ancestry. Lynne in Tucson -----Original Message----- From: Robert Williams Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 5:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [GLA] 1891 census lookup please. Hello all. This is for one of my Bowling pals. His father was Walter Charles FREEMAN born around 1887 possibly in Pitsea, [spelling] in Essex. His father was Charles Robert FREEMAN. Nothing is known about him so far. Walter married to Gladys, Mary DAVIES in W.Glamorgan in 1935[from Free BMD;] they lived in Loughor. Walter died in 1958 aged 71. If found in 1891,further information gladly recieved with many thanks. Graham. Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff. -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pamela, Thanks for that info. It is sometimes very confusing finding the correct person with so many mistakes in the spelling of the names. It seems that Ellen in the 1871 and 1881 Census is the same person but now who were William and Ellen Williams? More researching here as I have no info about this family and if she was a neice, might be on the Aunts side of the family? I am getting excited wondering if it is the Hooley or Fitzgerald side. Here is the family of Thomas HOOLEY b.1836 Ireland? m. 1857 Swansea to Mary Anne FITZGERALD b. 1836 Ireland? d 1894/5 ; Mary Anne d. 1908 All Cardiff Wales. Children. 1.Mary Ann b. 1858 m Charles YOUNG(1) Andrew WHYTE/WHITE (2).children Will1877 and Alice 1879 Young. (My Dad, Thomas Hooley 3a was adopted by Mary Ann after his mother died in 1903 2.William b1861 m.Catherine LARKIN children Henry1877 and Emma Larkin 1879 Mary Ann 1887 William 1890 and Lillian 1893 Hooley 3.Thomas b 1862 m Julia Ann MAHONEY (G/parents) Ellen 1889 Thomas 1894 (myfather) Timothy1899 4.Timothy b. 1863 5.Ellen Hooley b.1864 6.Margaret Hooley b.1866 m. Richard HART 7.John b.1867 m Mary Ann LEARY Children. Thomas 1890,MaryAnn1891.Ellen 1897. Olive Roderick Hooley 1911 8.Elizabeth b.1869 m James COTTER 9.Martin b and d. 1871 10.Agnes Alice b 1874 d1875 11.Timothy Martin b.1875 12.Agnes Mary b. 1877 I have been told either Timothy(4) or Timothy Martin (11)m Christina Ada BLACKMORE. Have not checked this out as yet. I have no information regarding the rest of the family at the moment. .ongoing research. As you can see, names repeated throughout the family so have to check b.date first. If anyone on this list is related to any of the above, would love to hear from you. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Marsden" <[email protected]> To: "Mary" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:19 PM Subject: Ellen Hooley b1864 r There is an 1861 census entry for a Thomas Hooley b 1836 Ireland with wife Mary A and two children, Mary A aged 3 and William aged 7 months, in Henry Street, Cardiff. Could they be Ellen's parents and siblings? In 1871 Ellen Hooley b 1864 is described as a niece living with William and Ellen Williams in Roath, Cardiff. I think she must be the "Gellon Hooly" aged 17 in the same household in 1881 now described as general servant. I haven't found her in 1891. Pamela

Hello, I wrote to the list in May this year to seek help in finding the hymn music that accompanied the lyrics my grandmother SARAH THORNE wrote in 1913 for the Senghenydd disaster. I had no success in finding the music so I contacted the Senghenydd Heritage Centre asking if they would consider including her words as a reading during one of the events taking place during the centenary. To my delight they agreed and it is planned it will now be sung to a Welsh hymn at the Gymanfa Ganu Service on the 13th October. Further to this the Welsh singers and composers Dan and Laura Curtis who sing the Great American Songbook music asked if they could write new music for Sarahs hymn. The new music, which is beautiful, has now been recorded and is currently on YouTube (Prepare to Meet thy God). This talented couple have also written "A Miners Song" also on YouTube this is the Charity single to raise funds for the National Mining Memorial. Sarahs hymn with the new music will be performed at the Blackwood Miners Institute Concert on the 5th October 2013. I would just like to share with the GLA list this wonderful and exciting thing that has happened through doing Family History research. Best Wishes Cheryl Kettering. From: Cheryl Williams <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 15:04 Subject: [GLA] Senghenydd Disaster Hello listers. The following is a newspaper item printed after the Senghenydd Disaster: The memorial service for the victims of the Senghenydd disaster was conducted at the St Peters Chuch on Sunday evening when the sacred edifice was crowded. The sermon was delivered by the Rev, Campbell Davies, curate-in-charge. Among the hymns sang during the service was one composed by the Bishop of Durham and another by Mrs Thorne, of Abertridwr, both of which were composed after the disaster and relatives to the same. The dead march was also touchingly rendered. Mrs Sarah Ann Thorne was my grandmother, the hymn she composed was called, Prepare To Meet Thy God, the four verses were printed on sheets and sold for one penny. The proceeds of the sale went towards erecting a Memorial Plate. This Plate is still held at St Peters Senghenydd in memory of those who lost their lives in the explosion. I do not know what music was composed for the hymn, would the sheet music be held in an archive somewhere? As this year is the 100th anniversary of the Senghenydd disaster I would really like to trace it. Can the list help with this enquiry. Best wishes Cheryl Kettering. --

Would you post the poem? The song was lovely, a pleasure to hear but I would have loved the lyrics at the same time <G> Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Cheryl Williams <[email protected]>wrote: > Hello, > I wrote to the list in May this year to seek help in finding the hymn > music that accompanied the lyrics my grandmother SARAH THORNE wrote in 1913 > for the Senghenydd disaster. I had no success in finding the music so I > contacted the Senghenydd Heritage Centre asking if they would consider > including her words as a reading during one of the events taking place > during the centenary. To my delight they agreed and it is planned it will > now be sung to a Welsh hymn at the Gymanfa Ganu Service on the 13th October. > > Further to this the Welsh singers and composers Dan and Laura Curtis who > sing the Great American Songbook music asked if they could write new music > for Sarahs hymn. The new music, which is beautiful, has now been recorded > and is currently on YouTube (Prepare to Meet thy God). This talented couple > have also written "A Miners Song" also on YouTube this is the Charity > single to raise funds for the National Mining Memorial. Sarahs hymn with > the new music will be performed at the Blackwood Miners Institute Concert > on the 5th October 2013. > > I would just like to share with the GLA list this wonderful and exciting > thing that has happened through doing Family History research. > > Best Wishes > Cheryl > Kettering. > > > From: Cheryl Williams <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, 10 May 2013, 15:04 > Subject: [GLA] Senghenydd Disaster > > > Hello listers. > > The following is a newspaper item printed after the Senghenydd Disaster: > > The memorial service for the victims of the Senghenydd disaster was > conducted at the St Peters Chuch on Sunday evening when the sacred edifice > was crowded. The sermon was delivered by the Rev, Campbell Davies, > curate-in-charge. Among the hymns sang during the service was one composed > by the Bishop of Durham and another by Mrs Thorne, of Abertridwr, both of > which were composed after the disaster and relatives to the same. The dead > march was also touchingly rendered. > > Mrs Sarah Ann Thorne was my grandmother, the hymn she composed was called, > Prepare To Meet Thy God, the four verses were printed on sheets and sold > for one penny. The proceeds of the sale went towards erecting a Memorial > Plate. This Plate is still held at St Peters Senghenydd in memory of those > who lost their lives in the explosion. > > I do not know what music was composed for the hymn, would the sheet music > be held in an archive somewhere? > > As this year is the 100th anniversary of the Senghenydd disaster I would > really like to trace it. > > Can the list help with this enquiry. > > Best wishes > Cheryl > Kettering. > -- > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jeff and List, Thankyou for your help in finding my AUNTY Ellen Hooley b.1889 m 1909 to Michael PHILLIPSbut nowI have now been trying to find the birth of my GREAT AUNT Ellen HOOLEY b. abt 1864 in Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales , parents Thomas Hooley 1. and Mary Ann Fitzgerald on FreeBMD but no results are coming up. Tried the FreeCen of 1851 Census for Cardiff/ Glamorgan but still no results for the family. I found a marriage for Ellen Hooley in Mar 1896 but when I go into the page site, where it usually has a few names and try to work out who the husband is, it only shows me her name or goes back to the main search page. The numbers shown are Vol 11a 524a.. so what does this a mean? Illegible writing and unable to read the name? How can I find her married name and check out the census? Thanks for any help with this. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]>; "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup If you go to www.FreeBMD.org.uk instead of to the second-hand Ancestry version, you can use the 'spectacles' link on the right of the search results to see the original document that the transcription was made from, and in many cases a better image. The FreeBMD transcription is _1_ not just 1, and the _ indicates that another number is present but unreadable. In fact if you look at the linked image ANC-05/P-Z/1857M1-S-0225.jpg you will see that the page number for Bridget SHEA is 412 I have submitted a correction request via the FreeBMD facility so there is no need for anyone else to do so. The corrected version should be in the FreeBMD database within about 2 to 3 months. I do not know whether Ancestry corrects their version of FreeBMD data when FreeBMD is updated, and how much delay there is. By selecting all marriages in Merthyr Tydfil district in that quarter ( something easy to do on FreeBMD - don't know whether a commercial site like Ancestry would allow it) and using CTRL-F you can find the other entries already transcribed as page 412 are ALLEN,David which I confirm is correctly transcribed DAVIES,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed DWYER,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed WILLIAMS,Thomas which I confirm is correctly transcribed I assume that unless Margaret Davies and Margaret Dwyer were the same person, with an alias, there ought to be another male on this page number. I can't find him immediately. I confirm that there was no GRADY or O'GRADY entry in Merthyr Tydfil district in March quarter 1857 There are quite a lot of Irish surnames in the pages following 412, including 414, 416 and 417, so that run of GRO index numbers might be from the register of a Catholic church, or a register office if no Catholic Church was registered at the time. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup > This is what Ancestry has > Name: Bridget Shea > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1857 > Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil > Inferred County: Glamorgan > Volume Number: 11a > Page Number: 1 > Records on Page: > Name > Mary Ann Harris > Thomas Howell > James Jones > Thomas Keil > Bridget Shea > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. > Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil > Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. > > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Susan Haines <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello, when I search freebmd for a marriage for Bridget Shea, I >> find one >> in Merthyr which is where she lived in Mar Quarter 1857, vol 1a, >> but the >> page seems corrupted, I guess. I am not able to look for spouse >> which I >> am hoping will be either James Grady or John Grady. Is some one >> able to >> look for this record in some other way? >> >> You may be very tired of this search but I am looking for a Bridget >> Grady who died in New Haven, Ct. Her death certificate said her >> maiden >> name was Shea and her husband "James Grady". Given all the tracing >> I >> have done in New Haven from one year to the next I believed her to >> be >> Bridget Moran Grady, not Shea Grady. If she was indeed Shea then >> she >> could be my gr gr aunt, otherwise she is gr gr aunt-in-law. >> >> thank you, again, for your patience. >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to [email protected] >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, >> may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, > may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is an 1861 census entry for a Thomas Hooley b 1836 Ireland with wife Mary A and two children, Mary A aged 3 and William aged 7 months, in Henry Street, Cardiff. Could they be Ellen's parents and siblings? In 1871 Ellen Hooley b 1864 is described as a niece living with William and Ellen Williams in Roath, Cardiff. I think she must be the "Gellon Hooly" aged 17 in the same household in 1881 now described as general servant. I haven't found her in 1891. Pamela Thankyou for your help in finding my AUNTY Ellen Hooley b.1889 m 1909 to Michael PHILLIPSbut nowI have now been trying to find the birth of my GREAT AUNT Ellen HOOLEY b. abt 1864 in Cardiff Glamorgan, Wales , parents Thomas Hooley 1. and Mary Ann Fitzgerald on FreeBMD but no results are coming up. Tried the FreeCen of 1851 Census for Cardiff/ Glamorgan but still no results for the family. I found a marriage for Ellen Hooley in Mar 1896 but when I go into the page site, where it usually has a few names and try to work out who the husband is, it only shows me her name or goes back to the main search page. The numbers shown are Vol 11a 524a.. so what does this a mean? Illegible writing and unable to read the name? How can I find her married name and check out the census? Thanks for any help with this. Kind regards, Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Coleman" <[email protected]> To: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]>; "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2013 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup If you go to www.FreeBMD.org.uk instead of to the second-hand Ancestry version, you can use the 'spectacles' link on the right of the search results to see the original document that the transcription was made from, and in many cases a better image. The FreeBMD transcription is _1_ not just 1, and the _ indicates that another number is present but unreadable. In fact if you look at the linked image ANC-05/P-Z/1857M1-S-0225.jpg you will see that the page number for Bridget SHEA is 412 I have submitted a correction request via the FreeBMD facility so there is no need for anyone else to do so. The corrected version should be in the FreeBMD database within about 2 to 3 months. I do not know whether Ancestry corrects their version of FreeBMD data when FreeBMD is updated, and how much delay there is. By selecting all marriages in Merthyr Tydfil district in that quarter ( something easy to do on FreeBMD - don't know whether a commercial site like Ancestry would allow it) and using CTRL-F you can find the other entries already transcribed as page 412 are ALLEN,David which I confirm is correctly transcribed DAVIES,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed DWYER,Margaret which I confirm is correctly transcribed WILLIAMS,Thomas which I confirm is correctly transcribed I assume that unless Margaret Davies and Margaret Dwyer were the same person, with an alias, there ought to be another male on this page number. I can't find him immediately. I confirm that there was no GRADY or O'GRADY entry in Merthyr Tydfil district in March quarter 1857 There are quite a lot of Irish surnames in the pages following 412, including 414, 416 and 417, so that run of GRO index numbers might be from the register of a Catholic church, or a register office if no Catholic Church was registered at the time. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliz Hanebury" <[email protected]> To: "Susan Haines" <[email protected]> Cc: "Glam List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] marriage lookup > This is what Ancestry has > Name: Bridget Shea > Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1857 > Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil > Inferred County: Glamorgan > Volume Number: 11a > Page Number: 1 > Records on Page: > Name > Mary Ann Harris > Thomas Howell > James Jones > Thomas Keil > Bridget Shea > > Source Information: > FreeBMD. England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 > [database > on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. > Original data: General Register Office. England and Wales Civil > Registration Indexes. London, England: General Register Office. > > Eliz > Not Today and Not without a Fight > (Anon) > > For all that has been, thanks. > For all that will be, yes. > (Dag Hammarskjold) > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Susan Haines <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello, when I search freebmd for a marriage for Bridget Shea, I >> find one >> in Merthyr which is where she lived in Mar Quarter 1857, vol 1a, >> but the >> page seems corrupted, I guess. I am not able to look for spouse >> which I >> am hoping will be either James Grady or John Grady. Is some one >> able to >> look for this record in some other way? >> >> You may be very tired of this search but I am looking for a Bridget >> Grady who died in New Haven, Ct. Her death certificate said her >> maiden >> name was Shea and her husband "James Grady". Given all the tracing >> I >> have done in New Haven from one year to the next I believed her to >> be >> Bridget Moran Grady, not Shea Grady. If she was indeed Shea then >> she >> could be my gr gr aunt, otherwise she is gr gr aunt-in-law. >> >> thank you, again, for your patience. >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> To send to the list send to [email protected] >> GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >> - >> This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ >> - >> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, >> may be >> found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ >> >> - >> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, > may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to [email protected] GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. 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