Can't tell you exactly off the top of my head Merv but it is the Registration District. Regards Lyn In Oz. > > I'm wondering if anyone knows what the "R.S.D." might mean? > > > kind regards, > > > Merv > -- >

From: "Merv Thomas" <[email protected]> > Hello the list, > > My grandfather's birth certificate shows under Column 1 - the when and where > born column - the date and place of his birth and then under all that there's > "R.S.D". > > I'm wondering if anyone knows what the "R.S.D." might mean? > > > kind regards, > > > Merv> R.S.D. was the abbreviation for Rural Sanitary District, an official body responsible for looking after the sanitation and genral cleanliness of an area. You will find either R.S.D. or U.S.D. (Urban Sanitary District) on a great many birth certificates from that era. From Wikipedia..... "Sanitary districts were established in England and Wales in 1875 and in Ireland in 1878. The districts were of two types, based on existing structures: Urban sanitary districts in towns with existing local government bodies Rural sanitary districts in the remaining rural areas of poor law unions. Each district was governed by a sanitary authority and was responsible for various public health matters such as providing clean drinking water, sewers, street cleaning, and clearing slum housing. "In England and Wales, both rural and urban sanitary districts were replaced in 1894 by the Local Government Act 1894 by the more general rural districts and urban districts. A similar reform was carried out in Ireland in 1899 by the Local Government (Ireland) Act 1898.". -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hello the list, My grandfather's birth certificate shows under Column 1 - the when and where born column - the date and place of his birth and then under all that there's "R.S.D". I'm wondering if anyone knows what the "R.S.D." might mean? kind regards, Merv

When Mary previously asked about this census in 2005 the 'Abervale' place of birth for Mary HOOLEY was suggested to be Ebbw Vale, and advice was also given where to look for a Catholic baptism for a child born there. See http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/glamorgan/2005-11/1131585628 Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen D'All" <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 12:59 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] GLA puzzle with 1861 Census > Hello Mary > I have looked on Ancestry = Eleanor's birthplace has been transcribed as > Coal Brook Vale, Devon - the word Devon on the original appears to have > been added in a different hand however. The transcription for Mary Ann's > birthplace is Abervale, Monmouthshire - the only word that is clear in all > that (to my eyes) is Abervale. > As for Eleanor, the location in the way it is written is at odds with > everything else on the page - firstly, when a person is from Ireland, the > country name is all that appears. When the location is Wales or England it > is written county first, followed by the town ie "Glamorgan, Cardiff". > That being said, I cannot decipher what is written in for Eleanor but that > may simply be a case of my unfamiliarity with the area. > Sorry, wish I could have been more help. > I am willing to email the page to anyone who might have a better > interpretation. > Helen > > "Walking the stacks in a library, dragging your fingers across the spines > ~ it's hard not to feel the presence of sleeping spirits" Robin Sloan > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rural Sanitary District I believe Helen "Walking the stacks in a library, dragging your fingers across the spines ~ it's hard not to feel the presence of sleeping spirits" Robin Sloan > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:01:54 +0100 > Subject: [GLA] Birth Certificate query > > Hello the list, > > My grandfather's birth certificate shows under Column 1 - the when and where born column - the date and place of his birth and then under all that there's "R.S.D". > > I'm wondering if anyone knows what the "R.S.D." might mean? > > > kind regards, > > > Merv > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List, I have a copy of a 1861 Census. No name of town of district written on top but think it might be Glamorganshire and the Town might be Cardiff. As under; Page 40 801 No. Street Name of Occupants age Employment where born 216 3 Henry Street William WILLIAMS Mar. 34 Lab Docks ? Cardiff Eleanor WILLIAMS wife 33 ??? The neighbours in 217 are my Grt Grandparents Thomas and Mary Ann Fitzgerald Hooley It seems that Eleanor Fitzgerald Williams is Mary Ann's sister. Now can anyone with a large magnifying glass, tell me where Eleanor and Mary Ann were born as shown on this Census please I cannot read it and would appreciate hearing from some kind person who might have better eyes than mine. I have always thought they were born in Ireland but looks different on this census and yet in the 1871 Census, Mary Ann is shown witih Thomas and family living at St Marys Parish, Cardiff at 5 Buzzard Street and it shows she is born in Ireland?? Hoping someone can help me with this puzzle. Many thanks for any help. Mary

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4036; Folio: 108B; Page: 46; GSU roll: 543224. Sent from my iPad

You don't need better eyes, better handwriting would help a lot. I would not think Cardiff but it really does appear that some ...da/e/i/ff is the word Name: William Williams Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1827 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eleanor Williams Gender: Male Where born: Cardiff, Glamorgan, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Cardiff St Mary County/Island: Glamorgan Country: Wales Street Address: View Image Condition as to marriage: View Image Education: View Image Employment status: View Image Occupation: View Image Registration District: Cardiff Sub-registration District: Cardiff ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Household Schedule Number: 216 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 4036 Folio: 108B Page Number: 46 Household Members: Name Age William Williams 34 Eleanor Williams 33 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 4036; Folio: 108B; Page: 46; GSU roll: 543224. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Mary Mizzi <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi List, > > I have a copy of a 1861 Census. No name of town of district written on > top but think it might be Glamorganshire and the Town might be > Cardiff. > > As under; > Page 40 801 > No. Street Name of Occupants > age Employment where born > > 216 3 Henry Street William WILLIAMS Mar. 34 Lab > Docks ? Cardiff > Eleanor > WILLIAMS wife 33 ??? > > The neighbours in 217 are my Grt Grandparents Thomas and Mary Ann > Fitzgerald Hooley > It seems that Eleanor Fitzgerald Williams is Mary Ann's sister. Now > can anyone with a large magnifying glass, tell me where Eleanor and > Mary Ann were born as shown on this Census please I cannot read it > and would appreciate hearing from some kind person who might have > better eyes than mine. I have always thought they were born in Ireland > but looks different on this census and yet in the 1871 Census, Mary > Ann is shown witih Thomas and family living at St Marys Parish, > Cardiff at 5 Buzzard Street and it shows she is born in Ireland?? > Hoping someone can help me with this puzzle. > > Many thanks for any help. > > Mary > > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Helen, Coalbrook Vale was in Monmouthshire, a suburb of Nantyglo.This would tie in with the birthplace of the other sister as being Abervale,also in Monmouthshire. regards Mike Willing to have a look at original scan.

Hello Mary I have looked on Ancestry = Eleanor's birthplace has been transcribed as Coal Brook Vale, Devon - the word Devon on the original appears to have been added in a different hand however. The transcription for Mary Ann's birthplace is Abervale, Monmouthshire - the only word that is clear in all that (to my eyes) is Abervale. As for Eleanor, the location in the way it is written is at odds with everything else on the page - firstly, when a person is from Ireland, the country name is all that appears. When the location is Wales or England it is written county first, followed by the town ie "Glamorgan, Cardiff". That being said, I cannot decipher what is written in for Eleanor but that may simply be a case of my unfamiliarity with the area. Sorry, wish I could have been more help. I am willing to email the page to anyone who might have a better interpretation. Helen "Walking the stacks in a library, dragging your fingers across the spines ~ it's hard not to feel the presence of sleeping spirits" Robin Sloan

Hello list I am looking for help with my Great Grandmother Jane RICHARDS born about 1869, in Merthyr Tydfil. I would like to find her in the 1871 census, and have had no success, as she wasn't with the rest of the family then. I wonder if she was sent to stay with a relative as at the time of the 1871 census her brother Edward was only 6 weeks old, and Howell's mother was staying with the family. I have the family in 1881 at Canal Row, 1891 and 1901 at Nightingale St and 1911 at Catherine Sq. Her parents were Howell RICHARDS 1842 and Ann REES 1843 ( another line of enquiry I need to pursue with the family is to follow up Ann and find out if she is related to David REES 1858 who she married!) Her siblings were Edward and William, with a half sister Anne from Howell's first marriage. I am unable to locate a birth for her but hoping that the 1871 census might narrow down the possibilities a little. Any help would be appreciated Thanks, Chris (Australia)

Hi Denis, I'm sorry I was not helpful. I think i misunderstood your writing "trying to establish the first Marriage" .As i had found a marriage for a William Watkin(s) to a Martha Davies in 1845. Lynne

Thanks Lynne for replying [ her reply below.] I spent a few days thinking about and looking at marriage transcripts on Findmypast and came across this one Watkin Williams wed Martha Lewis 11 Sept 1837 St John Cardiff could this be my relative with the names miss transcribed. She was from St George Super- Ely according to the census returns of 1851. Think I may be making progress at long last Cheers Denis Edwards Hi Denis, Looked at 1841 census,from that I could only find one possible. William Watkin to Ann Evans at Parish Church St Lythians. both of full age Ann from parish of St Lythians ,William from Parish of Radyr. William's father Edward. witnessed by Morgan Evans and Jane Evans.May 2nd 1841. Lynne

The newspapers should have a lot of accounts, just of the top of my head, the accounts I read made me think of the Black Death. So many people ill doctors and nurses couldn't keep up, burials were hard to keep up with. It is hard to imagine now just how bad it was. Mean time you can try this link http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/flu-how-britain-coped-in-the-1918-epidemic-511987.html Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 12:17 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > My Grandmother died in Whitchurch, Glamorgan in October 1918 a victim of > the Spanish Flu Epidemic. > > Does anyone know of a website that has an account of the effects of the > epidemic on the Glamorgan area? > > Martin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

My Grandmother died in Whitchurch, Glamorgan in October 1918 a victim of the Spanish Flu Epidemic. Does anyone know of a website that has an account of the effects of the epidemic on the Glamorgan area? Martin -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

On 07.09.2013 17:14, Robert Treharne Jones wrote: Hello Robert Thank you for your reply.I am looking for someone who could be researching the name Smith from Llanbradach I am trying to find some information on my grandfather George Stevens born 1892 Mormouthshire who was a boarder with the smith family I would like to know why he lived with them. and if he was related to them I know that he married my Grandmother Hannah Ethel Carruthers at all saint Church Llandbradach 1912 and that a Louisa Smith was her Bridesmaid but I don't think he was born there. I do have the Marriage Certificate but where his fathers name should be. it just states deceased and the name Stevens I din't think he was illegitimate I have been on the list before and so many nice people on the list have helped me. but no luck.so I am trying again Regards Veneita > Dear Veneita > > You asked the same question in February 2011 - what exactly are you > are > trying to find out? > If you're looking for someone approaching the same family from the > opposite > direction then using one of the 'hint' utilities that links directly > to your > genealogy software might be useful > > Robert > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: [GLA] SMITH > > Hi I have just joined the list again > > I am looking for some information on > the Smith family. Who lived in Llanbradach > around 1912 they had a daughter Louise Smith > and a boarder George Stevens. I found this on the 1911 > census. I was hopping someone could be researching > the Smith family > > > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, > may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Wonder if anyone can help here looking for a marriage of a William Watkin[s] born 1817 Llandaff Glamorgan his wife's name is Martha and he is at Radyr in the 1851 census with wife and 2 kids trying to establish the first marriage Cheers Denis Edwards

Hi Denis, St Lythians should be St Lythans of course, typing error. Lynne

Hi Denis, Looked at 1841 census,from that I could only find one possible. William Watkin to Ann Evans at Parish Church St Lythians. both of full age Ann from parish of St Lythians ,William from Parish of Radyr. William's father Edward. witnessed by Morgan Evans and Jane Evans.May 2nd 1841. Lynne

Civil Registration of Births came in on 1st July 1837 so for most people born after that you can order a copy of a birth certificate from the GRO. Registration was not compulsory until a while later, but a very large proportion of births were actually registered. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/Civil_Regis.html has some links to more detail. This can be done directly using reputable credit and debit cards from https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp or if you wish to pay a lot extra, via one of the commercial sites like Ancestry. See http://www.freebmd.org.uk/Certificates.html about what is on certificates. Some Americans who do not like using credit cards online or find it difficult making payments in UK currency have ordered certificates using an agency based in USA which specialises in the service, and which is intermediate in price between direct ordering from GRO and using the commercial genealogy providers. I expect someone on the list can give you details off-list of someone they recommend. Before 1837 it is more difficult. Some baptism registers show the date of birth as well as the date of baptism. There are many books and articles available about how to research Family History in the UK before 1837. Bear in mind that not all records kept by families are 100% accurate. Some were written up years after the events, and relied on fallible memory. Some people were reluctant to reveal their birth year, or occasionally their marriage year, if correlation of marriage dates and birth dates of first offspring might have proved embarrassing. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff & Jolynn Barneck" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 10:12 PM Subject: [GLA] Actual birth information > The birth information that I've seen so far with regard to Welsh ancestors > includes only baptismal/christening records from the parishes. Since > older people can be listed in the baptism records, how would I know when a > person was actually born--if it's not written already in some family > journal or history record? The people I'm looking at do not appear to be > the gentry, but rather the working class. > > Thanks for your help. > > JoLynn Barneck > -- > > To send to the list send to [email protected] > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > This site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message