Dear Listers When I was at school we had an antique home science centre and were taught how to mangle linen. The large machine with two wooden rollers, both about 6 to 8 inches in diameter, was used to give tablecloths and other linen a sheen after starching. You would place the dry, starched linen and polish the surface in the mangle. Before washing machines were common a smaller gadget with two smaller rollers was used to express water from wet linen, clothes etc. The wringer was attached to the central dividing wall of a pair or metal or concrete troughs used to rinse the washing after it had been boiled in the copper boiler, a large cauldron containing water over a small wood fire or sometimes gas fire. The first trough contained clear rinsing water. After the wringer, the second trough usually contained laundry blue, washed from a solid block of Reckitt's Blue in a small cloth bag. After this, the wet linen would be hung on outside lines, propped up with long gum tree branches. This was how laundry was done in many parts of Australia until the middle of the 20th century and later, and within my living memory. Best wishes to you all for the New Year. Gael in Oz Sent from my iPad

G'day Back in the 1950's (in England) my mother had a square English Electric washing machine, with a wringer mounted on 1 corner. The wringer could be swung so that it was across the laundry tub or along one side of the WM, and it could be operated in either direction, so that the run-off water was delivered to the WM or the laundry tub. Very up-to-date! Dave in Wildest Tasmania

Hi Wendy We called this the "copper" - because inside the concrete was a copper bowl which held the washing. Underneath was a fireplace which heated the water in the bowl - see http://www.1900s.org.uk/copper-water-heater.htm When we moved into our Hackney terraced house in 1972, there was a small extension on the first floor roof which held a rather more modern "copper" like this http://gdlauctions.com.au/files/cache/40af1aa0d10e9d8fc78ca4c1ef4da443.jpg I fancied using it on the patio as a container for flowers, but the builders sold it to a scrap metal merchant while we were out! Best wishes Anna At 19:55 03/01/2015, WLawday via wrote: >Growing up in rural Glamorgan in the 1950s, I remember my mother boiling >washing in a huge concrete 'bowl', built into the outhouse, where a fire was >lit underneath it. I think my gran also had one in her terraced house in >Barry, in what she called 'the scullery'. Does anyone know what they were >called? > >In those days the laundry service used to call weekly [?Vaughans of >Canton}, so Mum didn't have to wash large items such as bedding. > >Mum had unexpected twins in 1944, in a farmhouse with no electricity or >running water - the 'good old days' for mothers! > >Wendy >-- > >To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com >GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at >http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html >- > >A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > >- >A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, >may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > >- >The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We had a Rayburn,an old aluminium caldron, a mangle which I loved using as a child and an electric Flatley airier/drier. And this was in the 1960s. Sent from my iPad

Curiously, there seems to be no Keturah Mariah Young born in Wales around 1874 - indeed the only Keturah Young was born in Chesterton district near Cambridge in 1871, and her middle name was Minnie. (Source - FreeBMD). However, allowing for the customary flexibility of young ladies in declaring their ages, you might like to look at Keturah Maria YOUNG born June quarter 1868 in Crickhowell registration district. In 1891 census she was born Brynmawr, Breconshire and working as a parlour maid in Cotham Road, Westbury on Trym, Bristol. Brynmawr was certainly an area from which coal mining families migrated to Ohio. In 1881 she was in the 'New Orphan Houses' in Bristol, commonly known as the Muller Homes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orphan_Houses,_Ashley_Down,_Bristol Muller wrote in his 1889 report: "The girls who are received into the establishment, are kept till they are able to go to service. Our aim is to keep them till they shall have been sufficiently qualified for situations, and especially, also, till they are strong enough to go out, as far as we are able to judge. We uniformly prefer fitting the girls for service, instead of apprenticing them to businesses, as being generally far better for their bodies and their souls." In 1871 census she was age 2 in Bailey Street, Brynmawr with father George Young 45 b Badgeworthy, Gloucestershire, a currier, his young wife Rebecca, 26 b Ely, Cambridgeshire, an older half-brother George Young 15 b Llanelly, Breconshire (the parish Brynmawr was mainly in), older brother Alfred Charles Gibbs, 5, and a younger sister Drusilla Mary age 7 months. Rebecca Priscilla YOUNG age 27 died in September quarter 1872 in Crickhowell district, and George Young age 51 in the same district in March quarter 1878. George Young had married Rebecca Priscilla GIBBS in September quarter 1867 in Crickhowell district. The only Rebecca Priscilla I can find of the right age was Rebecca Priscilla PARSONS who in 1851 was daughter of a shoemaker in Peterborough. Same trade. However this may well be a false lead. A Charles GIBBS died age 22 in Crickhowell district in September quarter 1867. He may well have married Rebecca HAYLOCK in Pontypridd registration district in December quarter 1864 There were three Rebecca HAYLOCK births in Ely registration district in Jun qr 1840, Dec qr 1841 and 1848. In 1861 a Rebecca Precilla HAYLOCK age '17', said to be born in Boston, Lincolnshire, was a servant in the household of Robert Cass,41, a Wesleyan Methodist minister, in St James Street, Monmouth. Mr Cass had a 5-year-old son born in Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, which GENUKI tells me is 7 miles south-west of Ely. Wesleyan ministers typically moved every 3 years. In 1851 a Rebecca HAYLOCK age 9 was an inmate in the North Witchford Union Workhouse, Doddington, Cambridgeshire, apparently born in 'Manea, Cambridgeshire'. Cambridgeshire BMDs are indexed so that you can search and order certificates direct from https://www.camdex.org.uk/search.cfm Let's hope that this is some help. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dai & Angela Bevan via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 7:00 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Keturah > David, > I see you have had your answer already. You might like to know thought > that you do not need Ancestry or any other paid site for the > information, it is freely available on Familysearch. In this case you > cannot see an image of the document, but for many states you can. > > Name: Samuel Edward Lewis > Spouse's Name: Keturah Mariah Young > Spouse's Birth Date: 1874 > Spouse's Age: 18 > Event Date: 27 Apr 1892 > Event Place: Trumbull Co., Ohio > Marital Status: Single > Spouse's Marital Status: Single > > Dai Bevan > > On 03/01/2015 17:06, David Cole via wrote: >> I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me >> find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 >> from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s >> where he was born. They had five children: >> Raymond A born Ohio 1893, >> Viola D in Indiana 1895 >> Arthur – 1897 in Indians >> Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania >> Frank S – 1908 in Ohio >> >> Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when >> ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one >> week-end. >> >> David >> >> >> > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all that replied. That would make sense. I find her oldest daughter living with her father in law on Millicent street and her infant son, sister (who was also widowed in the same incident) and her sisters child living with her at 56 Bridge street In st. Mary's parish. I believe that BOB SANDERS' said that she did not apply for aid from the cardiff pilotage board (I do not believe it existed in 1851?) and he was listed as a Hobbler, stevedor, laborourer (several different sources) so he wouldn't have been eligible anyway.... I guess she took in laundry until she married Thomas Morse who's nephew ended up teaching my great grandfather to be a. cardiff channel Pilot. He went on to own his own cutter named the crystal spring! ~Sarah

David, I see you have had your answer already. You might like to know thought that you do not need Ancestry or any other paid site for the information, it is freely available on Familysearch. In this case you cannot see an image of the document, but for many states you can. Name: Samuel Edward Lewis Spouse's Name: Keturah Mariah Young Spouse's Birth Date: 1874 Spouse's Age: 18 Event Date: 27 Apr 1892 Event Place: Trumbull Co., Ohio Marital Status: Single Spouse's Marital Status: Single Dai Bevan On 03/01/2015 17:06, David Cole via wrote: > I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s where he was born. They had five children: > Raymond A born Ohio 1893, > Viola D in Indiana 1895 > Arthur – 1897 in Indians > Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania > Frank S – 1908 in Ohio > > Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one week-end. > > David > > >

The image for this marriage can be seen in the db Ohio, County Marriages, 1789-1997 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XZYK-BL6 free there is sometimes a registration required but not I think with this db. Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Dai & Angela Bevan via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > David, > I see you have had your answer already. You might like to know thought > that you do not need Ancestry or any other paid site for the > information, it is freely available on Familysearch. In this case you > cannot see an image of the document, but for many states you can. > > Name: Samuel Edward Lewis > Spouse's Name: Keturah Mariah Young > Spouse's Birth Date: 1874 > Spouse's Age: 18 > Event Date: 27 Apr 1892 > Event Place: Trumbull Co., Ohio > Marital Status: Single > Spouse's Marital Status: Single > > Dai Bevan > > On 03/01/2015 17:06, David Cole via wrote: >> I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s where he was born. They had five children: >> Raymond A born Ohio 1893, >> Viola D in Indiana 1895 >> Arthur – 1897 in Indians >> Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania >> Frank S – 1908 in Ohio >> >> Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one week-end. >> >> David >> >> >> > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s where he was born. They had five children: Raymond A born Ohio 1893, Viola D in Indiana 1895 Arthur – 1897 in Indians Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania Frank S – 1908 in Ohio Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one week-end. David --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

I remember all the washing equipment my mother used over 60 years ago. Mangle, wringer (something different to a mangle), dolly tub (not forgetting the dolly blue), posser etc. This was in UK. What I understand a mangle to be is a heavy cast iron contraption with big wooden rollers such as this: http://www.1900s.org.uk/mangle.htm A wringer was something far less substantial made of steel with rubber or rubber like rollers. This is a more recent version of a wringer: http://www.disasterstuff.com/store/pc/Hand-Wringer-p1171.htm#.VKga5ZVybIU David -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Helen D'All via Sent: 03 January 2015 16:01 To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GLA] Helen and others Re: Mangle I honestly don't know the correct term Mona - off the top of my head I would have said presser or ironer ... and I am not sure about Canadians and usage of the term mangle as opposed to wringer ......... my Mum and most of our family friends at the time were British war brides .... "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > Subject: Helen and others Re: [GLA] Mangle > From: mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:50:41 -0600 > To: nell1@sympatico.ca; WLS-GLAMFHS-DISCUSSION-GROUP-L@rootsweb.com > > That makes sense that Canadians would call it a mangle, if that was the UK term. My grandmother used her "wringer washer" until 1994, when she moved in with us. It still did the job, and she hung her clothes on a clothesline outside. It was at least 43 years old, maybe more. > > So, now I am curious--what do/did the UK and Canada called the the we in the US call a mangle-the thing used for pressing/ironing clothes and flat items, such as sheets? > > Either one would "mangle" you if it had half a chance! > > Mona > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:51 AM, "Helen D'All via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > In our house the mangle-equipped washer disappeared with the advent of the newer, more powerful spin-dry washer accompanied by a dryer. > > > > > > > > "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:39:53 +0000 > > From: jtedmunds@frontier.com > > To: nell1@sympatico.ca > > Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle > > > > We still have a mangle in my parents basement.Why did women quit using them? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:13 AM, Helen D'All via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > Good morning & a very Happy New YearI'm afraid I did not see (?) the original mention of 'mangle' but thought this might apply - we have been in Canada since the early '50s and our Mum's first washing machine (she was so excited) here had a mangle attached on the top.Helen"draco dormiens nunquam titillandus"> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 05:03:43 -0600> CC: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle> From: glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Hello All, and Happy New Year from the US,> > I was going to answer the question about the mangle, but Pamela beat me to it, and I would have been wrong, because a mangle in the UK is not the same as a mangle here! (Imagine that! Ha, ha!) Anyway, although I doubt I will run across this in my own family history, I learned something new. > > A mangle in the US is a machine used to press or iron laundry. The mother of a childhood friend of mine had one in the 50s-60s. That is the only one I have ever seen in common household use, but I believe t! hey! > > still use them in commercial laundries. What you call a mangle, we would call a wringer. My grandmother used one until her mid-90s. Both were dangerous to use! You can google 'mangle' and see photos of both things.> > Thank you,> > Mona> > Sent from my iPad> > On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Pamela Marsden via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote:> > > I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > > water from wet laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > > frame and was operated by turning a handle.> > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sarah Crellin via> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM> > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright> > > > Happy New Year!> > I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of > > the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > > in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a! ma! > > ngle is provided, and other > > requisites for the benefit of the > > wido ws" <snip>> > March 8, 1851> > The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the > > Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel.> > So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be safe to assume that > > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers > > considering that the vicar was raising money? One of the hobblers was John > > Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been > > related. If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death > > certificate ?> > What would a mangle be? And would there be any church records of this > > happening?> > > > Sarah> > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html> > -> > > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/> > > > -> > ! 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I had a gg-aunt in the Muller Homes in the late 1870s - the homes, when I enquired, had all the paperwork for each and every child placed in their care - I was sent a wealth of information, correspondence, certificates (both medical & bmd) etc even accounts of each family member, their location & why they could not take her in - it was a turning point in my research. There was/is? a fee, but in my case, well worth it "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > To: daibevan@clara.co.uk; glamorgan@rootsweb.com; dmcole540@btinternet.com > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 20:43:34 +0000 > Subject: Re: [GLA] Keturah > From: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > Curiously, there seems to be no Keturah Mariah Young born in Wales around > 1874 - indeed the only Keturah Young was born in Chesterton district near > Cambridge in 1871, and her middle name was Minnie. (Source - FreeBMD). > > However, allowing for the customary flexibility of young ladies in declaring > their ages, you might like to look at Keturah Maria YOUNG born June quarter > 1868 in Crickhowell registration district. In 1891 census she was born > Brynmawr, Breconshire and working as a parlour maid in Cotham Road, Westbury > on Trym, Bristol. > > Brynmawr was certainly an area from which coal mining families migrated to > Ohio. > > In 1881 she was in the 'New Orphan Houses' in Bristol, commonly known as the > Muller Homes. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Orphan_Houses,_Ashley_Down,_Bristol > > Muller wrote in his 1889 report: "The girls who are received into the > establishment, are kept till they are able to go to service. Our aim is to > keep them till they shall have been sufficiently qualified for situations, > and especially, also, till they are strong enough to go out, as far as we > are able to judge. We uniformly prefer fitting the girls for service, > instead of apprenticing them to businesses, as being generally far better > for their bodies and their souls." > > In 1871 census she was age 2 in Bailey Street, Brynmawr with father George > Young 45 b Badgeworthy, Gloucestershire, a currier, his young wife Rebecca, > 26 b Ely, Cambridgeshire, an older half-brother George Young 15 b Llanelly, > Breconshire (the parish Brynmawr was mainly in), older brother Alfred > Charles Gibbs, 5, and a younger sister Drusilla Mary age 7 months. > > Rebecca Priscilla YOUNG age 27 died in September quarter 1872 in Crickhowell > district, and George Young age 51 in the same district in March quarter > 1878. > > George Young had married Rebecca Priscilla GIBBS in September quarter 1867 > in Crickhowell district. > > The only Rebecca Priscilla I can find of the right age was Rebecca Priscilla > PARSONS who in 1851 was daughter of a shoemaker in Peterborough. Same trade. > However this may well be a false lead. > > A Charles GIBBS died age 22 in Crickhowell district in September quarter > 1867. He may well have married Rebecca HAYLOCK in Pontypridd registration > district in December quarter 1864 There were three Rebecca HAYLOCK births in > Ely registration district in Jun qr 1840, Dec qr 1841 and 1848. > > In 1861 a Rebecca Precilla HAYLOCK age '17', said to be born in Boston, > Lincolnshire, was a servant in the household of Robert Cass,41, a Wesleyan > Methodist minister, in St James Street, Monmouth. Mr Cass had a 5-year-old > son born in Haddenham, Cambridgeshire, which GENUKI tells me is 7 miles > south-west of Ely. Wesleyan ministers typically moved every 3 years. > > In 1851 a Rebecca HAYLOCK age 9 was an inmate in the North Witchford Union > Workhouse, Doddington, Cambridgeshire, apparently born in 'Manea, > Cambridgeshire'. > > Cambridgeshire BMDs are indexed so that you can search and order > certificates direct from https://www.camdex.org.uk/search.cfm > > Let's hope that this is some help. > > Jeff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dai & Angela Bevan via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > To: <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [GLA] Keturah > > > > David, > > I see you have had your answer already. You might like to know thought > > that you do not need Ancestry or any other paid site for the > > information, it is freely available on Familysearch. In this case you > > cannot see an image of the document, but for many states you can. > > > > Name: Samuel Edward Lewis > > Spouse's Name: Keturah Mariah Young > > Spouse's Birth Date: 1874 > > Spouse's Age: 18 > > Event Date: 27 Apr 1892 > > Event Place: Trumbull Co., Ohio > > Marital Status: Single > > Spouse's Marital Status: Single > > > > Dai Bevan > > > > On 03/01/2015 17:06, David Cole via wrote: > >> I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me > >> find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 > >> from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s > >> where he was born. They had five children: > >> Raymond A born Ohio 1893, > >> Viola D in Indiana 1895 > >> Arthur – 1897 in Indians > >> Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania > >> Frank S – 1908 in Ohio > >> > >> Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when > >> ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one > >> week-end. > >> > >> David > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > > - > > > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > > > - > > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > > > - > > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Growing up in rural Glamorgan in the 1950s, I remember my mother boiling washing in a huge concrete 'bowl', built into the outhouse, where a fire was lit underneath it. I think my gran also had one in her terraced house in Barry, in what she called 'the scullery'. Does anyone know what they were called? In those days the laundry service used to call weekly [?Vaughans of Canton}, so Mum didn't have to wash large items such as bedding. Mum had unexpected twins in 1944, in a farmhouse with no electricity or running water - the 'good old days' for mothers! Wendy

I am sure I remember reading a similar case some time ago. A mangle was bought for a widow because it would provide her with an income. People would take their washing and pay a small sum for it to be put through the mangle. It's quite an old device OED Formerly: an oblong rectangular wooden chest filled with stones, worked backwards and forwards by a wheel with a rack-and-pinion arrangement (or, earlier, by straps wound round a roller), and resting upon two cylinders, which were thus rolled with great pressure over the fabric spread upon a polished table beneath; latterly (now chiefly hist.) consisting of two or more cylinders revolving against each other within a frame, either free-standing or (often known as a wringer) attached to a washing machine. 1696 C'tess of Rothes Let. in R. K. Marshall Days of Duchess Anne (1973) 49 The Countess of Rothes has caused this bearer come to Edinburgh express with the Mangle which her ladyship promised to send to Her Grace. Martin Briscoe Fort William martin@mbriscoe.me.uk -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Crellin via Sent: 02 January 2015 19:32 To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright Happy New Year! I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a mangle is provided, and other requisites for the benefit of the widows

In the US, the rollers that you are referring to were part of my grandmother's and mother's washing machines in the 1950s They disappeared on the automatic washers. On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:10 AM, Jeff Coleman via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: There seems to have been a natural assumption that widows with children would get an income from taking in laundry. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Marsden via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: "Sarah Crellin" <sesewills@yahoo.com>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright >I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > water from wet laundry.  It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > frame and was operated by turning a handle. > > Pamela > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarah Crellin via > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright > > Happy New Year! > I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of > the late  Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a mangle is provided, and other > requisites for the benefit of the widows" <snip> > March 8, 1851 > The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the > Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel. > So I am asking for advise.  Do you think it would be safe to assume that > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers > considering that the vicar was raising money?  One of the hobblers was > John > Morgan.  I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been > related.  If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death > certificate ? > What would a mangle be? And would there be any church records of this > happening? > > Sarah > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8859 - Release Date: 01/03/15 > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There seems to have been a natural assumption that widows with children would get an income from taking in laundry. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Marsden via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: "Sarah Crellin" <sesewills@yahoo.com>; <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright >I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > water from wet laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > frame and was operated by turning a handle. > > Pamela > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sarah Crellin via > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright > > Happy New Year! > I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of > the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a mangle is provided, and other > requisites for the benefit of the widows" <snip> > March 8, 1851 > The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the > Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel. > So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be safe to assume that > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers > considering that the vicar was raising money? One of the hobblers was > John > Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been > related. If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death > certificate ? > What would a mangle be? And would there be any church records of this > happening? > > Sarah > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8859 - Release Date: 01/03/15 > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

info sent to David off-list "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 17:06:52 +0000 > Subject: [GLA] Keturah > From: glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > I wonder whether any one with access to American sources could help me find the maiden name of Keturah Lewis who emigrated to the States in 1891 from Wales? She married Samuel E Lewis in 1892, possibly in Ohio as that’s where he was born. They had five children: > Raymond A born Ohio 1893, > Viola D in Indiana 1895 > Arthur – 1897 in Indians > Mabel F -1906 in Pennsylvania > Frank S – 1908 in Ohio > > Managed to glean this information but no more from Census returns when ‘Find My Past’ offered free access to some American sources one week-end. > > David > > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I honestly don't know the correct term Mona - off the top of my head I would have said presser or ironer ... and I am not sure about Canadians and usage of the term mangle as opposed to wringer ......... my Mum and most of our family friends at the time were British war brides .... "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > Subject: Helen and others Re: [GLA] Mangle > From: mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:50:41 -0600 > To: nell1@sympatico.ca; WLS-GLAMFHS-DISCUSSION-GROUP-L@rootsweb.com > > That makes sense that Canadians would call it a mangle, if that was the UK term. My grandmother used her "wringer washer" until 1994, when she moved in with us. It still did the job, and she hung her clothes on a clothesline outside. It was at least 43 years old, maybe more. > > So, now I am curious--what do/did the UK and Canada called the the we in the US call a mangle-the thing used for pressing/ironing clothes and flat items, such as sheets? > > Either one would "mangle" you if it had half a chance! > > Mona > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:51 AM, "Helen D'All via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > In our house the mangle-equipped washer disappeared with the advent of the newer, more powerful spin-dry washer accompanied by a dryer. > > > > > > > > "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:39:53 +0000 > > From: jtedmunds@frontier.com > > To: nell1@sympatico.ca > > Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle > > > > We still have a mangle in my parents basement.Why did women quit using them? > > Thanks, > > Tim > > > > > > On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:13 AM, Helen D'All via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > > > > > Good morning & a very Happy New YearI'm afraid I did not see (?) the original mention of 'mangle' but thought this might apply - we have been in Canada since the early '50s and our Mum's first washing machine (she was so excited) here had a mangle attached on the top.Helen"draco dormiens nunquam titillandus"> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 05:03:43 -0600> CC: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle> From: glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Hello All, and Happy New Year from the US,> > I was going to answer the question about the mangle, but Pamela beat me to it, and I would have been wrong, because a mangle in the UK is not the same as a mangle here! (Imagine that! Ha, ha!) Anyway, although I doubt I will run across this in my own family history, I learned something new. > > A mangle in the US is a machine used to press or iron laundry. The mother of a childhood friend of mine had one in the 50s-60s. That is the only one I have ever seen in common household use, but I believe they! > > still use them in commercial laundries. What you call a mangle, we would call a wringer. My grandmother used one until her mid-90s. Both were dangerous to use! You can google 'mangle' and see photos of both things.> > Thank you,> > Mona> > Sent from my iPad> > On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Pamela Marsden via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote:> > > I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > > water from wet laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > > frame and was operated by turning a handle.> > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sarah Crellin via> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM> > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright> > > > Happy New Year!> > I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of > > the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > > in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a ma! > > ngle is provided, and other > > requisites for the benefit of the wido > > ws" <snip>> > March 8, 1851> > The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the > > Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel.> > So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be safe to assume that > > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers > > considering that the vicar was raising money? One of the hobblers was John > > Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been > > related. If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death > > certificate ?> > What would a mangle be? 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I used to collect industrial and historical equipment. I actually have a 1930's mangle in my garage and it is exactly as other's have described! Cheryl Long Beach, CA On Jan 3, 2015, at 8:42 AM, railton.david via wrote: > I remember all the washing equipment my mother used over 60 years ago. > Mangle, wringer (something different to a mangle), dolly tub (not forgetting > the dolly blue), posser etc. This was in UK. > > What I understand a mangle to be is a heavy cast iron contraption with big > wooden rollers such as this: http://www.1900s.org.uk/mangle.htm > > A wringer was something far less substantial made of steel with rubber or > rubber like rollers. This is a more recent version of a wringer: > http://www.disasterstuff.com/store/pc/Hand-Wringer-p1171.htm#.VKga5ZVybIU > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Helen D'All via > Sent: 03 January 2015 16:01 > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [GLA] Helen and others Re: Mangle > > I honestly don't know the correct term Mona - off the top of my head I would > have said presser or ironer ... > and I am not sure about Canadians and usage of the term mangle as opposed > to wringer ......... my Mum and most of our family friends at the time were > British war brides .... > > > "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" > > > >> Subject: Helen and others Re: [GLA] Mangle >> From: mona_sydd_yma@yahoo.com >> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 09:50:41 -0600 >> To: nell1@sympatico.ca; WLS-GLAMFHS-DISCUSSION-GROUP-L@rootsweb.com >> >> That makes sense that Canadians would call it a mangle, if that was the UK > term. My grandmother used her "wringer washer" until 1994, when she moved in > with us. It still did the job, and she hung her clothes on a clothesline > outside. It was at least 43 years old, maybe more. >> >> So, now I am curious--what do/did the UK and Canada called the the we in > the US call a mangle-the thing used for pressing/ironing clothes and flat > items, such as sheets? >> >> Either one would "mangle" you if it had half a chance! >> >> Mona >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Jan 3, 2015, at 7:51 AM, "Helen D'All via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > wrote: >> >>> In our house the mangle-equipped washer disappeared with the advent of > the newer, more powerful spin-dry washer accompanied by a dryer. >>> >>> >>> >>> "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" >>> >>> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:39:53 +0000 >>> From: jtedmunds@frontier.com >>> To: nell1@sympatico.ca >>> Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle >>> >>> We still have a mangle in my parents basement.Why did women quit using > them? >>> Thanks, >>> Tim >>> >>> >>> On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:13 AM, Helen D'All via > <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Good morning & a very Happy New YearI'm afraid I did not see (?) the > original mention of 'mangle' but thought this might apply - we have been in > Canada since the early '50s and our Mum's first washing machine (she was so > excited) here had a mangle attached on the top.Helen"draco dormiens nunquam > titillandus"> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 05:03:43 -0600> CC: > GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle> From: > glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Hello All, and Happy New Year from the US,> > I > was going to answer the question about the mangle, but Pamela beat me to it, > and I would have been wrong, because a mangle in the UK is not the same as a > mangle here! (Imagine that! Ha, ha!) Anyway, although I doubt I will run > across this in my own family history, I learned something new. > > A mangle > in the US is a machine used to press or iron laundry. The mother of a > childhood friend of mine had one in the 50s-60s. That is the only one I have > ever seen in common household use, but I believe t! > hey! >>> still use them in commercial laundries. What you call a mangle, we > would call a wringer. My grandmother used one until her mid-90s. Both were > dangerous to use! You can google 'mangle' and see photos of both things.> > > Thank you,> > Mona> > Sent from my iPad> > On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:59 AM, > Pamela Marsden via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote:> > > I can't help you > with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > > water from wet > laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > > frame and > was operated by turning a handle.> > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > -----Original > Message----- > > From: Sarah Crellin via> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 > 7:32 PM> > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams > and Caroline Wright> > > > Happy New Year!> > I have found in the welsh > newspapers online that "through the kindness of > > the late Rev. W.L. > Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > > in collecting a > sufficient sum of money, a! > ma! >>> ngle is provided, and other > > requisites for the benefit of the >>> wido ws" <snip>> > March 8, 1851> > The four gobblers were lost in > January during a gale when there ship the > > Liskeard went Down in the > Bristol Channel.> > So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be > safe to assume that > > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the > four lost hobblers > > considering that the vicar was raising money? One of > the hobblers was John > > Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps > they may have been > > related. If the bodies were never recovered would > there be a death > > certificate ?> > What would a mangle be? 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I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove water from wet laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal frame and was operated by turning a handle. Pamela -----Original Message----- From: Sarah Crellin via Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright Happy New Year! I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a mangle is provided, and other requisites for the benefit of the widows" <snip> March 8, 1851 The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel. So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be safe to assume that there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers considering that the vicar was raising money? One of the hobblers was John Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been related. If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death certificate ? What would a mangle be? And would there be any church records of this happening? Sarah -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8859 - Release Date: 01/03/15

In our house the mangle-equipped washer disappeared with the advent of the newer, more powerful spin-dry washer accompanied by a dryer. "draco dormiens nunquam titillandus" Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:39:53 +0000 From: jtedmunds@frontier.com To: nell1@sympatico.ca Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle We still have a mangle in my parents basement.Why did women quit using them? Thanks, Tim On Saturday, January 3, 2015 8:13 AM, Helen D'All via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: Good morning & a very Happy New YearI'm afraid I did not see (?) the original mention of 'mangle' but thought this might apply - we have been in Canada since the early '50s and our Mum's first washing machine (she was so excited) here had a mangle attached on the top.Helen"draco dormiens nunquam titillandus"> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 05:03:43 -0600> CC: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [GLA] Mangle> From: glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > Hello All, and Happy New Year from the US,> > I was going to answer the question about the mangle, but Pamela beat me to it, and I would have been wrong, because a mangle in the UK is not the same as a mangle here! (Imagine that! Ha, ha!) Anyway, although I doubt I will run across this in my own family history, I learned something new. > > A mangle in the US is a machine used to press or iron laundry. The mother of a childhood friend of mine had one in the 50s-60s. That is the only one I have ever seen in common household use, but I believe they still use them in commercial laundries. What you call a mangle, we would call a wringer. My grandmother used one until her mid-90s. Both were dangerous to use! You can google 'mangle' and see photos of both things.> > Thank you,> > Mona> > Sent from my iPad> > On Jan 3, 2015, at 3:59 AM, Pamela Marsden via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote:> > > I can't help you with the church records, but a mangle was used to remove > > water from wet laundry. It consisted of two wooden rollers set in a metal > > frame and was operated by turning a handle.> > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sarah Crellin via> > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 7:32 PM> > To: GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GLA] Charlotte Williams and Caroline Wright> > > > Happy New Year!> > I have found in the welsh newspapers online that "through the kindness of > > the late Rev. W.L. Morgan the vicar of St.mary's who has been most active > > in collecting a sufficient sum of money, a mangle is provided, and other > > requisites for the benefit of the widows" <snip>> > March 8, 1851> > The four gobblers were lost in January during a gale when there ship the > > Liskeard went Down in the Bristol Channel.> > So I am asking for advise. Do you think it would be safe to assume that > > there may have been a memorial at st. Mary's for the four lost hobblers > > considering that the vicar was raising money? One of the hobblers was John > > Morgan. I know it's a common surname but perhaps they may have been > > related. If the bodies were never recovered would there be a death > > certificate ?> > What would a mangle be? And would there be any church records of this > > happening?> > > > Sarah> > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html> > -> > > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/> > > > -> > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/> > > > -> > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html> > > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -----> > No virus found in this message.> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4257/8859 - Release Date: 01/03/15 > > > > -- > > > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at> > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html> > -> > > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/> > > > -> > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/> > > > -> > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages> > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html> > > > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html> -> > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/> > -> A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/> > -> The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are athttp://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html-A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/-A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/-The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pageshttp://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html andhttp://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html-------------------------------To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message