Glamorgan FHS have transcribed the MIs for Oystermouth and are available in booklet form either by post or using the GFHS online shop at www.glamfhs.org.uk Rosemary Smith

Graham, Have you checked that they are not on the findagrave site? If not, and you know where they are buried, you can add an entry to the cemetery/churchyard in question and then request a picture. You may or may not be lucky that someone local will put the picture on the site. Dai Bevan On 04/02/2015 16:08, Graham Prosser via wrote: > Dear Rob, > Further to your e-mail on above subject, could you possibly tell me how one > would go about actually accessing individual items....eg MI's for > Oystermouth church.There are a number of MI's that I would be interested to > see. > I presume one would need to actually visit the Cardiff library (which would > be difficult for me as I live in North Devon! > I look forward to hearing from you, when convenient, > Kind regards, > Graham. > >

Dear Graham,Take the  next boat straight across the Bristol Channel. That's how all those N Devon and N Somerset people got over to find work in the mines!! Sadly they don't seem to run these days. Sue   From: Graham Prosser via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: Rob Weeks via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, 4 February 2015, 16:08 Subject: [GLA] David Jones Wallington Dear Rob, Further to your e-mail on above subject, could you possibly tell me how one would go about actually accessing individual items....eg MI's for Oystermouth church.There are a number of MI's that I would be interested to see. I presume one would need to actually visit the Cardiff library (which would be difficult for me as I live in North Devon! I look forward to hearing from you, when convenient, Kind regards, Graham. GRAHAM PROSSER. 56. BABBAGES. BICKINGTON. BARNSTAPLE. NDEVON. EX312LW. Tel No (01271) 373944 e-mail  graham@barum.org.uk -- To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html - A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ - A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ - The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Rob, Further to your e-mail on above subject, could you possibly tell me how one would go about actually accessing individual items....eg MI's for Oystermouth church.There are a number of MI's that I would be interested to see. I presume one would need to actually visit the Cardiff library (which would be difficult for me as I live in North Devon! I look forward to hearing from you, when convenient, Kind regards, Graham. GRAHAM PROSSER. 56. BABBAGES. BICKINGTON. BARNSTAPLE. NDEVON. EX312LW. Tel No (01271) 373944 e-mail graham@barum.org.uk

While scanning through the Dictionary of Welsh Biography on the NLW site , I came across a reference to David Jones , Wallington who " made abstracts of every Welsh will down to 1650 and every South Wales will down to 1700" . Most of the material is at Cardiff City Library with some at NLW - C.C. Library index is at http://apps.cardiff.gov.uk/WebCat_Images/PDF/PDF107.pdf I have not studied this in detail but there seems to be a wealth of information in this collection as he used the wills to construct pedigrees and also indexed monumental inscriptions. As this was done in the years 1879 -1890 some of the MI's may be no longer available. It occurred to me that this would be a very good subject for a joint FHS project as some material covers the whole of Wales. I do not have the necessary skills to organise this but would be very willing to assist in indexing. There also seems to be other pedigrees in the archives, constructed by various individuals which would be useful to many researchers particularly if they were collated and the original material checked by an FHS project. Rob Weeks, Preston

Hi All, i would like to thank Evelyn, Jeff and Robert for their help in pointing me in the correct direction re these burial. Jeff pointed out that the Thornehill Cemetery were the keepers of the records. I contacted them Friday Australian time and they responded within hours with the details of the burials in the Cathays Cemetery. the problem for me was I have very little knowledge of Cardiff having visited it way back in 1972. I googled the cemeteries of Cardiff and checked out Cathays but there was no deseased search option and no link for infomation for the same to Thornehill. This is where local knowledge comes into play. in Australia those cemeteried that have computer data bases unsually have a desearse search option but again its working out where and in which cemetery to look. I also found the death registration for the relative who entered a convent it occured in Staffordshire now to find the convent! Best Regards Denis Edwards --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

 If one of your relatives who may   have been planted in any of the Cardiff Cemetaries like Cathays [open in 1859] andThe Western Cemetary,The Records of who was buried where are kept in Thornhill Cremetorium,Caerphilly Road,Cardiff.They may give you the information over the phone for free?Otherwise,They DO Charge a fee for dishing out information.They gave me lots of info on my lot,when I started this hobby back in 1982, for free.But alas,That was THEN! Do a "Google"for information of their website/Phone number. P.S; 6 of my great,grandparents are Planted in Cathays Cemetary.The other 2 are in Western Cemetary.All in Cardiff. HTH;Graham.  Graham Williams, Glam;FHS# 551. of Canton,Cardiff.

Hi Larry, Bala and Cynwyd are the names of two villages on the river Dee in north Wales. Bala Cynwyd in Pennsylvania is named after them. As previously noted, by John Ball, Bala is a place-name element that signifies a water route between two lakes. Cynwyd is the name of a Welsh saint that is also present in the place named Llangynwyd near Maesteg, south Wales. Best wishes, Deric John. -- websites: Place-names in south Wales - http://someplacenamesinsouthwales.4t.com Enwau Lleoedd - https://sites.google.com/site/enwaulleoedddecymru/home Dylan and the Bont - https://sites.google.com/site/dylanthomaspontardulais/home/dylan-and-the-bont

Dear Larry, Apart from being existing Welsh place-names, the words Bala and Cynwyd have their own meanings: Y Bala - 'isthmus, route between two lakes or areas of wet ground' Cynwyd - personal name. The identity of Cynwyd is unknown, but spelling variants of this name appear in documents going back to the late 13th century. Source: "Dictionary of the Place-Names of Wales", by Hywel Wyn Owen and Richard Morgan, Gomer Press, Llandysul, 2008. Kind regards, John -------------------- John Ball, Brecon, Mid-Wales, UK E-mail: john@jlb2011.co.uk Personal Homepage: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk Images of Wales: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/walespic/ Welsh Family History Archive: http://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/ Blog: http://johnofbrecon.com Webmaster, Breconshire Local & Family History Society http://www.blfhs.co.uk/ GENUKI Breconshire Maintainer: http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/BRE/ Administrator - Powys RootsWeb mailing list -----Original Message----- From: David Rowlands via Sent: Friday, January 30, 2015 10:38 PM To: Larry Thompson Cc: glamorgan mailing list Subject: Re: [GLA] bala cynwyd Larry These are Welsh place-names. Bala is a town in north Wales (more correctly in Welsh 'Y Bala' where the 'Y' is the definite article), and Cynwyd is a another, smaller settlement north of Bala on the back road to the town of Corwen. They are in the valley of the Afon Dyfrdwy (river Dyfrdwy) which, by the time it gets to the sea is called the 'river Dee' by the English. David Canberra > On 31 Jan 2015, at 9:16 am, Larry Thompson via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > Hi group: > The subject is a town in Pennsylvania, US. Is there in interpretation of > the meaning? > > Larry > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Larry These are Welsh place-names. Bala is a town in north Wales (more correctly in Welsh 'Y Bala' where the 'Y' is the definite article), and Cynwyd is a another, smaller settlement north of Bala on the back road to the town of Corwen. They are in the valley of the Afon Dyfrdwy (river Dyfrdwy) which, by the time it gets to the sea is called the 'river Dee' by the English. David Canberra > On 31 Jan 2015, at 9:16 am, Larry Thompson via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi group: > The subject is a town in Pennsylvania, US. Is there in interpretation of > the meaning? > > Larry > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

LOL the real meaning is that Welsh names meant more money in the pocket for developers <G> I will be interested to know what it is in "Real Welsh" Eliz Not Today and Not without a Fight (Anon) For all that has been, thanks. For all that will be, yes. (Dag Hammarskjold) On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Larry Thompson via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi group: > The subject is a town in Pennsylvania, US. Is there in interpretation of > the meaning? > > Larry > -- > My genealogy page > http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ > Allegheny County Maps page > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/ > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi group: The subject is a town in Pennsylvania, US. Is there in interpretation of the meaning? Larry -- My genealogy page http://twothompsongenealogies.com/ Allegheny County Maps page http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lt0168/maps/

Thank you Di and Raynor for information on Brentwood, It was indeed helpful. Regards Brenda Melbourne

Hi Evelyn thanks for your reply. your correct I always miss spell Glanville as granville. I have all the family detail on this couple but don't know where they were buried. They had a very large family wirh two sons becoming denitists in Cardiff. Is it possible to write to the main cemetery in Cardiff to enquire about burials. am assuming its the CATHAYS Cemetery. Best regards Denis --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Speaking as someone with ancestors who lived in 'one of the very big houses at the bottom of Cathedral Road' my personal experience suggests that they, too, were also buried in Cathays. Only those of my ancestors who lived east of Llandaff Road, for instance in Pencisely Road and Romilly Road, seem to have been buried at Llandaff. Robert -----Original Message----- From: glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:glamorgan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Coleman via It is very likely that burials 1900 to 1940 would have been in Cathays cemetery, unless they lived west of the river Taff in which case Western Cemetery at Green Farm Road, Ely might be a possibility, or maybe even Llandaff Cathedral. As in 1911 they seem to have lived in one of the very big houses at the bottom of Cathedral Road the latter may be a possibility. Note that in early-mid 20th Century there were Anglican convents in UK, as well as Catholic ones.

Answered off list. Dai On 28/01/2015 23:39, althea.john via wrote: > <javascript:go8861_1101363()> 1851 Wales Census Census & Electoral Rolls > <http://search.ancestry.co.uk/browse/view.aspx?dbid=8861&iid=GLAHO107_2456_2 > 456-0357&pid=15438437&ssrc=&fn=Thomas&ln=Williams&st=g> View Image > > > > >

A simple search on Cardiff cemeteries yields this post http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/971545 which reflects the very helpful service provided in the past to many people, including myself, seeking information about burials and grave locations. Cardiff Council used to have a very helpful website with links to maps of the cemeteries. They appear to have 'upgraded' their web site so it is much less useful, though it may be more accessible on carry-about gadgets of various sorts. However if you go to www.cardiff.gov.uk/ and search for 'cemeteries' you will get to a page listing cemeteries currently in use, and with a 'contact us' facility at the foot of the page. The headquarters of 'Bereavement Services' is at Thornhill Cemetery. Their email address and postal address can be found by searching for 'bereavement'. One thing that some family history researchers often forget is that not all dead bodies are buried or cremated shortly after death. Some principled individuals offer their bodies for use in medical schools for teaching students. It is very likely that burials 1900 to 1940 would have been in Cathays cemetery, unless they lived west of the river Taff in which case Western Cemetery at Green Farm Road, Ely might be a possibility, or maybe even Llandaff Cathedral. As in 1911 they seem to have lived in one of the very big houses at the bottom of Cathedral Road the latter may be a possibility. Note that in early-mid 20th Century there were Anglican convents in UK, as well as Catholic ones. If you have an obituary from a local paper - Western Mail or South Wales Echo probably in Cardiff in 1938 - then it is quite likely that in the preceding weeks there would have been a death notice in the same paper, which may well have given details of the time and location of the funeral. Nazareth House was a Catholic convent and orphanage in Cardiff at the junction of Colum Road and North Road. Welsh Newspapers Online has a notice about the marriage of George Goldfinch Spray in 1895 http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3256750/ART3/Spray at St Peter's Church, which is the Catholic Church off City Road. http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3433029/ART140/Spray has a death announcement for Capt. Glanville Spray of Conway Road http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3443984/ART240/Spray has has a death announcement for Elizabeth widow of Capt Glanville Spray Neither mention funeral arrangements http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3377784/ART227/Spray says when Glanville's funeral leaves the residence but not where he was to be buried. He was buried Saturday 30th September 1905, having died on 21st at his residence. http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3420967/ART114 has the marriage of Capt. Spray's daughter Emily at Conway Road Wesleyan Chapel, which would have been very close to their home. http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3379836/ART262 has the marriage of another daughter, Kate, again at Conway Road chapel. http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3374796/ART257 has the marriage of another daughter, Elizabeth (Beth) also at Conway Road church, so I would guess that Conway Road Wesleyan Methodist Church/Chapel was the family place of worship. I am not aware of any Wesleyan Chapel in Cardiff which had a burial ground at the time, nor any nonconformist chapel in the Canton area with a burial ground, but Canton locals like Graham may know of one. You might find more by careful searching. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Denis Edwards via" <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> To: <GLAMORGAN@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [GLA] Cardiff cemeteries.. > Hi Evelyn > > thanks for your reply. your correct I always miss spell Glanville as > granville. I have all the family detail on this couple but don't know > where > they were buried. They had a very large family wirh two sons becoming > denitists in Cardiff. Is it possible to write to the main cemetery in > Cardiff to enquire about burials. am assuming its the CATHAYS Cemetery. > Best regards > Denis > > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be > found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hi Jill Please see below : Married the tenor (? No such Welsh word as lienor) and talented musician Mr George James GTSC I would like to offer my warmest congratulations. How did the brother have time to (fall in) love with his busy work with many learners Hope this helps Nia Sent from my iPad > On 28 Jan 2015, at 17:48, Jill Muir via <glamorgan@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Welsh speakers, > > Can you please help with a translation please? > > priodwyd y lienor a'r cerddor medrius Mr George James, G.T.S.C. via Google > translate: > > = married the lienor and musician medrius Mr George James, GTSC > > Dy- munaf eu llongyfarch yn y modd: mwyaf cyn- hes. Sut cafoddy brawd > ;?rnser i garu, wys, gan brysurdeb ei waith yn dysgu y fath nifer luosog > > = Must- munaf congratulate them in the way: most pre-hes. How cafoddy > brother;? Rnser to love, summons, from the bustle of his work in such a > large number of learning > > Not a good translation, and I do get the gist but would like some of the > words corrected if possible please. > > Thanks for your time. > > My best wishes, Jill > > > -- > > To send to the list send to glamorgan@rootsweb.com > GLAMORGAN Family History Mailing List archives etc. are at > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/WLS/GLAMORGAN.html > - > > A web site has been prepared to help you use the Glamorgan List > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glamorgan/ > > - > A large amount of information, and a wide variety of useful links, may be found at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/ > > - > The South/West Wales Lookup Exchange and Gareth's Help Pages > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~walesle/wal/AW.html and > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ukwales2/hicks.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GLAMORGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Welsh speakers, Can you please help with a translation please? priodwyd y lienor a'r cerddor medrius Mr George James, G.T.S.C. via Google translate: = married the lienor and musician medrius Mr George James, GTSC Dy- munaf eu llongyfarch yn y modd: mwyaf cyn- hes. Sut cafoddy brawd ;?rnser i garu, wys, gan brysurdeb ei waith yn dysgu y fath nifer luosog = Must- munaf congratulate them in the way: most pre-hes. How cafoddy brother;? Rnser to love, summons, from the bustle of his work in such a large number of learning Not a good translation, and I do get the gist but would like some of the words corrected if possible please. Thanks for your time. My best wishes, Jill