Hi Norma and all the other cousins in WONDER Land- I found in the Gillmore- Carter book that Patrick Gillmore, Jr m 2nd Mary Martin July 1848 widow in Warren Co KY - - - - - -Patrick Gillmore, Jr, and first wife, name unknown, Montgomery Co, KY 1810 census listed two sons and one daughter. Is your Richard Gilmore the one listed in Kentucky Land Grants, Vol 1, Part 1, Chapter IV? Also found 1790 NC Salisbury Dist, Guilford Co Census a Patrick Gilmore, head of family with 7 free white males under 16. This would be Patrick Sr, right? Are we talking same lineage here? Thanks, Pat