Please keep including stories like these...we all have found some ugly skeletons in our closets at times and it is refreshing to hear about a kinsman (or woman) who has lead a life of devotion, love, and joy! But maybe the negative posting was not intended the way it came out, so let's be charitable. Peace! Cheryl ---------- > From: Linda Malloy <lmalloy@primary.net> > To: GILMORE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Cluttering up the List!! > Date: Monday, January 25, 1999 8:22 PM > > EXCUSE ME!?! this list is for us to monitor everyones questions AND their > answers, how else are we to continue to find "cousins" if we can only read a > persons questions and not the answers.? I for one like to read the responses, so > please don't speak for me, I am not included in "us" > > Linda Malloy > > Snorfok@aol.com wrote: > > > Let's use the List properly!! > > Please don't respond to the whole list when you are replying to a person from > > the list. The rest of us who have read the initial posting and have deleted > > it because it doesn't apply to us don't want to have 6 more messages on our e- > > mail list. I say "us" because I don't think I am the only one who thinks this > > way. > > > > Take the time to address your reply to the person who sent it -- NOT THE WHOLE > > LIST. > > > > thank you. >

Sharon explained: >The list is set up so that when you click on reply, it replies to the >list. We discussed this last summer, and most folks wanted the replies >to the list. If you feel your message is not for the entire list, you >will need to address your message to that individual. I for one enjoy >getting all of the messages because I'm hoping someone might say >something about my Joseph. > >Sharon Clark >Gilmore Family List Owner >clarksha@swbell.net > Right. That's the way it should remain. In this instance, most of the cluttering was caused by those who failed to take the time to edit their replies by deleting unnecessary or repetitious content. Jim McDowell jim_mcdowell@sunshine.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Researching these genealogy lines: MCDOWELL line 1: (PEIRCE, MANNING, BOOMER, BORDEN et al) ENG>MA>PA MCDOWELL line 2: (NAGEL, KUHL et al) SCH-HOL>IA>CA MCDOWELL line 3: (GILMORE, ARCHER, NAGEL et al) IRL>MA>NY>IA MCDOWELL line 4: (BELL, FLYNN, MANN, LEWIS, SOMERS, CONGER et al) IRL, ENG, WALES>NY>PA>IA>CA ESPARZA line 1: (ESPARZA, AMARO, ALONZO, GOMEZ, AVILA, et al) ESP>MEX>CO

Does any one know about the Gilmore's from Washington Co Ga. They are on the 1850 Census. James H Gilmore. 43 Elizabeth N. (Mathis) Gilmore .37 Ch-William R.13 Thomas J. 12 Stephen M. 10 Mary L. 9 Ebenezer T.8 Sarah A. 5 James A.4 Nancy E. 2. Eliza C. 4 John N. 14 any help would be appreciated. Ruth Burket

Hi Everyone, The list is set up so that when you click on reply, it replies to the list. We discussed this last summer, and most folks wanted the replies to the list. If you feel your message is not for the entire list, you will need to address your message to that individual. I for one enjoy getting all of the messages because I'm hoping someone might say something about my Joseph. Have a great evening. Warm regards, Sharon Clark Gilmore Family List Owner clarksha@swbell.net

EXCUSE ME!?! this list is for us to monitor everyones questions AND their answers, how else are we to continue to find "cousins" if we can only read a persons questions and not the answers.? I for one like to read the responses, so please don't speak for me, I am not included in "us" Linda Malloy Snorfok@aol.com wrote: > Let's use the List properly!! > Please don't respond to the whole list when you are replying to a person from > the list. The rest of us who have read the initial posting and have deleted > it because it doesn't apply to us don't want to have 6 more messages on our e- > mail list. I say "us" because I don't think I am the only one who thinks this > way. > > Take the time to address your reply to the person who sent it -- NOT THE WHOLE > LIST. > > thank you.

Many thanks for the Tyrone Co info. /Gary Gilmore

Since I am a lurker - please let me add my two cents to the list. I enjoy everyone posting their GILMORES - just maybe one of these days I'll connect my John GILMORE, born 1805 and living in Early County, GA in the 1850 Census. PLEASE let's not be so petty, we are all searching for our "lost" GILMORES. Who knows who holds the Key that we are all looking for to unlock the door that has been closed for thirty years (like mine). THANK YOU to everyone who finds time to post - I personally read every word of every GILMORE posting. Louis of Mississippi

Personally I like reading all the items on "the list".... Somebody just might have info "on my line" that I don't have, and they want to "share"

Since I posted the message that led to Judy's response that led to the "stop cluttering" message, I suppose I should own up here to my responsibility in this matter. I apologize if my original message and enquiry to Judy were out of line, although I don't think they were. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the purpose of the list seems to be to share information about Gilmore genealogy. I was sharing a particular interest in Gilmore family history that I have, and Judy kindly responded. Frankly I don't see the problem, but perhaps that can be chalked up to my own relative inexperience in such matters. And Judy, thanks again. Peter Gilmore Shirley Hendrix wrote: > > Dear List: > > I apologise I thought that I was responding to the sender only. I > personally like > > to cut people a lot of slack most mistakes are not intintional and > hitting deleat > > is pretty easy. It was Gillmore information. > > Thank,s > > Judy :) > > No need to apologize, Judy. Most of us joined the list just to see if we > can find connections to our Gilmores. If everyone posted all their info > privately, then how could we find a connection? Even posting quarries, we > don't always find people that may have info because they don't know it. By > posting to the list, we may notice a name we are familiar with that > connects, but was not in our quarry because it was a lateral name. But, we > should cut irrelevant material from previous posts. Hope this makes sense. > In my humble opinion, I think we should always post to the list when it is > Gilmore data, as long as it is data. There is usually more than one person > that belongs to each of these Gilmore lines!! Shirley

> Dear List: > I apologise I thought that I was responding to the sender only. I personally like > to cut people a lot of slack most mistakes are not intintional and hitting deleat > is pretty easy. It was Gillmore information. > Thank,s > Judy :) No need to apologize, Judy. Most of us joined the list just to see if we can find connections to our Gilmores. If everyone posted all their info privately, then how could we find a connection? Even posting quarries, we don't always find people that may have info because they don't know it. By posting to the list, we may notice a name we are familiar with that connects, but was not in our quarry because it was a lateral name. But, we should cut irrelevant material from previous posts. Hope this makes sense. In my humble opinion, I think we should always post to the list when it is Gilmore data, as long as it is data. There is usually more than one person that belongs to each of these Gilmore lines!! Shirley

At 10:14 AM 1/25/99 -0800, you wrote: >Dear List: >I apologise I thought that I was responding to the sender only. I personally >like >to cut people a lot of slack most mistakes are not intintional and hitting >deleat >is pretty easy. It was Gillmore information. >Thank,s >Judy :) > >Snorfok@aol.com wrote: > >> Let's use the List properly!! >> Please don't respond to the whole list when you are replying to a person from >> the list. The rest of us who have read the initial posting and have deleted >> it because it doesn't apply to us don't want to have 6 more messages on >our e- >> mail list. I say "us" because I don't think I am the only one who thinks >this >> way. >> >> Take the time to address your reply to the person who sent it -- NOT THE >WHOLE >> LIST. >> >> thank you. Response to Anonymous of above, This is one person's opinion - obviously yours! If you don't like what's posted, look for the "Delete from list URL and rt click on it! You are the one who subscribed - you may also UNSUBSCRIBE! Your choice. philgilmore@teleplex.net >

Dear List: I apologise I thought that I was responding to the sender only. I personally like to cut people a lot of slack most mistakes are not intintional and hitting deleat is pretty easy. It was Gillmore information. Thank,s Judy :) Snorfok@aol.com wrote: > Let's use the List properly!! > Please don't respond to the whole list when you are replying to a person from > the list. The rest of us who have read the initial posting and have deleted > it because it doesn't apply to us don't want to have 6 more messages on our e- > mail list. I say "us" because I don't think I am the only one who thinks this > way. > > Take the time to address your reply to the person who sent it -- NOT THE WHOLE > LIST. > > thank you.

I also have some notes I can send you. The only information that has been proven by me is from Hiram and Cordelia down to me. The rest of the information I have was sent to me by relatives. I am trusting that they have proof. I am leaving town this morning and will be back in a couple of days If you would like notes let me know. Judy :) Judy Kendall wrote: > Hello: > This is the first page of my line > Judy > > uenews wrote: > > > Judy, > > > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Peter Gilmore > > > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > > Mass. > > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > > Holms > > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > > Hall. > > > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > > people did. > > > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > > up! > > > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > > Sacramento. > > > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > > The Bee is on the wing > > > The Ant his labor has begin > > > The Woods with Music ring > > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here are the 5th and 6th pages; Child of GEORGE GILMORE and SYNTHIA is: i. AARON6 GILMORE. 20. SAMUEL5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born May 11, 1791 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died August 31, 1863 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He married MARTHA MILLARD. Children of SAMUEL GILMORE and MARTHA MILLARD are: i. ANNA M.6 GILMORE. ii. SOPHIS GILMORE. iii. SARAH GILMORE. iv. ELIZABETH GILMORE. v. WILLIAM GILMORE, m. HELEN MARTHA. 21. ELECTA5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born March 05, 1794 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died September 17, 1878 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. She married HENRY HAM October 19, 1814 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. Children of ELECTA GILMORE and HENRY HAM are: i. ANNA MARIE6 HAM. ii. JAMES GILMORE HAM. iii. JAMES ELLIOTT, HAM. iv. MARY ELLIOTT HAM. v. WILLIAM HENRY HAM. vi. PETER HAM. vii. MARTHA HAM. viii. SOPHIA HAM. ix. EDWARD ELLIOTT HAM. 22. JAMES5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born January 24, 1796 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died April 26, 1883 in Livingston County, New York. He married MARY GREEN March 11, 1823 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. Children of JAMES GILMORE and MARY GREEN are: i. THOMAS6 GILMORE. ii. SARAH ABBOTT GILMORE. 34. iii. JOHN GILMORE, b. November 27, 1833, Livingston County New York. 23. ALANSON5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born October 05, 1798 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died May 05, 1880 in York, Livingston Co, Ny. He married (1) JANNET SKELLIE February 03, 1824. He married (2) MARY INNIS September 24, 1840. Children of ALANSON GILMORE and JANNET SKELLIE are: i. JAMES6 GILMORE. ii. WALTER ELLIOT GILMORE. iii. ALEXANDER GILMORE. iv. GEORGE EDWARD GILMORE. v. ANNA ELIZA GILMORE. vi. MARTHA GILMORE. vii. ROSILLA GILMORE. 24. JOHN5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born November 22, 1800 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died 1882 in Livingston County, New York. He married MARGARET SKELLEY 1833. Child of JOHN GILMORE and MARGARET SKELLEY is: i. MARTHA6 GILMORE. 25. MARTIN5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born April 11, 1803 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died July 23, 1886 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He married ELEANOR GREEN January 21, 1830 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, daughter of THOMAS GREEN and SARAH COULTER. Children of MARTIN GILMORE and ELEANOR GREEN are: 35. i. SARAH MARY6 GILMORE, b. 1831; d. July 15, 1890. 36. ii. THOMAS MARTIN GILMORE, b. January 31, 1833, Cambridge, New York; d. December 07, 1900, Overbrook Kansas. iii. JAMES GILMORE, b. October 16, 1835; d. February 21, 1836. 37. iv. WILLIAM JOHN GILMORE, b. January 10, 1838; d. March 01, 1916. 38. v. JAMES LANSING GILMORE, b. September 25, 1840, Cambridge Washington Co. New York; d. September 30, 1906. 39. vi. GEORGE HENRY GILMORE, b. April 09, 1842; d. December 24, 1917. 26. ELIZABETH "ELIZA"5 GILMORE (JAMES4, GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born April 11, 1805 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York, and died January 31, 1891 in Coila, Washington Co. New York. She married NATHAN CULVER JR. 1825. Children of ELIZABETH GILMORE and NATHAN JR. are: i. MARTHA ANN6 CULVER. ii. MABEL MARIAH CULVER. iii. GEORGE WILLIAMS CULVER. iv. JAMES HENRY CULVER. v. THOMAS EDWARD CULVER. vi. MARY ELIZA CULVER. vii. FRANCE SOPHIA CULVER. viii. JOHN NEWTON CULVER. ix. CHARLES GILMORE CULVER. x. SARAH STEVENSON CULVER. xi. JULIA PARMELEE CULVER. xii. ELECTA HAM CULVER. Generation No. 6 27. ELMA GILLMORE6 GILMORE (HIRAM GILLMORE5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM JR.3, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1). She married ARCH HAMILTON. Children of ELMA GILMORE and ARCH HAMILTON are: i. IRMA7 HAMILTON, m. ZERN. ii. LESLIE A. HAMILTON. iii. EVERETT O. HAMILTON. iv. HAZEL HAMILTON. v. ELMER J. HAMILTON. 28. EMMET POTTER GILLMORE6 GILMORE (HIRAM GILLMORE5, SAMUEL4, WILLIAM JR.3, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born June 14, 1854 in Muncie, Indiana, and died October 29, 1920 in Brawley, California. He married CLARA ATWOOD CAIN October 27, 1878 in Manchester, California, daughter of DAVID CAIN and BETSEY MAXIM. Children of EMMET GILMORE and CLARA CAIN are: i. LILLIE VIOLA GILLMORE7 GILMORE, b. October 27, 1879; d. March 03, 1914, Windsor, Sonoma Co. California; m. ERNEST HIGGINS. 40. ii. BESSIE CORDELIA GILLMORE GILMORE, b. April 06, 1882. iii. EMMET RAY GILLMORE GILMORE, b. October 07, 1889. uenews wrote: > Judy, > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > Thanks! > > Peter Gilmore > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > Mass. > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > Holms > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > Hall. > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > people did. > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > up! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > Sacramento. > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > The Bee is on the wing > > The Ant his labor has begin > > The Woods with Music ring > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here is the 4th and 5th pages: Descendants of James Gillmore Gilmore Generation No. 1 1. JAMES GILLMORE1 GILMORE was born 1685 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. He married ISABELLA UNKNOWN. Children of JAMES GILMORE and ISABELLA UNKNOWN are: 2. i. WILLIAM2 GILMORE, b. 1707, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. December 02, 1786, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 3. ii. JAMES GILMORE, b. 1715, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 GILMORE (JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1707 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland, and died December 02, 1786 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He married ALICE MOORE June 10, 1736 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. Children of WILLIAM GILMORE and ALICE MOORE are: i. MARGARET3 GILMORE, b. August 06, 1737, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. January 25, 1792; m. SAMUEL COWDEN, December 01, 1755, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 4. ii. ISABELLA GILMORE, b. October 08, 1739, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. August 28, 1823. iii. MARY GILMORE, b. June 10, 1743, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; m. ROBERT COCHRAN, June 18, 1767, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 5. iv. JAMES GILMORE, b. May 14, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. October 11, 1815. v. ROBERT GILMORE, b. May 14, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. August 16, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. vi. DAVID GILMORE, b. February 25, 1747/48, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. February 25, 1747/48, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 6. vii. WILLIAM JR. GILMORE, b. May 14, 1750, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. June 16, 1847, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. viii. ALICE GILMORE, b. February 20, 1760, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. September 15, 1834, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 7. ix. DAVID GILMORE, b. November 16, 1754, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. September 15, 1834, Madison, New York. x. ROBERT GILMORE, b. April 18, 1756, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. April 18, 1756, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. xi. SARAH GILMORE, b. May 08, 1758. 3. JAMES2 GILMORE (JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1715 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. He married JANE UNKNOWN. Children of JAMES GILMORE and JANE UNKNOWN are: 8. i. GEORGE3 GILMORE, b. 1743, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. June 1786, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 9. ii. ROBERT GILMORE, b. 1735, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. 1796, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. Generation No. 3 4. ISABELLA3 GILMORE (WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born October 08, 1739 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts, and died August 28, 1823. She married WILLIAM HENRY January 15, 1760 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. uenews wrote: > Judy, > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > Thanks! > > Peter Gilmore > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > Mass. > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > Holms > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > Hall. > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > people did. > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > up! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > Sacramento. > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > The Bee is on the wing > > The Ant his labor has begin > > The Woods with Music ring > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sorry about 1st page here it is: Descendants of James Gillmore Gilmore Generation No. 1 1. JAMES GILLMORE1 GILMORE was born 1685 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. He married ISABELLA UNKNOWN. Children of JAMES GILMORE and ISABELLA UNKNOWN are: 2. i. WILLIAM2 GILMORE, b. 1707, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. December 02, 1786, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 3. ii. JAMES GILMORE, b. 1715, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. Generation No. 2 2. WILLIAM2 GILMORE (JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1707 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland, and died December 02, 1786 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He married ALICE MOORE June 10, 1736 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. Children of WILLIAM GILMORE and ALICE MOORE are: i. MARGARET3 GILMORE, b. August 06, 1737, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. January 25, 1792; m. SAMUEL COWDEN, December 01, 1755, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 4. ii. ISABELLA GILMORE, b. October 08, 1739, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. August 28, 1823. iii. MARY GILMORE, b. June 10, 1743, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; m. ROBERT COCHRAN, June 18, 1767, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 5. iv. JAMES GILMORE, b. May 14, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. October 11, 1815. v. ROBERT GILMORE, b. May 14, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. August 16, 1745, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. vi. DAVID GILMORE, b. February 25, 1747/48, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. February 25, 1747/48, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 6. vii. WILLIAM JR. GILMORE, b. May 14, 1750, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. June 16, 1847, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. viii. ALICE GILMORE, b. February 20, 1760, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. September 15, 1834, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. 7. ix. DAVID GILMORE, b. November 16, 1754, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. September 15, 1834, Madison, New York. x. ROBERT GILMORE, b. April 18, 1756, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. April 18, 1756, Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. xi. SARAH GILMORE, b. May 08, 1758. 3. JAMES2 GILMORE (JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1715 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland. He married JANE UNKNOWN. Children of JAMES GILMORE and JANE UNKNOWN are: 8. i. GEORGE3 GILMORE, b. 1743, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. June 1786, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 9. ii. ROBERT GILMORE, b. 1735, Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland; d. 1796, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. Generation No. 3 4. ISABELLA3 GILMORE (WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born October 08, 1739 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts, and died August 28, 1823. She married WILLIAM HENRY January 15, 1760 in Pelham, Hampshire County, Massachusetts. uenews wrote: > Judy, > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > Thanks! > > Peter Gilmore > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > Mass. > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > Holms > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > Hall. > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > people did. > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > up! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > Sacramento. > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > The Bee is on the wing > > The Ant his labor has begin > > The Woods with Music ring > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This is the second and third pages of my line Judy October 17, 1793, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. iii. SARAH GILMORE, b. Abt. 1769, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; m. UNKNOWN WATSON. 15. iv. HUGH KELSO GILMORE, b. 1780-1786, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. 1831. v. JOHN GILMORE, b. Cambridge, Washington County, New York. vi. UNKNOWN CHILD TWO GILMORE, b. Abt. 1780. 16. vii. ELIZABETH BETSEY GILMORE, b. 1784, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. July 23, 1852, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. viii. UNKNOWN CHILD GILMORE, b. Abt. 1778. Child of GEORGE GILMORE and ELIZABETH BLAIR is: ix. ELIZBETH4 GILMORE, b. 1784. 9. ROBERT3 GILMORE (JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1735 in Colerain, County Londonerry, Ireland, and died 1796 in Cambridge, Washington County, New York. He married DOROTHY GRAY 1765. Children of ROBERT GILMORE and DOROTHY GRAY are: 17. i. ESTHER4 GILMORE, b. 1760; d. Abt. 1811, Auburn, New York ?. ii. MARTHA GILMORE. Generation No. 4 10. MARTHA4 HENRY (ISABELLA3 GILMORE, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born July 21, 1780. She married AARON MCKEE. Children of MARTHA HENRY and AARON MCKEE are: i. ELEANOR5 MCKEE. ii. WILLIAM HENRY MCKEE. iii. ROBERT GILMORE MCKEE. iv. ANNA MARIE MCKEE. v. JAMES HENRY MCKEE. vi. CHARLES RUSSELL MCKEE. 11. SAMUEL4 GILMORE (WILLIAM JR.3, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born August 17, 1783 in White Creek, Washington Co, New York, and died April 27, 1870. He married HANNAH (MARTHA)POTTER Abt. 1803. Children of SAMUEL GILMORE and HANNAH (MARTHA)POTTER are: i. CHARLES GILLMORE5 GILMORE, b. September 1804, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. ii. GILBERT GILLMORE GILMORE, b. July 1806, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York; m. ELIABETH CHASE, 1849, Syracuse, New York. iii. WILLIAM GILLMORE GILMORE, b. April 1808. iv. BENJAMIN PARKER GILLMORE GILMORE, b. February 23, 1810, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. v. ROBERT FRANKLIN GILLMORE GILMORE, b. May 1812, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. vi. JOHN GILLMORE GILMORE, b. July 1814, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. vii. MARY ANN GILLMORE GILMORE, b. November 1818, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. viii. HANNAH MARIA GILLMORE GILMORE, b. March 1821, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. ix. EMELENE GILLMORE GILMORE, b. July 14, 1824, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. 18. x. HIRAM GILLMORE GILMORE, b. October 22, 1825, Rome, Oneida County, New York; d. July 28, 1907, Point Arena, California. xi. SAMUAL GILLMORE JR. GILMORE, b. December 08, 1826, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. xii. PRIEST GILLMORE GILMORE, b. November 1830, Westmoreland, Oneida County, New York. 12. JOHN4 GILMORE (WILLIAM JR.3, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born March 04, 1795 in White Creek, Washington Co, New York, and died August 12, 1881 in Chili, Monroe County, New York. He married (1) SARAH SPRAGUE October 15, 1818 in Washington Co, New York. He married (2) JEMIMA WESSON February 03, 1858 in Hoosick Falls, Washington Co. New York. Child of JOHN GILMORE and SARAH SPRAGUE is: i. CORNELIA ANN RICH5 GILMORE, b. October 25, 1823; m. CALVUS ROYCE, June 15, 1846. 13. ARUNAH4 GILMORE (DAVID3, WILLIAM2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born December 01, 1792, and died August 30, 1855 in Madison, New York. He married (1) ELIZABETH BUSHNESS October 1825 in New York. He married (2) ELIZABETH CHAPMAN January 06, 1841 in New York. He married (3) JUDITH WHITECOMB September 14, 1847 in New York. Children of ARUNAH GILMORE and ELIZABETH BUSHNESS are: i. ELIZABETH5 GILMORE, b. December 22, 1826, Madison, New York. ii. HIRAM GILMORE, b. May 29, 1828, Madison, New York. iii. ALTO AMELIA GILMORE, b. September 23, 1833. Children of ARUNAH GILMORE and ELIZABETH CHAPMAN are: iv. ALELOID5 GILMORE, b. October 02, 1843, Madison, New York. v. AMEDIA GILMORE, b. January 30, 1845. Children of ARUNAH GILMORE and JUDITH WHITECOMB are: vi. SARAH ELIZA5 GILMORE, b. June 21, 1848, Madison, New York. vii. WILLIAM DWIGHT GILMORE, b. February 08, 1851, Madison, New York. viii. GEORGE HENRY GILMORE, b. August 12, 1852, Madison, New York. ix. MARY LUCY GILMORE, b. December 21, 1854, Madison, New York. 14. JAMES4 GILMORE (GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born June 03, 1767, and died January 25, 1831 in Cambridge, New York. He married (1) LYDIA. He married (2) MARTHA SMITH May 25, 1789. Children of JAMES GILMORE and LYDIA are: i. JANE5 GILMORE, b. Aft. 1820, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. ii. MARY GILMORE, b. Aft. 1820, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. iii. EUNICE ABIGAIL GILMORE, b. Aft. 1820, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. iv. DAVID GILMORE, b. 1827, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. January 09, 1831, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. v. DANIEL GILMORE ?, b. 1827, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. January 09, 1831, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. Children of JAMES GILMORE and MARTHA SMITH are: 19. vi. GEORGE5 GILMORE, b. May 25, 1789, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. March 07, 1829, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 20. vii. SAMUEL GILMORE, b. May 11, 1791, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. August 31, 1863, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 21. viii. ELECTA GILMORE, b. March 05, 1794, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. September 17, 1878, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 22. ix. JAMES GILMORE, b. January 24, 1796, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. April 26, 1883, Livingston County, New York. 23. x. ALANSON GILMORE, b. October 05, 1798, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. May 05, 1880, York, Livingston Co, Ny. 24. xi. JOHN GILMORE, b. November 22, 1800, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. 1882, Livingston County, New York. 25. xii. MARTIN GILMORE, b. April 11, 1803, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. July 23, 1886, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. 26. xiii. ELIZABETH "ELIZA" GILMORE, b. April 11, 1805, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; d. January 31, 1891, Coila, Washington Co. New York. xiv. WILLIAM GILMORE, b. June 06, 1808, Cambridge, Washington County, New York. xv. SOPHIA GILMORE, b. May 22, 1810, Cambridge, Washington County, New York; m. DUNCAN CAMERON JR.. 15. HUGH KELSO4 GILMORE (GEORGE3, JAMES2, JAMES GILLMORE1) was born 1780-1786 in uenews wrote: > Judy, > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > Thanks! > > Peter Gilmore > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > Mass. > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > Holms > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > Hall. > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > people did. > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > up! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > Sacramento. > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > The Bee is on the wing > > The Ant his labor has begin > > The Woods with Music ring > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hello: This is the first page of my line Judy uenews wrote: > Judy, > > Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. > > I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably > moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was > born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named > after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this > time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. > > Thanks! > > Peter Gilmore > > Judy Kendall wrote: > > > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > > Mass. > > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > > Holms > > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > > Hall. > > > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > > Gillmore Bishop. > > > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > > people did. > > > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > > up! > > > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > > carrots, spuds, and corn! > > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > > Sacramento. > > > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > > The Bee is on the wing > > The Ant his labor has begin > > The Woods with Music ring > > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No, Gary, Coleraine is County Derry (or Londonderry) near the mouth of the Bann River on the northern coast. County Tyrone is to the south of Derry; their border shares the wild and scenic Sperrin Mountains. I would hazard a guess that your ancestor Samuel came from western County Tyrone in the neighborhood of Strabane. This region known as the Lagan takes in eastern Donegal and western Tyrone and was the home of many Ulster Scots who emigrated to North America in the 18th century. Peter Gilmore

Judy, Thanks for sharing that fascinating story and poem. I was also struck by the first line of information: James Gilmore, born in 1685 in Coleraine. This is roughly the time my family probably moved from Scotland to Ireland; there is a possibility that they moved to the environs of Coleraine and the Bann Valley. A generation was born there; I am descended from James (son of John and Agnes) who was born 1697 (or thereabouts). Given the naming customs -- sons named after grandfather and uncles -- I try to be alert to Gilmores named James (or for that matter John) born in the north of Ireland around this time. I would be very interested to learn anything you might have on the origins of your line. Thanks! Peter Gilmore Judy Kendall wrote: > I have a story written by the grandaughter of Cordilia and Hiram Gilmore > that someone may be interested in. My line is: > James Gilmore b 1685 Colerain, Ireland m Isabella > William Gilmore b 1707 Colerain, Ireland m Alice Moore 1736 in Pelham , > Mass. > William Jr. Gilmore b 1750 Pelham, Mass d 1847 Cambridge, NY m Anna > Holms > Samuel Gilmore b1783 White Creek NY m Hannah Potter > Hiram Gilmore b 1824 Rome NY m Cordelia Timmerman > Ellmore Jay DeLoss Gilmore b 1865 Tomalles, Ca. m Margaret Maggie Jakway > Hall. > > FINDING A NEW HOME > > A true story as told to me by my mother, Effie Allice > Gillmore Bishop. > > My mother (Effie Alice Gillmore) was born in Iowa in 1857. She came to > California with her mother Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore, her oldest > brother Emmett and a tiny baby brother named Penn. She was about six > years old. Her father Hiram Gillmore had come to California sometime > before, and was working as a carpenter. > > Grandma Gillmore (Cordelia Timmerman Gillmore) and her children come > down the Mississippi River on a boat and crossed the Gulf of Mexico to > the Isthmus of Panama where the ship anchored in a small harbor. There > they met a small train that carried passengers across country to the > Pacific side. She did not remember the train ride but told me about > seeing naked native children swimming all around the boat as it > anchored. They would hold up their hands and beg for pennies. The > bottoms of their feet and palms of their hands looked very pink, their > finger nails looked white. They would dive to the bottom to get > pennies. My Grandma did not have pennies to throw in for them but some > people did. > > At the town where the train stopped on the Pacific side, they > boarded a boat for the trip to San Francisco. > > How brave my Grandma Gillmore was to make a trip like that with three > small children, very little money , and their few clothes in bags! > > Grandpa Gillmore's nephew, Henry Gillmore, used to run a hotel in > San Francisco called "What Cheer Hotel". That was in 1863. Grandma and > the children spent two days there waiting for Grandpa to get there and > take them to Bloomfield by horse and buggy over a trail. I have no idea > how they got from the ship to the hotel, but he did get there and they > headed "home". My mama remembered lots of sand hills in San Francisco. > In later years she told me that the What Cheer Hotel was finally torn > down and used to help fill in the water front when they were building it > up! > > Grandpa Gillmore was a traveler and restless so they moved on and > lived at Tomales and later to Bodega. Ge found work but was headed > north! They finally came up the coast and found a place he really liked > called Manchester. He built a house there and it was there Effie > Alice, my mother, attended school. The family grew to be six > children, Emmett, Everett, Penn, Effie, Elma, and Eva. > > My mother attended Napa College for one year when she was about > eighteen. Grandma Gillmore's brother, George Timmerman, gave her the > money for schooling. Three other girls from Manchester attended also. > > When she came home, she met my father, Elijah Bishop. They were > married February 22,1882. Her brother Penn and his sweetheart were > married at a double wedding ceremony with them. His wife was named > Jennie Andral. They had all been good friends and thought that would be > nice. Jennie had beautiful curley hair and was very pretty. I have > pictures of them in a large frame. The ink has faded out and my > daughter Betty will try to get it restored. My mother was pretty and > had a lovely wedding gown. It was gray alpaca cloth. Had a high > collar, and full gathered top sleeves. The front was a panel of satin > "Shirred" and the top part was called a Basque, the skirt was full. My > mother was a small girl and weight about 110. She let me dress up in > her wedding dress once when I was about 10 or 12. I had to be very > careful and sat like a lady and looked at a book. Her hair was a > beautiful golden brown and she curled it on a big hair pins so her bangs > would fluff up! The back was combed down and made into a "pug". > > My father Elijah "Lige" as he was called, and my mother lived on the > old home ranch all their lives and raised six children, (near the Garcia > River.) My Dad was proud of his "bottom Land" where he raised huge > carrots, spuds, and corn! > Austin, my brother, and I are the only ones left of the old family. We > have children and grandchildren and I am blessed with six great > grandkids. There are many nieces and nephews and their families and I am > sure they would not know me now. (all scattered.) My mother passed away > January 4 1943, just six days before her 86th birthday. My father > passed away on August 29, 1930. > > They were of hardy stock, hard working and wonderful people, loved by > all who knew them. Just like my Grandfather and Grandmother Gillmore! > > I loved having them visit us and telling me the stories of their > daily living. Grandma knew miles of poems and I got to sleep with her > in the "spare bedroom" when she came. She would, at 6:OO A>M>, open up > the window and breathe in the cool air and recite something special as > she dressed. Her clothes I must tell you about: long under drawers, > long sleeved under shirt, a cute night cap. Her nightgown was full and > dragged the floor. She had pretty feet no bumps or sore nails and I > always had her show me her cute toes. so tiny and perfect. She wore > long stockings and a garter belt. All the time she dressed she sang or > recited poetry. I'd be tucked under the covers. we could smell the > coffee and bacon or sausage cooking downstairs and I's hear my Dad come > to the bottom of the stairs to awaken my brothers Ase and Austin. He'd > roar, Time to get up, goin to sleep all day? and bang would go the hall > door. but, that ment getting out and they did right then. > > Oh the wonderful memories. Grandpa Gillmore teased me so I'd whimper > and he would chuckle and laugh and pull my curles. I almost forgot to > tell you that I'm the last one named Effie after my mother, (Effie > Darlene Bishop Johnson,) and am married to a wonderful old buy, Carl, > who will be 83 August 22, and today , July 7th, I am 80 years old, still > up and going, tagging after Carl. We plan a trip to Idaho if all goes > well. later this summer. We have three children, my youngest son was > born on my birthday so today we will have cake and a feed later. > Barbeque with all joining in, except Betty who can't make it here from > Sacramento. > > We have been married 58 years good, happy years. We have been > blessed and thank God for our wonderful long time together. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > I found this in my mom's bible (Ferne Remstedt Hurley) after she passed > away. Her grandma would have been Maggie Jakway Gillmore and great > grandmom would have been Cordilia Timmerman Gillmore. > > GRANDMA'S POEM > > The Lark is up to meet the Sun > The Bee is on the wing > The Ant his labor has begin > The Woods with Music ring > Should birds and Bees be wise while I my moments waste'n? > Oh let me with the morning rise and to my duties hasten > > Submitted by Judy Kendall > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~