John G. and Juliette Gillaspie were in Bourbon or Nicholas County Kentucky by 1830, perhaps earlier, and had children Simon, Mary, John, James, Fanny, Sarah, and perhaps more. Would like to know where they came from before Kentucky. Thanks. Mary Miller

--part1_3d7ef0d0.24c38ac1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mary, My Mary Gillespie was the spouse of Randolph/Randol LaForce. She was born abt 1757 d about 1830. They were in Fayette Co. KY. Named a son Gillespie. I believe she died in Bourbon Co. If you should find a connection, I would appreciate information. Pat Lefors Dawson --part1_3d7ef0d0.24c38ac1_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from aol.com (rly-zb05.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.5]) by air-zb01.mail.aol.com (v60.14) with ESMTP; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:02:06 -0400 Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by rly-zb05.mx.aol.com (v60.14) with ESMTP; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:01:51 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00283; Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 12:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 14:07:35 -0500 From: "Daniel W. Miller" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Organization: FlashNet User X-Sender: "Daniel W. Miller" <[email protected]> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-FLASHNET (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: [email protected] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GILLESPIE-L] KENTUCKY Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/265 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] John G. and Juliette Gillaspie were in Bourbon or Nicholas County Kentucky by 1830, perhaps earlier, and had children Simon, Mary, John, James, Fanny, Sarah, and perhaps more. Would like to know where they came from before Kentucky. Thanks. Mary Miller ==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to [email protected] with the one word, unsubscribe, in the BODY of the message. If you are subscribed to the digest, send your unsubscribe message to [email protected] To post a message for everyone to see, send it to [email protected] --part1_3d7ef0d0.24c38ac1_boundary--

To Rick >From Helen Austin Again, you asked about the Robert Addison GILLESPIE, a son of Robert GILLESPIE of Somerville, Morgan Co, AL who was earlier from Blount Co. Tn and was a son of William GILLESPIE of Louisville, TN, a son of James and Jennet, immigrants from Scotland and Ulster to America about 1840. You must have seen the probate records which I sent to the Gillespie List this week. the son of Robert is named in those papers as Robert A. So, perhaps he is not the same individual as the Richard Addison Gillespie who you say went to TX. I do not know the source for saying that the Robert A. from Morgan Co, AL went to TX except it was from the earlier transcription of a book called HISTORIC SOMERVILLE, by Whitehorn, which I sent to the list. It went like this. Robert Gillespie m Betsie Houston, dau of Maj. James Houston, of Blount Co,TN children: 1) Esther m M.C. Houston 2) Capt. William Finley Gillespie 3) Rev. James Houston Gillespie (c 1804-after 1881) m 28 Oct 1830 in Philadelphia to Abbie C. Ellis, had 5 ch then moved to Florence 4 years, 1843 to Denmark, TN, then Brownsville, TN. 4) Martha Louise, 2nd wife of M. C. Houston Robert then married Patsie Houston (second cousin of Betsie) dau of John Houston of Pistol Branch, TN, and had 6 ch. 1) Betsie Ann 2) John L. 3) John Newton **** 4) Capt Robert Addison Gillespie (12 Jun 1815 Blount Co, TN-d 22 Sep 1846) He moved to AL 1831 in Somerville, then to New Orleans, then 1834 to TX, in Mexican war, bur San Antonio TX Mar 1847 [[ Helen: THIS IS THE PART IN QUESTION. Whitehorn could have taken this from the JOHN KNOX, HISTORY OF MORGAN CO, AL. I will check and see. Someone 40 years ago might have made an assumption that this R. ADDISON GILLESPIE was t he one who went to TX. ]] 5) Matthew Milton Gillespie d ca 1842 Fayette Co, TX 6) Mary Elizabeth Wife 3 of Robert was Mary King, a dau of Rev. Richard King. They had a dau. Mary who died young. [[note from Helen: Robert also had other young chidren named in estate paper who were born after 1797, named Joseph (b abt 1805), Sally, Nancy, Andrew. ]] I do not know where these early authors got their data. I do not know what else to say about R. Addison Gillespie, except that this one was born before after 1797, was a minor when his father died and his guardian was, John Houston of Blount Co, TN. John Houston was also the guardian of Matthew Milton Gillespie brother of Robert A. I will keep on checking to see what is known about the Robert Addison Gillespie, son of Robert who must have been living in Blount Co. after 1821 with John Houston. At least until 1831, if the book, Historic Somerville is correct. Do you have any source cited for a residence in New Orleans, between 1831 and 1834 for R. Addison Gillespie?

I posted some Blount County wills from Gillespies/Montgomerys (also mention Houstons in places) at the TN GenWeb site (and I actually have a couple more Gillespies to post yet when I get a few moments)...Address is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/tn/blount.htm These might be helpful to someone. Suzanne Haley

I just wanted to let everyone know that there are some new boards for the Gillespie surname that you can post wills, queries, pensions, and other data to. Go to http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/g/i/GILLESPIE/ and scroll down. I administer the boards, but they are provided courtesy of Rootsweb, for free. You can also post your data here, too, of course. David [email protected] David W. Morgan Honolulu Hawaii http://www.rootsweb.com/~okbeckha/coordinate.html http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dmorgan/index.html

>From Helen Austin of Decatur, AL [email protected] In my last message to the Gillespie researchers searching for the parents of James GILLESPIE b ca 1790-1793- d 1849 Lawrence Co,AL, m 1818 Morgan/Cotaco Co,AL to Lucy JOHNSON, I showed two soldiers info for James and John. Today I have new information and hope you also have more to add to information about the members of the GILLESPIE/ HOUSTON/MONTGOMERY/COWAN families who enlisted in the E. TN Militia on the same day, Sep 23, 1813. I wish I knew more about what happened in Maryville, TN that day. I said, James GILLESPIE, War of 1812 Veteran Was in Major J. P. H. Porter's Cavalry Squadron of East TN Militia. He enlisted in Blount Co, TN, Maryville Sep 23 1813- discharged Dec 23, 1813 at Maryville.; His service was as a Pvt. in Capt. Cowan't Co, of TN Militia. He had dark hair, and eyes, and weighed about 125 lb. According to his wife's application for bounty land he was only married once. He died Oct 7, 1849. I asked about a John who enlisted in the same unit that day. Did you find anything? This is what I found in White's Pensions Applications War of 1812. Two possible Johns are listed. 1. John GILESPIE, rank CORNET (whatever that is?) enlisted 23 Sep 1813 In Major James Porters Squadron , Cavalry, Co. Capt Samuel Cowan. (from microfilm index of soldiers in TN War of 1812). 2. John Gillespie, same unit, same dates (could be the same one as this was in the pensions book) wife Jane (Kilbourn) 3rd wife. Pension # WC-34693, married 16 Oct 1823, Blount Co, TN. soldier died 14 Mar 1842, widow died 8 Sep 1882 Limestone Co, TX; served in Corwinis Tn or Cowan's TN Militia; widow lived Monroe Co, TN and Limestone Co, TX; First wife was a Houston, 2nd wife was Nancy Gallagher. COULD THIS BE THE FATHER OF JAMES in the first paragraph? Unless he married about 1790, perhaps not. WHEN DID HE MARRY PATSIE HOUSTON? This John must be the son of William and Isabella Houston GILLESPIE and a brother to the Capt James in #(3) below. HAVE ANY OF YOU SENT OFF FOR THIS PENSION OR DO YOU HAVE SERVICE RECORDS FOR THESE MEN? 3. Capt. James Gillespie, ( who died in Blount Co, TN) Enlisted Sept 23, 1813, Regt of Col Sam Wear, Co. Capt. James Gillespie of E. Tn Vol, Infantry. He is on the microfilm and also the pension book. White's book has, He md. Peggy Houston first, 2. Jane Gallagher, 3. Patsy W. Wallace 8-12-1823; a Capt in Col Wear's 1st Regt. E. TN; enlisted 23 Sep 1813, disc 12-31, 1813; bur at Gillespie Fam. Cem near Louisville, Blount Co, TN. This is not new to most of you, but I am just repeating the source of the data. What is interesting to me is that he enlisted the same day and the James and John above. 4. Isaac GILLESPIE, Pvt. Enlisted 23 Sep 1813 i Col Sam Wear's Co, Capt John Child's E. TN Vol Inf. From microfilm of index of service records,soldiers in TN. 5. Jacob GILLESPIE , Pvt. Enlisted the next day, 24 Sep 1813 in Col John Alcorn's Co., Capt John Baskerville, Vol Inf. he was also a pvt 10 Dec 1812 in Col John Coffee, Capt John Baskerville, TN Cavalry. From same microfilm. If some of you can tell me which families that these soldiers belong in , I would appreciate it. I know that Capt James mentioned in (3) above was b 17 Jun 1777 probably in Augusta , VA and d 17 Nov 1848 and was the son of William GILLESPIE b ca 1737 Ulster, Ireland and Isabella HOUSTON b ca 1722 who was the dau of John HOUSTON, immigrant from Ulster. I know that it is said that this Capt James had a son named James Harvey Gillespie b ca 1819 probably in Blount, TN, a son of Jane Gallagher, so he is probably not the father of our James Gillespie b ca 1790 who fought in the same Squadron of soldiers. But the Capt could be his uncle. Another family member is surely: Robert HOUSTON (1790-1840 Blount Co, TN) Md. Margaret Cunningham 1811 (1792-1843); Pvt and Srgt, Capt Samuel Cowan's Co.Maj James P.H. Porter's Regt; 9-23-1813 to 12-23-1813; W D & T S A; New Providence Pres. Cem, Maryville, Blount Co, TN. Source for this and for the Capt James Gillespie burial site is , SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812 BURIED IN TN, Names abstracted from Col. David Henley's "Wastebook Regular and Militia Personnel for Period 1793-1798 in SW Territory (TN) ; compiled by Mary Hardin McCowan ; copy in Huntsville, AL Library. all for now Helen

Hello ! Your James and John are related to us , I just took some papers over to my 86 yr old aunt today . She has loads of actual documents that was left to her by her father Jeff Gillespie . Unfort. she is out of town till Sunday . When she gets back I'll get information for you .Plus if your willing to give her your address she'll make copies and coraspond with you . Others are doing that now . Mary [email protected]

TO GILLESPIE LIST >From Helen Austin, [email protected] Recently there was a list of soldiers of the War of 1812 named GILLESPIE. Does anyone know about these two soldiers? I am especially interested in knowing which John is the one mentioned. James GILLESPIE, War of 1812 Veteran Was in Major J. P. H. Porter's Cavalry Squadron of East TN Militia. He enlisted in Blount Co, TN, Maryville Sep 23 1813- discharged Dec 23, 1813 at Maryville.; His service was as a Pvt. in Capt. Cowan't Co, of TN Militia. He had dark hair, and eyes, and weighed about 125 lb. According to his wife's application for bounty land he was only married once. He died Oct 7, 1849. I noticed on a list of veterans that another GILLESPIE, a John was also in the same unit. Would you happen to know which John this was? I am wondering if it is the same John that was a co-executor with James on the probate records of Robert Gillespie of Morgan Co, AL? Do you know if there was a minimum age for enlistment in the service for that war? By legend, James saw the Forest and mountain areas of Lawrence and Morgan Co, AL and was so pleased with the way that the territory and hunting property looked in the TN Valley of N. AL, that he vowed to return. By testimony it is said, He also knew how to search for minerals and mined his own lead from the Bankhead Forest where he lived at Indian Tomb Hollow when he first went to Lawrence Co. He fought the Creek Indians there and knew all their hunting places and choice lands. It is known that some of his descendants married Indian women of the forest (SPARKS and OWL) Some of the descendants today still hunt in the forest, can make arrowheads and have kept the oral history alive. My husband's uncle (by marriage) Houston Gillespie, son of George, son of John, son of JAMES had a large collection of indian artifacts that he had gathered from the area. After the widow Lucy Johnson GILLESPIE who had married JAMES in Sep 1818, got the Govt Bounty Land Grant near Moulton, the family moved out of the forest to the valley farming land. They live near Morris Chapel Cemetery where many Gillespie's are enterred. Please reply about the JOHN. I am trying to find which family in Blount Co. or eastern TN, that James belongs to. Helen

>From Helen Austin, Decatur, AL Today I am studying some possibilities that the James Gillespie (ca 1793-1849) of Blount Co, TN, Morgan and Lawrence Co, AL, could, or could not, be a son of John, son of William GILLESPIE of Blount co TN who was a son of James and Jennet of Ulster and Augusta, VA. The first thing I see is that John G. b ca 1774 did not marry Patsie HOUSTON until 7 Feb 1799. According to records our James was b between 1790 and 1793 and would not likely have been old enough for the E. TN Militia in 1813 if he was born after 1799. Could have John married Nancy Gallagher before he married Patsie? Perhaps then he could have had some children earlier. However, if John son of William was b ca 1774 he would only have been age 16 in 1790, and 19 in 1793. This does not sound quite right for a match to me. Also the Blount Co, Marriages show a marriage for a John to a Jane Kilbourn on 16 Oct 1823. I do not see a date for the marriage to Nancy G. =========== About John (gen 2) son of James and Jennet who died in 1796. However, someone sent me a message that this James was killed in 1788 at Gillespy Burnt Station. If so, that rules out that James also. ============ About children of William, gen 2, son of James and Jennet. His son Capt James b 1777 had three marriages. His last one was on 12 Aug 1823 to Martha W. (Patsy) WALLACE in Blount Co, TN. This was about the time that the settlement of the estate of Robert GILLESPIE his brother was coming to a close. You show his first marriage to Maragaret "Peggy" Houston was 21 Jan 1793. They would have had time to birth a child before the year 1793 was over. They seemed to be prolific and their first child is shown on some genealogies as Esther b 9 Jul 1795. I wonder if Capt James and Peggy could have had a child named James ? If a son James Harvey was born ca 1819. That would be a son of Capt James and Jenny Gallagher? I know it is a stretch to think he would have two James, but then Jenny might have wanted to have her own James. and his brother Robert is sometimes shown as having two Johns, John L. and John Newton ? Neither one is shown on the probate records. =========== This brings me to the matter of the children of Robert. I know that often wills or probate records do not name all the children of an individual, especially if some have died, or are much older and able to take care of themselves, or have gone away, to parts unknown. It is certain from the original records I saw (brown, crumbly pieces of 1814 and 1817 papers) that Robert died in 1817 or soon before in Morgan Co, AL. It took until 1823 for settlement of the estate because Robert was a business partner with Matthew C. Houston and the property where the store was,in Somerville, AL, had to be sold. Also the stock of the store had to be all inventoried and paid for by M.C. Houston. The many receipts and notes were to satisfy the accounts receivable and payable. Several different guardians were appointed for minor children. I also wonder if the widow Mary Ann died during the process of settlement since she was no longer the Admx. of the estate after James and John Gillespie were appointed in Somerville. Notice that the marriage to Mary Ann Gipson/Gibson King had to occur before 17 Jan 1819. Betsy, wife 2, died 13 Apr 1809. So Robert and Mary must have married after 1809 but in time to have several children. (about 7-8 yrs.) Notice that there were children, perhaps from Mary Ann that are not shown on some genealogies. The youngest are mentioned in this transcription from an original paper, dated Jan 21, 1823, in the Morgan Co Archives, Decatur, AL. "Recd of Thomas D. Crabb one of the Adm of the Estate of Robert Gillespie, the full amount of all demands due from him as adm. aforesaid, due JOSEPH GILLESPIE, SALLY GILLESPIE, NANCY GILLESPIE AND ANDREW GILLESPIE, heirs of said Robert GILLESPIE, decd. signed Isaac YEARY, guardian of Joseph, Sally, Nancy, & Andrew Gillespie. Test. Thos. McElderry." Other heirs mentioned in the probate papers of Robert Gillespie, decd are: Widow, Mary G. Gillespie and children as follows, Easter H. wife of Matthew C. Houston Wm. F. Gillespie above age 21, (b bef 1797) Martha L. , guardian James Houston appt. by Blount Co, under 21 (b aft 1797) James H. , guardian James Houston appt. by Blount Co " Robert A., guardian John Houston appt by Blount Co. " Matthew Milton, guardian John Houston appt by Blount Co. Mary E. who has for her guardian Jacob F. Fenl? apptd by Blount Co. =========== Since the children are listed in different documents, one wonders if some of the children by former wives, did not come to AL with Mary and Robert, but stayed in Blount, TN with the relatives James and John Houston and the Jacob, whose last name could be Fonl, Fenlt? hard to tell? I also wonder why the children were all split up with 4 different guardians. Now we know that the aforementioned Esther, Martha L., and Nancy stayed in Morgan Co, AL and that Martha m 28 Jan 1830 to M.C. Houston, and that Nancy married James H. Sharp 3 Sep 1829. The William F. (Finley) a Capt. stayed in Morgan also and married Sarah P. Lane, 24 Dec 1833. The JOSEPH GILLESPIE who was a minor in Jan 1823, must have been born about 1805, a child of Betsey, and have reached majority before 1826, or had permission to marry young, as The Morgan Co, Marriages show: Joseph H. GILLESPIE to Sarah Lay, 26 Oct 1826 ( A-105). I need to get a photocopy of that and see if he had to have permission. --------- all for now, Helen Austin, Decatur, AL [email protected]

>From Helen Austin To Morgan Co, AL and Blount Co, TN researchers Today at the Morgan Co. Archives on Bank St., Decatur, in the early loose papers manuscript files I found three probate packets for GILLESPIEs The first is most interesting to my research since the papers of the GILLESPIE-HOUSTON MERCHANTILE BUSINESS, operated by Robert GILLESPIE and Matthew C. HOUSTON is the bulk of the estate for the decedent, ROBERT GILLESPIE of Blount Co, TN and Cotaco Co, AL. It seems he died sometime in the year 1817. The papers say 1811, but they have been penned over, and there are promissory notes in the packet from individuals dated in 1817. Some promissory notes are dated as early as 1812. Besides the naming of his heirs by t he court, what is most interesting to me and those looking for evidence of the James GILLESPIE who is NOT AN HEIR of Robert, is a paper from the Blount Co, State of TN and a similar one from Cotaco Co, AL naming JOHN GILLESPIE AND JAMES GILLESPIE as administrators of the estate of said, ROBERT GILLESPIE. They are dated 24 Dec 1821 for TN and 11 Oct 1820 for Cotaco Co, AL. A signature of JAMES GILLESPIE with Florishes is on the papers. Right now I cannot send you a transcription of the total papers. There were 48 pages in the packet. However, I am delighted at finding more information about these GILLESPIE familiies of early Cotaco/Morgan Co. Especially since many of the records for 1817-1819 burned. ============== A petition to the court by James and John Gillespie and attorney Feb 1818, states. Robert Gillespie decd,died intestate, departed this life sometime in the year 1811? (more likely 1817) leaving a widow (to wit: Mary G. Gillespie) and children as follows: Easter H. wife of Matthew C. Houston, Wm. F. Gillespie, above the age of 21, Martha L. Gillespie and James H. Gillespie who have for their guardian James Houston, appointed by the county court of Blount Co, aforesaid, Robert A., and Matthew Milton Gillespie who have for their guardian John Houston last appointed by the county court of said last named county, and Mary E. Gillespie who has for her guardian, Jacob F. ? appointed by the co. court of said county all of which children of the said Robert G. and under the age of 21 years your petitioneer states that letters of Adm. were granted to them in the said Co. of Blount in the year 1821 on said estate. They .....to state that the said Robert at the time of his death was in copartnership with the said Matthew C. Houston in a store in the said county of Morgan and consequently entitled to an undivided half of a certain lot of land in the town of Somerville in said Co. to wit, Lot #139 in the plan of said town which had been purchased and conveyed to the firm of Gillespie and Houston aforesaid. Your petitioner also sates that there are debts against the estate of the said Robert which can only be discharged by a sale of the real estate of which the decd...... They also state that the ......of said lot of land couold not be divided amont the children of the said Robert and that it would be greatly to the advantage of said children for the half of said lot to which the said Robert was entitled to be sold. They therefore pray that your honour may adm. and decree that the said lot above described as a part thereof as the estate of the said Robert may be entitled to be sold upon such certain conditions as to your honour may deem advantageous to the children of the said Robert....... signed James Gillespie and John Gillespie, by their attorney. ============= HELEN: I think that this James and John GILLESPIE later moved to Lawrence Co, AL and are the ones who appear on the 1840 census of that county. If you want I can send you more later. It seems that the ADM names were changed before all the sales were finished. The earlier papers were showing Mary Ann GILLESPIE admx. and Thos. D. Crabb Adm. Sep term 1818. So it does not explain why the Admx and adm were changed to John and James GILLESPIE. The names of slaves appear also in the papers as well as the kinds of merchandise sold at the store and names of all the debtors. I copied as many of these as possible. The archives charges $1.00 per print, so I only copies 7 pages of the manuscripts. Since I live hear, I think I could go back for more copies if I need to. Since the paper has lasted since 1814 and later, maybe it will be there a little longer. Another probate for the intestate, George H. GILLESPIE Dec 17, 1887 is also there. with many papers. He had a very large inventory at this store in Hartselle, AL , named Dickey and Gillespie , a merchantile store. He was the sole owner but had more debts than his goods and real estate would balance. The value was $2500. John F. GILLESPIE was t he adm. of the estate. heirs: J. C. Gillespie, P.M. Gillespie of Madison Co, AL and S.H. Morris, A.W. Sharply, S.N. Shackleford, F. B. Houston and W.A. Bayer? or Morgan Co, AL. IT was interesting that the drugs, medicine and fixtures in the store were worth but $400, but the soda fountain machine was said to be worth much more!. This estate was not settled until after 1893. The adm. had moved to Jefferson Co, AL and had an injunction against him for not settling the finances of the estate.

>From Helen Austin To Morgan Co, AL and Blount Co, TN researchers Today at the Morgan Co. Archives on Bank St., Decatur, in the early loose papers manuscript files I found three probate packets for GILLESPIEs The first is most interesting to my research since the papers of the GILLESPIE-HOUSTON MERCHANTILE BUSINESS, operated by Robert GILLESPIE and Matthew C. HOUSTON is the bulk of the estate for the decedent, ROBERT GILLESPIE of Blount Co, TN and Cotaco Co, AL. It seems he died sometime in the year 1817. The papers say 1811, but they have been penned over, and there are promissory notes in the packet from individuals dated in 1817. Some promissory notes are dated as early as 1812. Besides the naming of his heirs by t he court, what is most interesting to me and those looking for evidence of the James GILLESPIE who is NOT AN HEIR of Robert, is a paper from the Blount Co, State of TN and a similar one from Cotaco Co, AL naming JOHN GILLESPIE AND JAMES GILLESPIE as administrators of the estate of said, ROBERT GILLESPIE. They are dated 24 Dec 1821 for TN and 11 Oct 1820 for Cotaco Co, AL. A signature of JAMES GILLESPIE with Florishes is on the papers. Right now I cannot send you a transcription of the total papers. There were 48 pages in the packet. However, I am delighted at finding more information about these GILLESPIE familiies of early Cotaco/Morgan Co. Especially since many of the records for 1817-1819 burned. ============== A petition to the court by James and John Gillespie and attorney Feb 1818, states. Robert Gillespie decd,died intestate, departed this life sometime in the year 1811? (more likely 1817) leaving a widow (to wit: Mary G. Gillespie) and children as follows: Easter H. wife of Matthew C. Houston, Wm. F. Gillespie, above the age of 21, Martha L. Gillespie and James H. Gillespie who have for their guardian James Houston, appointed by the county court of Blount Co, aforesaid, Robert A., and Matthew Milton Gillespie who have for their guardian John Houston last appointed by the county court of said last named county, and Mary E. Gillespie who has for her guardian, Jacob F. ? appointed by the co. court of said county all of which children of the said Robert G. and under the age of 21 years your petitioneer states that letters of Adm. were granted to them in the said Co. of Blount in the year 1821 on said estate. They .....to state that the said Robert at the time of his death was in copartnership with the said Matthew C. Houston in a store in the said county of Morgan and consequently entitled to an undivided half of a certain lot of land in the town of Somerville in said Co. to wit, Lot #139 in the plan of said town which had been purchased and conveyed to the firm of Gillespie and Houston aforesaid. Your petitioner also sates that there are debts against the estate of the said Robert which can only be discharged by a sale of the real estate of which the decd...... They also state that the ......of said lot of land couold not be divided amont the children of the said Robert and that it would be greatly to the advantage of said children for the ahlf of said lot to which the said Robert was entitled to be sold. They therefore pray that your honour may adm. and decree that the said lot above described as a part thereof as the estate of the said Robert may be entitled to be sold upon such certain conditions as to your honour may deem advantageous to the children of the said Robert....... signed James Gillespie and John Gillespie, by their attorney. ============= HELEN: I think that this James and John GILLESPIE later moved to Lawrence Co, AL and are the ones who appear on the 1840 census of that county. If you want I can send you more later. It seems that the ADM names were changed before all the sales were finished. The earlier papers were showing Mary Ann GILLESPIE admx. and Thos. D. Crabb Adm. Sep term 1818. So it does not explain why the Admx and adm were changed to John and James GILLESPIE. The names of slaves appear also in the papers as well as the kinds of merchandise sold at the store and names of all the debtors. I copied as many of these as possible. The archives charges $1.00 per print, so I only copies 7 pages of the manuscripts. Since I live hear, I think I could go back for more copies if I need to. Since the paper has lasted since 1814 and later, maybe it will be there a little longer. Another probate for the intestate, George H. BILLESPIE Dec 17, 1887 is also there. with many papers. He had a very large inventory at this store in Hartselle, AL , named Dickey and Gillespie , a merchantile store. He was the sole owner but had more debts than his goods and real estate would balance. The value was $2500. John F. GILLESPIE was t he adm. of the estate. heirs: J. C. Gillespie, P.M. Gillespie of Madison Co, AL and S.H. Morris, A.W. Sharply, S.N. Shackleford, F. B. Houston and W.A. Bayer? or Morgan Co, AL. IT was interesting that the drugs, medicine and fixtures in the store were worth but $400, but the soda fountain machine was said to be worth much more!. This estate was not settled until after 1893. The adm. had moved to Jefferson Co, AL and had an injunction against him for not settling the finances of the estate.

Thanks, Teresa. This is great information. I think I've had correspondence with you some time past. Have you had much more success on tracking this family since then? Ciao, Maureen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, July 11, 1999 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [GILLESPIE-L] Re: Montgomerys, Gillespies, Houstons, etc >In a message dated 7/10/99 11:09:27 PM Central Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > ><< THE GILLESPYS FROM SCOTLAND TO BLOUNT CO, TN. > >> > >In this book does it mention a Andrew Gillaspie,Gillespie,Gilaspy being born >in TN around 1796. > >Thank you >Teresa > > >==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to [email protected] >with the one word, unsubscribe, in the BODY of the message. >http://www.efn.org/~dmorgan/ >

>From Helen Austin, Decatur, AL [email protected] just a reminder of the genealogy which was in the HISTORIC SOMERVILLE by Whitehorn: Robert Gillespie m Betsie Houston, dau of Maj. James Houston, children: 1) Esther m M.C. Houston 2) Capt. William Finley Gillespie 3) Rev. James Houston Gillespie (c 1804-after 1881) m 28 Oct 1830 in Philadelphia to Abbie C. Ellis, had 5 ch then moved to Florence 4 years, 1843 to Denmark, TN, then Brownsville, TN. 4) Martha Louise, 2nd wife of M. C. Houston Robert then married Patsie Houston (second cousin of Betsie) dau of John Houston of Pistol Branch, TN, and had 6 ch. 1) Betsie Ann 2) John L. 3) John Newton 4) Capt Robert Addison Gillespie (12 Jun 1815 Blount Co, TN-d 22 Sep 1846) He moved to AL 1831 in Somerville, then to New Orleans, then 1834 to TX, in Mexican war, bur San Antonio TX Mar 1847 5) Matthew Milton Gillespie d ca 1842 Fayette Co, TX 6) Mary Elizabeth Wife 3 of Robert was Mary King, a dau of Rev. Richard King. They had a dau. Mary who died young. {HELEN; perhaps there were more children as the estate records show minor children not named in the genealogy above. Or do I have it all wrong?} >From ORPHANS CT REGISTER, BOOK 1, COTACO CO, AL (Morgan Co.) 1818-1873 page 39, Cotaco County Ct Feb Term 1820 VS Tobias Grider and Elijah Hogan, assignees Alexander GILLESPIE, Adm and Thomas D. CRABB, adm of Robert GILLESPIE, decd. The complainants having filed their petition setting forth that the said ROBERT GILLESPIE did on the 19th day of Nov 1814, execute to William Hogan and Isiah Riley, his bond for the transfer of the assignment of the Certificate on lands in the SW 1/4 of Sec 18, Twp 4, R 1Eof the basis meridian on the 18 of Sep 1818.......notice....and held over to next term. page 76 August 1820 term: Isaac Yearry is chosen guardian of the estate of JOSEPH GILLESPIE, a son of ROBERT GILLESPIE, deceased, who entered into bond in the sum of five hundred dollars with Mary Ann GILLESPIE, Walter SHINAULT, Marvin KYLE and H. PHILPOTT, securities. Isaac Yearry is appointed guardian of the estate of SALLY GILLESPIE, NANCY GILLESPIE AND ANDREW GILLESPIE, infant children of Robert GILLESPIE, deceased who entered into a bond in the sum of fifteen hundred dollars with MARY ANN GILLESPIE, Walter Shinault, Marvin Kyle and H. Philpott, securities. ========== page 85 Wed 9th of Aug 1820 Tobias Grider and Elijah Hogan, assignees vs Mary Ann GILLESPIE, admx. and Thomas D. Crabb, admr. of ROBERT GILLESPIE, DECEASED. The complainants having filed their petition setting forth that the said ROBERT GILLESPIE did on the 19th of Nov 1814 execute to Wm. Hogan and Jos. Riley his bond for the transfer of the assignment of the Certificate on lands in the SW 1/4 of SEc 18-4-1 East of the basic meridian and on the 18 Sep 1818 the said Wm. Hogan and Jos. Riley having severally assigned all their resp. interests in the said ladn to the said petitioners. Notice is hereby ordered to be pub. in the ALABAMA REPUBLICAN once a mo for 3 cons. mo requiring all persons interested in the land to appear at the Ct.House in Somerville at the next term of Ct. Dec. to show cause why a decree should not be passed req. the def. to give the plain. title to the said land. ======== Mon 4 Dec 1820 A Decree of Conveyance of that land to convey to Wm.Hogan and Jos. Riley title . Said, Mary Ann Gillespie Admx. and Thos. D. Crabb Adm of Robert Gillespie decd. SW 1/4 of Sec 18, Twp 4, R 1 E and to pay the cost of the proceedings. ========= Jan 15, 1822, Another lawsuit against the extate by John Brahan p 124. Ordered to pay the plaintiff the sum of a debt and costs of the law suit.

In your email this morning you wrote: >>>>>>1-I have Neomi instead of Naomi because that is what is on her tombstone. 2-William Bright Gillespie. I have died May 19, 1889 from his tombstone. I have his wife as Kate Kuykendall from the History of Johnson Co., but this book has many mistakes. I also have a Kuykendall married to James Hiram. 3-I have Francis Marion's date of birth as April 21 not May from his tombstone. I obviously show he died in Johnson Co., IL, not TX. From other correspondence, I believe you said he went to TN, but came back to IL.<<<<<<<< Samuel and Francis Marion (if Samuel is indeed my ggrandfather) may have come to Texas together sometime between 1845 when Samuel was born and 1882 when my granfather Lantie is documented to have been born in Illinois. Our oral family history states that Samuel came to Texas from Tennessee while another brother went to Illinois. After a while the brother got very sick and they called upon Samuel to go to Illinois to take care of him. Perhaps Francis traveled with Samuel and he became very ill in Texas and Sam took him up to Illinois to be with the rest of the family. Texas was still a fairly remote wilderness up until the late 1800s and no place for a person with "consumption" or some such disease that was common in those days. This would explain why some family versions have Francis Marion going to Texas and others going to Illinois. It could very well be that he did go to Texas but then traveled on to Illinois where he died at Creal Springs. I know this is a lot of maybes, perhaps and ifs and is very poor geneology research but it does point out how many interesting mysteries are part of the puzzle. Just my two cents worth. Rick Gillespie

I don't want to beat this thread to death but Richard Addison Gillespie, the Texas Ranger apparently never used his first name but rather preferred to be called Addison or just Ad. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Larry & Barb Thomas <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 9:39 PM Subject: [GILLESPIE-L] Addison name >I sent this to Richard, but now I'll throw it out for the whole group. > >Of the children of Thomas L. and Catherine Beard Gillespie, he only had two >sons, both went to Illinois, as did all the younger children. The older >ones went to Carroll/Henderson Co., TN. The Gillespies and the Hall's had >intermarried for some time, and Thomas' daughter Jane married >Addison B. Hall. Both Jane and Addison died and are buried in Henderson >Co., TN. > >In another letter, Richard mentions a Samuel Walker. I don't know if this >means anything, maybe all just a coincedence of a common name, but I'll >throw it out for what its worth. John Morgan and Neoma Thompson >Gillespie's daughter Sarah, Samuel Huston Gillespie's little sister, >married a William P. Walker. Both Sara and William P. Walker are buried in >the Johnson Co., IL cemetery. > >Other Walker - Gillespie related combinations I have > >Roscoe Walker m. Maude Louise Farris b. 6/4/1882 >Robert B. Walker m. Mary Polly Gillespie m. 11/9/1824 (dau of Thomas and >Catherine). In 1840 they were in Henderson Co., TN. Don't know what >happen to them. >Jane Walker m.Thomas T. Gillespie on 7/20/1812 in Williamson Co., TN (This >is Issacs son, >Thomas L.'s cousin) >Fanny Walker m. John L. Hogg in 1863 (This is William P.'s sister, and John >Hogg is Thomas L.s grandson.) > >Once again, I don't know that this means anything, but obviously these >Gillespies were close to the Walkers also. > > >Larry > > >==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== >Support the USGenWeb Project! >http://www.usgenweb.org/ >

PS----Where are you located? I am 45 minutes from San Antonio. Rick -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [GILLESPIE-L] Texas Ranger Gillespie >Rick; > >I saw your message on the Gillspie line and, since I am the editor of a >military history journal, your information regarding the Texas Rangers was >interesting. Have you given any thought to writing an article about the early >Texas Rangers, their uniforms, arms, equipment and accomplishments? I suspect >the Texas State Library might have images of Walker and Gillespie that you >might use if you think you have the makings of an author. > >Best regards, > >Dave Sullivan >Editor >Military Collector and Historian >The Journal of the Company of Military Historians >Fall meeting, by the way, is at San Antonio! > > >==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== >Thomas Gillespie - Naomi Thompson > Isaac Gillespie - Mary Ann McGuire > Lydia Gillespie - James Durham -- That's My Line. What's Yours? >

Dear Dave: Actually I would love to write an article for you, although I have to admit I am a little intimidated about whether or not I possess the talents and skills to write professionally. My love of Texas History might make it a lobor of love that would work. What time frame are you looking at? There is one thing that I have precious little of and that is time. But yes, if you have a broad time frame I might be willing to give it a try. Feel free to give me more info. Rick Gillespie, DC San Marcos, TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [GILLESPIE-L] Texas Ranger Gillespie >Rick; > >I saw your message on the Gillspie line and, since I am the editor of a >military history journal, your information regarding the Texas Rangers was >interesting. Have you given any thought to writing an article about the early >Texas Rangers, their uniforms, arms, equipment and accomplishments? I suspect >the Texas State Library might have images of Walker and Gillespie that you >might use if you think you have the makings of an author. > >Best regards, > >Dave Sullivan >Editor >Military Collector and Historian >The Journal of the Company of Military Historians >Fall meeting, by the way, is at San Antonio! > > >==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== >Thomas Gillespie - Naomi Thompson > Isaac Gillespie - Mary Ann McGuire > Lydia Gillespie - James Durham -- That's My Line. What's Yours? >

I sent this to Richard, but now I'll throw it out for the whole group. Of the children of Thomas L. and Catherine Beard Gillespie, he only had two sons, both went to Illinois, as did all the younger children. The older ones went to Carroll/Henderson Co., TN. The Gillespies and the Hall's had intermarried for some time, and Thomas' daughter Jane married Addison B. Hall. Both Jane and Addison died and are buried in Henderson Co., TN. In another letter, Richard mentions a Samuel Walker. I don't know if this means anything, maybe all just a coincedence of a common name, but I'll throw it out for what its worth. John Morgan and Neoma Thompson Gillespie's daughter Sarah, Samuel Huston Gillespie's little sister, married a William P. Walker. Both Sara and William P. Walker are buried in the Johnson Co., IL cemetery. Other Walker - Gillespie related combinations I have Roscoe Walker m. Maude Louise Farris b. 6/4/1882 Robert B. Walker m. Mary Polly Gillespie m. 11/9/1824 (dau of Thomas and Catherine). In 1840 they were in Henderson Co., TN. Don't know what happen to them. Jane Walker m.Thomas T. Gillespie on 7/20/1812 in Williamson Co., TN (This is Issacs son, Thomas L.'s cousin) Fanny Walker m. John L. Hogg in 1863 (This is William P.'s sister, and John Hogg is Thomas L.s grandson.) Once again, I don't know that this means anything, but obviously these Gillespies were close to the Walkers also. Larry

Thought I would share this with the list. Perhaps someone knows something about the Texas Ranger, Richard Addison Gillespie. Rick Gillespie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Larry. I think you mentioned that you had additional info beyond Thomas L. and Catherine Beard. If it is easy to send I would like to see it. My big fear right now is that I am jumping to too many conclusions regarding Samuel Huston Gillespie. It is all just so close but I hope I am not building myself up for a big letdown. I'll poke around the library regarding Richard Addison Gillespie. I believe he was in Texas during the Texas Revolution and was an attorney in Bastrop and Austin, but he was best known for his life with the Texas Rangers. He was very close friends to another famous Indian Fighter and Texas Ranger Samuel Walker, who the Colt Walker pistols were named for. Richard Addison was heroically killed in the battle of Vera Cruz, Mexico. His body was transported to San Antonio and is buried in an old cemetary there. Sam Walker was so close to RA Gillespie that his wish was to be buried next to his best friend. They are in fact buried together. Recently, the Texas Historical Society wanted to exhume Walker's body and move it to the State Cemetary in Austin where so many of the famous Texans are buried. The newspaper stated that the family of Walker were very upset with the State Historical Commission because of Walker's wishes to remain with Gillespie forever and they did not want to violate that wish so they left him next to Gillespie. Right now I have no info at all that links RA with my family but we Texans are absolutley obssessed with Texas History and to have a relative that fought in the Texas Revolution or with the Texas Rangers is the closest thing to royalty we have here in Texas!!! :) I'm hungry for whatever you have as long as you don't mind me bugging you about it. Thanks again. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Larry & Barb Thomas <[email protected]> To: Richard Gillespie, DC <[email protected]> Date: Monday, July 12, 1999 7:27 PM Subject: Re: Gillespie >Richard, > >Thats interesting, the Richard Addison Gillespie. Thomas L. only had two >sons to carry on the name. First was John Lewis Gillespie who's family >seems pretty well laid out. The second was George who died early and only >had one child, James Bryson, whom quite a bit has been researched about. > >Anyway, all the younger children went to Illinois a little after 1850. The >older ones went to Carroll/Henderson Co., TN. The Gillespies and the >Hall's had intermarried for some time, and Thomas' daughter Jane married >Addison B. Hall. Both Jane and Addison died and are buried in Henderson >Co., TN. I say interesting because Addison is not a common name. Also, >Richard is a name that is carried on in Thomas' father George's family. >George's wife, Mary Graham, father was Richard Graham. George and Mary's >brother Richard Jr. were in the Rev. together and fought in the battle of >Cowpens. > >Now there were no boys that went to Henderson Co., but we know that Thomas' >daughter Naomi Thompson married John Morgan Gillespie, her first cousin in >Maury Co. I know very little about Thomas' brother George's children, so >maybe thats another choice. Unfortunately, I don't have much on what >happen to several of the children of George and Mary Graham Gillespie. > >I know this doesn't help much, but that Addison name sure sticks and being >from Thomas L. and Catherine Beard Gillespie. Let me know what you want me >to send you if anything. > > >Larry >

Dear Connie: According to Billie Steele's records Neoma and John Morgan Gillespie had several children, 2 of whom were Samuel Huston and Francis (Frank) Marion. She states that they both went to Texas. I am very excited that Samuel may be my ggrandfather. I am very curious about Francis Marion. Apparently he and Samuel both ended up in Texas, left to go to Illinois for some reason, my grandfather was born in Illinois and then Samuel and my grandfather Lantie returned to Texas without Francis, where he died in 1917 and is buried in Marlin, Texas. My grandfather Lantie is also buried in Bastrop County, Tx. If anyone has any information on Francis and Samuel I would really appreciate it. It would help me authenticate whether or not this Samuel is indeed my ggranfather. Thanks Rick Gillespie San Marcos, TX -----Original Message----- From: Connie MCKenzie <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 12:49 AM Subject: [GILLESPIE-L] Samuel House or Houston Gillespie >This is in response to Richard Gillespie in San Marcos, TX > >Your Gillespies must be connected to mine, but after searching a bit tonight >I can't connect the dots. John Morgan Gillespie and Naomi Thompson were 1st >cousins who married in Maury Co. TN in 1825 and are buried in Johnson Co >IL. The surnames of FARRIS, JOHNSON, and HOUSE that you mentioned are >connected to them in Johnson Co. IL. There are quite a few Samuel >Gillespies in this line. Our Gillespies also go into Williamson Co. TN and >I found more than one Samuel there, as well. This line also traveled >further north in Illinois. I'll do some more searching and get back to you. >And believe me you aren't even close to being the last surviving Gillespie! >I trip over them every where I go! > >Connie McKenzie, great-great-great grand-daughter of John Morgan and Neomi >Gillespie > > > >==== GILLESPIE Mailing List ==== >Please do not send HTML or enhanced text to this list. It will be >rejected by Rootsweb. And no spam, virus reports, modem tax hoaxes, > > >or other chain letters >