Hello, This is Ramona Gifford Mc Clean, Could Pauline's husband have been Lester or Leslie either name ,he was called Les or Charlie or Charles ? Born some where around Averll Pond ,I'm not sure of the spelling, also did the Shipman's have a daughter - Judith ? Married a Traveling Preacher? Thanks, Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: ARMSTRONG,DAVE <darmstrong1@neo.rr.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Phebe Gifford, b. 1861 Dartmouth, MA > Interesting! I have a great grandmother, Phebe Gifford married to John > Gifford. But that seems to be where all similarities end. My Phebe was the > daughter of Mathias Shipman. John, according to Bible records, was born in > Vermont to Pauline- don't know her husband's first name. > Karan Gifford Armstrong > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick and Carol Rogers <rogers5@innova.net> > To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:49 PM > Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Phebe Gifford, b. 1861 Dartmouth, MA > > > > Does anyone know the Gifford grandparents of Phebe T. Gifford, b. 1861 > > Dartmouth, MA. Parents: John A. Gifford, b. Dartmouth and Betsey Carr, > > b. Tiverton, RI? Phebe married Alonzo Mosher in New Bedford in 1876. > > She died 1882 in Fairhaven, MA. > > Having a hard time sorting out all the John A. Gifford's. > > Thanks for any help or leads. > > Carol Rogers > > rogers5@innova.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ramona McClean <ramonam@potlatch.com> > > To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK/ Susan Kudspeth, Micheal > > Wagner, Chris & Kim & Et Al > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Alan Norris <AlanNorris@access.net.au> > > >To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:30 AM > > >Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK > > > > > > > > >> I am interested in any information about my Grandfather William > > Gifford > > >and > > >> his father also William Gifford who both lived in Romsey. I think > > that my > > >> Great Grandfather may have had something to do with setting up a > > police > > >> force in Romsey. Contact me on anorris@access.net.au > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Alan Norris > > >> > > >> Melbourne Australia > > >> >>>>>I have > > >Lou Gerhig's so its much easier to type this up once & send it to > > everyone > > >that wants it rather than trying to send it to you seperatly,sorry, > > Ramona > > >Gifford > > >Mc Clean > > > > > > GENEALOGY > > > OF THE > > > GIFFORD > > > FAMILY > > > Down to the time of their emigration to America in > > > 1630 > > >The Family of Giffords are of High Antiguity, and were Seated at > > Honfleur, > > >in Normandy, three centuries before the conquest of England by Duke > > William. > > > > > > At the Battle of Hastings,in 1066, Sire Runddolph de > > >Gifford was one of theConqueror's standard beaters, and was > > rewardedby him > > >with land in Somereshire and Chesire wich were created into a > > Barony, from > > >wich his descendents had summons to Parliament. > > > > > > In the reign of Henry11, Sir Peter Gifford married > > >Alice, Daughter and Heirress of Sir Grey de Corbuchin, with whom he > > had the > > >Lordship of > > >Chillington, in Chesire, wich was the seat of the Dukes of Buckingham > > of > > >this family. > > > > > > Stephen Gifford was one of the Barons accompanying Richard Coeur > > de > > >Lion, to the Holy > > >Lands, and was killed in the siege of Jerusalem;and his son,Sir > > Stephen was > > >wounded there. > > > > > > This family enjoyed great distinctions in the English Courts for > > several > > >centuries, and no less than five peerages existed in it at one time. > > > > > > Baron George Gifford was made Earl of Buckingham by Henery V, But > > >joining the house of York against that of Lancaster, and being one of > > the > > >prime favorites of King Edward V,he was created > > >Duke ofBuckingham And married the Princess Maud Plantaganet, the > > King's > > >cousin. > > > > > > His Son, George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham, > > >Was one of the favorites of the Duke of Gloucester - > > >afterwards King Richard 111, and being detected in the act of > > corresponding > > >with the Earl of Richmond(Henry 11)he was attainted of High Treason > > and > > >beheaded by Richard's Orders. > > > > > > The Duke of Buckingham left several infant children, but as > > theyas they > > >had been deprived of their lands and titles, that mercenary King V11 > > found > > >it more convenient not to restore them, and Humphrey Stafford, a > > very > > >powerful noble, having married the eldest daughter of Henry,and was > > created > > >by him, the Duke of Buckingham. > > > > > > The Staffords followed the fate of their maternal ancestor, and > > the > > >Grandson of Humphrey was beheaded and his family deprived of their > > estates > > > > > > Of the Sons ofthe last George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham,George > > >continued the first line and continually solicited the Crown and > > Parliament > > >for > > >his restoration; but from the opposition of his powerful brother- > > in - law > > >(Stafford ), was always > > >defeated. > > > > > > The Giffords, in the riegn of King Henry V111 and > > >Queens Mary and Elizabeth ineffectually put their claims before the > > English > > >Parliament, never, however being able to attain a judgement. > > > > > > In the reign of James 1, Sir Ambrose Gifford > > >claimed before the House of Peers to be Duke of > > >Bellingham, and in the second reign of Charles 1 > > >his claim was disallowed on account of his poverty. > > >(See Dugale's Extracts and Baronies.) > > > > > > Walter Gifford, the son of Sir Ambrose, emigrated from England > > to > > >Massachusetts Bay in > > >1630, and was the originator of the American branch of the ancient > > family. > > > > > > Of the descendants of this family who have been noted, are the > > >celebrated critic, Sir John Gifford and Lord Gifford, the master of > > the > > >Rolls, who prosecuted, while English Attorny General, the wife of > > George the > > >1V(Queen Caroline) upon a charge of high crimes and misdemeannnors. > > > > > > Coat of Arms > > >Gules,three lionspassent; argent; crest, and arm couped above the > > >elbow;vested or, charged with two barswavy azzure; cuffed white; > > holding in > > >the hand a stag's head-cabosed, gules. > > > > > > "Non Sine Numin" > > > > > >Explanation-- Gules - red; Argent- white; Cuped- > > >cut off; Vested- gold; Azure- Blue; Cabosed- with out the neck. > > > > > >Motto - " Nothing without the Divinity" > > > > > >Mediaa Research Bureau, Washington D. C. > > > > > >Gifford is of Norman Origin and means "Liberal > > >Gifter" Was written Giffart or Gifferd > > > > > >Love to All, Ramona "Mona"Gifford Mc Clean > > >Both my Mother's & Father's sodes of the family > > >had the messy habit of getting themselves seperated from their > > HEADS!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >