For those of you stumbling around trying to place found, previously missing, pieces together as I am, here is a correction of information derived from LDS records. My search started with the ancestry of my gggrandmother, Emma Elizabeth Gifford. Emma was born in New Corydon, Jay County, Indiana on March 29, 1850 to Joshua Gifford, Jr. and Phebe. Emma married Samuel T. Sutton in West Line, Cass County, Missouri on October 14, 1874. Emma and Samuel had six children: 1872 John W. 1875 Carrie Mae (my ggrandmother) 1879 Charles H. 1882 Elmer D. 1884 Elzina Iona 1890 Lulu (Lou) Emma and Samuel lived their entired married life in Louisburg, Kansas where they operated a restaurant named the 'Star Restaurant'. The lot their house occupied is now a creek-fed natural area in the southern part of South Louisburg. Both Emma and Samuel are buried in the Old Louisburg Cemetery. The LDS records had reported Emma being from Franklin, Indiana, born in 1855 to Thomas and Catherine Gifford. After we travelled to Franklin and started reading the old newspapers we discovered the LDS error. For your records: The Emma from Franklin was indeed born in 1855 to Thomas and Catherine. To update the available information you can add that Catherine's maiden name was Case and that Thomas was a wealthy physician who practiced mainly in and around Indianapolis rather than in Franklin. There are few mentions of his medical activities in Franklin. Thomas Gifford spent much of his time buying surrounding property in Franklin and eventually built the home known locally as the Gifford Mansion where many Franklin County social functions took place. Thomas and Catherine's daughter, Emma, was a bit of a socialite and became a school teacher at the age of 22 while still in Franklin. By this time we were certain this wasn't OUR Emma and discontinued any further research there in Franklin. We hope this info will be of some use to another Gifford researchers. It just goes to show that just because someone else has done the research for you, it still might not be right. Because of our ability to travel fulltime in our motor coach we were able to spend the time in the exact area to verify what we needed. Plus it's fun to retrace steps, even if they are the wrong ones in Franklin, Indiana. Now, if anyone has info on Joshua Gifford, Jr. (or Sr.) we would appreciate it. Joshua was born in Columbia County, Canaan TWP, NY. During research in Tulsa, Oklahoma last month we could only find a couple of references to a Joshua Gifford, Jr. in Canaan, Columbia County, NY. >From the church records of Saint Thomas Luthern Church, 1711-1905 reads: "1826, March 8 (2.00) Married Mr. Joshua Gifford, Jr., to Miss Betsey Woodruff, Canaan. In presence of Mrs. Olive, Abrm. & Cornelius Vanderpool & others." Other research into Betsey shows her to be a bit of a flake of the times as she is admitted to and excommunicated from other churches left and right. We're hoping that if this is our Joshua, Jr. that the marriage didn't last long and Joshua, Jr. later married Phebe. The 1840 New York Census lists Joshua, Jr. with 5 people in the household, agriculture being the trade. It also lists Joshua (Sr.?) Gifford with 4 people and farming, Enos Gifford with 4 people and farming, and Ephraim Gifford with 3 people and farming. This is all we have; sounds like a lot, but we need the definite connection between our Emma Elizabeth Gifford and the Joshua Gifford, Jr. from tis 1840 NY Census. So, who out there has the answer? Thanks, Tom and Denise Jenkins Searching for: Gifford, Ireland, Irland, Sutton, Valentine, Jenkins, Van Flaesbeeck, Volkertszen