Hi Gordon, Thanks for the information as to the source of the belief that Capt. Gideon Gifford was the father of [William Gifford (b. abt. 1756 in NY - d. August 15, 1846 in Erie Co., PA)]. I look forward to receiving the addresses of the family of W. Pitt Gifford. If you have any further information as to the full name of Ms. Crain (author of book Ginny has in her possession) and the year of publication and the name and location of the publisher, I would appreciate learning it. Did Ginny ever give you the identity of Mary's Aunt Netta? Meanwhile, I have been trying (without success so far) to find out more about Stewart and Davenport Shirk, sons of Charles C. Shirk who were apparently living in Tulsa Oklahoma on May 23, 1911. Incidently, last week I ran across a Susan McMackin Reynolds <SPrimeMD@aol.com> who referred me to you as a source of Gifford-Allison data. Best regards, David On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 14:28:38 EDT walk.inn@juno.com (Gordon R. Walk) writes: > Dave: > The source that I have for Capt Gideon Gifford as the father of >William is from a book writen from Ms. Crain . She gives her source as >anouther book which was completed 100 years ago , in which the author >did his own tree , but included several partial trees that he comleted >by writing all the Giffords and taking their word on their ancestory >.(Less than scientific research) > Virginia has this book in her possession , but because of its age , >the next time it is opened , it might be the last time . I am not >willing to do this at this time , perhas someone in this group has a >remake of this book and we won't have to bother it . > Also got addresses for Pitts family , they live near you . I will >mail you this privately later . >Gordon Walk >_____________________________________________________________________ >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get >completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno >at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]