Brick wall; now I've got a REAL brick wall. I am on this list helping a friend who not only does not have Internet access, he doesn't even have a computer (shudder). His family has not been able to determain past Joseph Gifford, b. 1833 in PA. I have been in contact with Mike Gifford and many other GIFFORD reseachers to no avail. Some think that Joseph was part of the New York Gifford clan but have no leads. Here is a recap: Descendants of Joseph Gifford Generation No. 1 1. JOSEPH1 GIFFORD was born April 24, 1833 in Uniontown, PA, and died February 19, 1909 in Merriam, Johnson , KS. He married NANCY SUSAN MAXEY1,2 July 20, 1865 in Johnson County, Kansas, daughter of WILLIAM MAXEY and ELIZABETH JOHNSON. She was born April 09, 1844 in Jasper County, MO, and died December 13, 1926 in Olathe City, Johnson, KA. More About JOSEPH GIFFORD: Census 1: June 21, 1870, Gardner Twp, Johnson, KS Census 2: June 03, 1880, Gardner Twp, Johnson KS Masonic: Kansas Notes for NANCY SUSAN MAXEY: In 1850 Census she is listed as Susanah, 1860 as Nancy S. and 1870 as Susan. In 1910 Census with son George, Olathe, KS In 1920 Census living alone, Olathe, KS Children of JOSEPH GIFFORD and NANCY MAXEY are: i. MARY J2 GIFFORD, b. April 22, 1866, Johnson, KS; d. July 09, 1921; m. WILLIAM JEFFERS, July 31,1890, Wayne Co., IL; b. Bet. 1855 - 1865, Unknown; d. Bet. 1900 - 1930, Unknown. ii. ELIZA ELLEN GIFFORD, b. November 04, 1868, Kansas; d. February 09, 1963; m. MILTON BRUFFETT, June 28, 1888, Norborne, Carroll, MO; b. Bet. 1860 - 1870, Unknown; d. Bet. 1945 -1965, Unknown. iii. ESTELLA G. GIFFORD, b. November 21, 1870, Kansas; d. October 01, 1961; m. CLINTON TERRY, November 07, 1892, Wayne Co., IL; b. Bet. 1860 - 1870, Unknown; d. Bet. 1925 - 1950, Unknown. Notes for CLINTON TERRY: Possible daughters or Granddaughters---Dorothy Terry, Rita Jean Terry. There is also a Jimmy Terry. There is a Clinton Terry in SSDI, b. Oct 8, 1880. This would make him ten years younger than Estella but it is possible it is the correct person. iv. ETHIE E. GIFFORD, b. October 22, 1872, Kansas; d. April 04, 1945; m. CLOYD SENTER, February 09, 1891, Wayne Co., IL. Notes for CLOYD SENTER: There is one Cloyd Senter in the SSDI. Born May 18, 1887, died Nov, 1963. SSA issued in Texas. This MAY be the correct Cloyd, but he would have married a woman 15 years older than himself. v. SARAH ELIZABETH GIFFORD, b. August 31, 1874, Kansas; d. September 08, 1891, Probably Kansas. vi. BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GIFFORD, b. January 09, 1877, Johnson, Kansas; d. June 27, 1955, Collinsville, OK; m. AVRA LAETITIA LEE, November 28, 1900; b. February 17, 1882, Bagdad, Shelby Co., KY; d. 1940, Unknown. Notes for BENJAMIN FRANKLIN GIFFORD: Frieda and Dave and Vi are mentioned in a letter written right after B.F. Gifford's passing. Partners with G. W. Gifford in Gifford Bros. Plumbing, Olathe, Kansas. In 1900 Census, Kansas, City, KS. Benjamin is enumerated with the BRUFFETT family and also there is James Gifford, b. March 1878, KS. with them. I do not know who this James Gifford is, probably a cousin. vii. GEORGE WESLEY GIFFORD, b. September 21, 1879, Johnson Co., KS; d. March 15, 1916, La Cygne, KS; m. NINA PARSLEY, June 1912, Kansas City, KS; b. July 27, 1881, Le Roy, Kansas; d. October 24, 1968, Olathe, Johnson,KS. Notes for GEORGE WESLEY GIFFORD: Partners with B.F. Gifford in Gifford Bros, Plumbing, Olathe, Kansas. viii. ROSA EUGENIA GIFFORD, b. October 26, 1882, Johnson Co., KS; d. October 18, 1965; m. JOE D. MILLER, January 26, 1910; b. Bet. 1872 - 1885. Endnotes 1. Nancy Maxey birth record, sheet 26, batch 5002230, IGI files & Rep. Glen Maxey, TX. family tree. 2. Gifford & Maxey family records.