In a message dated 03/01/99 9:48:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, STAHL143@aol.com writes: << Patty...could you list your lineage? Distant cousins in my Gifford line are always claiming that we are related to Frank Gifford, too. Maybe we have a connection - >> Okay, this may be a little confusing, but here goes. Margaret Wagoner b. 1841 IL m. (1)Mr. Gifford, b. in Canada Alfred Daniel Gifford, b. 1861 in IA, d. 1918 in Nevada Frank L. Gifford, b. 1862 in IA or CA? Margaret m. (2) Mr. Nelson Clarence Nelson, b. 1870 in Penn Valley, CA, d. 1924 in Bakersfield, CA William Fernando Nelson, b. in CA Alfred Daniel Gifford m. Fannie Davis b. 1867 (does anybody know who Fannie's parents were?) Ethel Estella Gifford, b. 1887 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1962 in Chico, CA Carrie Blanche Gifford, b. 1889 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1965 in Chico, CA Charles Alfred Gifford, b. 1891 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1918 in Bonniers, France Roy Lorraine Gifford, b. 1892 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1947 in Sacramento, CA Frank L. Gifford is believed to be the grandfather of Frank Gifford, the football player. Carrie Blanche Gifford is my Dad's mother, my Grandma. My Grandma always said the Giffords originally came from Ireland. I'm working on the Frank L. Gifford line for info as to his and Alfred's father. Alfred had a stroke and died at age 57. Frank L. kept a saloon in Bakersfield, CA and I'm hoping to find some more info that way. Frank Gifford, the football player was born in Bakersfield, CA in 1925. Let me know if anybody finds a link to this info! I have the Alfred Gifford family Bible. Patty Mulder PMulder749@aol.com http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html Patty's Most Wanted!