Dorthy, What a breath of fresh air. I have been having a tough time with Canadian Giffords as well. I wonder if we are related to the same Perry Gifford. I don't have any information on his marriage or siblings but what I DO have is the following, He had a son, John Robert Gifford, who married Rebecca Ann Mead John Robert and Rebecca had 9 children - all born in Canada best I can tell. I have their names but before I go any further - do you think there is a connection here? Ken -- ___________________________________________ Curiosity is the wick in the candle of learning ___________________________________________ Ken Pollock Ph: 602.438.0551 Email: pollock1@home.com