In going through the book titled "Index of Revolution War pentions" I found some Giffords listed . William of NY Survivor warant John of NY Survivor Elisha of NY, Polly Widow 1842 It lists the warant and bounty land warant #s for these people. In anouther book titled "Ny in Revolution "lists as POW William B Gifford, Estated confiscated: Benjamin Gifford Land Bounty: Joseph Gifford This book does list more details than I have given . These books are old and not very organised , but they do contain information on these names that I have listed . I hope this helps . Gordon Walk ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.