In a message dated 1/30/2000 8:48:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, GIFFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << After my grandmother died, I found an envelope with old photos of Edmund GIFFORD and Livonia GIFFORD in it. The photographer was E. A. Kusel, Oroville and Chico. Someone had written California on them, so I assume they were living in California at the time they were taken. There was one other photo - Ellen PINGREE with W. S written above the name in different script. The photographer was G. H. Sherman in Elgin, Ill. >> Oroville and Chico are definitely in California, so you are right on that one. I keep running across Edmund Gifford in various local (Butte County) records, but he isn't one of mine. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Patty Mulder PMulder749@aol.com http://members.aol.com/pmulder749/wanted/wanted.html Patty's Most Wanted!