In a message dated 03/01/99 9:48:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, STAHL143@aol.com writes: << Patty...could you list your lineage? Distant cousins in my Gifford line are always claiming that we are related to Frank Gifford, too. Maybe we have a connection - >> Okay, this may be a little confusing, but here goes. Margaret Wagoner b. 1841 IL m. (1)Mr. Gifford, b. in Canada Alfred Daniel Gifford, b. 1861 in IA, d. 1918 in Nevada Frank L. Gifford, b. 1862 in IA or CA? Margaret m. (2) Mr. Nelson Clarence Nelson, b. 1870 in Penn Valley, CA, d. 1924 in Bakersfield, CA William Fernando Nelson, b. in CA Alfred Daniel Gifford m. Fannie Davis b. 1867 (does anybody know who Fannie's parents were?) Ethel Estella Gifford, b. 1887 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1962 in Chico, CA Carrie Blanche Gifford, b. 1889 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1965 in Chico, CA Charles Alfred Gifford, b. 1891 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1918 in Bonniers, France Roy Lorraine Gifford, b. 1892 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1947 in Sacramento, CA Frank L. Gifford is believed to be the grandfather of Frank Gifford, the football player. Carrie Blanche Gifford is my Dad's mother, my Grandma. My Grandma always said the Giffords originally came from Ireland. I'm working on the Frank L. Gifford line for info as to his and Alfred's father. Alfred had a stroke and died at age 57. Frank L. kept a saloon in Bakersfield, CA and I'm hoping to find some more info that way. Frank Gifford, the football player was born in Bakersfield, CA in 1925. Let me know if anybody finds a link to this info! I have the Alfred Gifford family Bible. Patty Mulder PMulder749@aol.com http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html Patty's Most Wanted!

Patty, Thanks for the information. If I have any luck in researching my Gifford line, I will pass on the information to you. Thanks for your help. If you come up with any "Ireland" information regarding your Gifford line, please keep me in mind. Kathy PMulder749@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 01/19/99 10:23:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, Kathy McClung > <rmcclung@sprintmail.com> writes: > > << Does anyone know if Frank Gifford's (of football fame and husband to > Kathie Lee)ancestors came from County Cork, Ireland? I am researching > the Gifford name and am curious about his lineage. >> > > Since my calculations indicate that Frank is my second cousin, once removed, I > wish I could answer your question in regards to Ireland. My Grandma, who was > born a Gifford, always said that's where they came from. The farthest back I > have been able to get on the Gifford lineage is to determine that my Great- > great-Grandpa Gifford was born in Canada. This info came from my great > Grandpa, Alfred Gifford's marriage registration in Bakersfield, Kern Co., CA. > By the way, that's also where Frank Gifford was born. > > Patty Mulder > PMulder749@aol.com > http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/genealogy.html

Patty...could you list your lineage? Distant cousins in my Gifford line are always claiming that we are related to Frank Gifford, too. Maybe we have a connection - Thanks- Karin Stahl

In a message dated 01/19/99 10:23:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, Kathy McClung <rmcclung@sprintmail.com> writes: << Does anyone know if Frank Gifford's (of football fame and husband to Kathie Lee)ancestors came from County Cork, Ireland? I am researching the Gifford name and am curious about his lineage. >> Since my calculations indicate that Frank is my second cousin, once removed, I wish I could answer your question in regards to Ireland. My Grandma, who was born a Gifford, always said that's where they came from. The farthest back I have been able to get on the Gifford lineage is to determine that my Great- great-Grandpa Gifford was born in Canada. This info came from my great Grandpa, Alfred Gifford's marriage registration in Bakersfield, Kern Co., CA. By the way, that's also where Frank Gifford was born. Patty Mulder PMulder749@aol.com http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/genealogy.html

Hello Cousins, Perhaps someone already has this info that I and my third cousin have been trying to sort out. We have a HARVEY GIFFORD m. LYDIA TIBBITS westport, ma Nov. 30, 1820 Also intentions JAMES H. GIFFORD intentions LYDIA TIBBETS westport Oct 30, 1820. We conclude the two are the same. Does anyone know the parents and birth location of either. I can't find good reference to either m-g-grandparent. Rick Arruda Attleboro, MA

Are there any County Cork Giffords out there? I am researching the Gifford name with County Cork roots. Thanks. Kathy

Good question. I do not know where they were married, my grandmothers book doesn't say. However, Bernice Arline Lake was born in Hart, Oceana Co., MI. At some point, and my mother doesn't know when, the family moved to Benton Harbor, Berrien Co., MI. I also know that Jennie, Samuel and Bernice are all buried at Crystal Springs Cemetary. I wrote to the cemetary asking for information on all three, but have not received a reply. I also offered to reimburse them for their work. Thanks for any help provided. RAFCAF -----Original Message----- From: Michael Wagner <mkwagner@execpc.com> To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, February 21, 1999 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Jennie Gertrude Gifford >What city??? Michael > >Richard A. Frazier wrote: > >> I'm looking for information on Jennie Gertrude Gifford, m 20 Feb 1895 to a >> Samuel C. Lake. They had 6 children, Ira Camden, Leona May, Oscar Wiles, >> William J., Herbert, and my grandmother, Bernice Arline. >> >> I'd appreciate any information on either of them. >> >> Thanks >> >> RAFCAF > > >

What city??? Michael Richard A. Frazier wrote: > I'm looking for information on Jennie Gertrude Gifford, m 20 Feb 1895 to a > Samuel C. Lake. They had 6 children, Ira Camden, Leona May, Oscar Wiles, > William J., Herbert, and my grandmother, Bernice Arline. > > I'd appreciate any information on either of them. > > Thanks > > RAFCAF

I'm looking for information on Jennie Gertrude Gifford, m 20 Feb 1895 to a Samuel C. Lake. They had 6 children, Ira Camden, Leona May, Oscar Wiles, William J., Herbert, and my grandmother, Bernice Arline. I'd appreciate any information on either of them. Thanks RAFCAF

Does anyone know if Frank Gifford's (of football fame and husband to Kathie Lee)ancestors came from County Cork, Ireland? I am researching the Gifford name and am curious about his lineage. Thank you very much. Kathy

I will be out of town for a few days starting tomorrow (Wednesday). I'll be back late on Sunday. I will check all my messages and take care of any problems early next week. Happy Hunting All! Luann Garrett Listowner

Does anyone have any info on William Bedford Gifford born July 11, 1870 in Tennessee? He married Cordelia (LNU) in Perry Co., TN Sept. 8, 1886 and they had 6 children: Dora Florance, George T., Sarah Minnie, Ada Estelee, Annie M. and Albert Dewey. Cordelia died Feb. 3, 1909. Then he married M.L. Flippo who also left him a widower. His 3rd marriage was to Delphia Flippo on March 28, 1909 and they had 2 children: Rochonell and William Isaac. Any info on any of these people would be greatly appreciated!!! Karin Stahl

Hi people, I have just compiled the following list for Robin Thackaberry of Perth, WA. These books are wonderful sources of information concerning prominent families of the middle ages, as the GIFFORDs certainly were. As long as I already had it done, I thought some of the rest of you might find it helpful. If anyone needs more information, e.g. the author's full name, publishing details, etc., please let me know and I'll be happy to look them up for you. Complete Peerage: Gibbs Some Early English Pedigrees: Knorr Some Feudal Lords & Their Seals (MCCCJ): de Walden General & Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages: John Burke (although I thought that this one had a lot of errors, compared with some of the others, who generally agree with each other) Noble and Gentle Men of England: Shirley Family Origins: Round The Pedigree Register: Sherwood The Peerage of England: Collins Monumental Brasses: Macklin Catalogue of the Heralds' Visitations: Printed for James Taylor Catalogue of Knights: Townsend Pedigree and Progress: Wagner Baronetage of England: Betham Debrett's Illustrated Baronetage, Knightage, and House of Commons Roll of the Battle Abbey (there are several of these extant, all slightly different in content; they list those who were at Hastings with William) Vicissitudes of Families: Burke Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages of the British Empire: Burke Pedigrees from the Press of G. Bouchier Richardson Dormant & extinct Baronage of England (10566 - 1806): Banks Estates of the Higher Nobility in Fourteenth Century England: Holmes Fifty Earliest English Wills in the Court of Probate, London (1387-1439): Furnivall Baronia Anglica Concentrata or Baronies in Fee: Banks Family Records: Burke A Medieval Society - The West Midlands at the End of the 13th Century: Hilton Ancient Families in the British Isles: Austin Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica: Hughes Happy researching, Merry Guido (Researching LAKIN and Allied Families) merry@inconnect.com

Hi Rootsfolks, I'm looking for information on the following Giffords: Francis GIFFORD, b. 1822, Canada; d. 7 Aug 1877, Old Town, ME married Margaret (surname unknown), b. 1826; Canada, d. 11 Sep 1869, Old Town, ME \ John V. GIFFORD, b. 13 Sep 1844, Old Town, ME; d. 30 Sep 1913 TIA for any help. Karen Sullivan ALDEN and KINGSLEY Listowner Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/

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Hi All, I havent listed this in a while so here goes. I m looking for an Alexander Gifford born around 1775, Place ? NY or Pa or ? He may have a older brother named Robert. Alex appears in Md around 1807 married to a Mary Johnson and dies in Md in 1821. Any and all leads and information would be helpful. I do have information on them after 1810, but not place or dates of birth, nor the parents names. Also looking for information on a Capt. Robert Fairweather and his wife Jane Fairweather. Robert from Philidelphia,Pa, his wife buried 1880's in Baltimore. Thank you for your time. Michael Wagner Wisconsin

Re. Robin Thackabary's request: A family tree for the Devon Giffords (Giffords of Halsbury) is in J. L. Vivian's The Visitations of the County of Devon pages 396 - 403. The tree starts with Osbert de Bolbec and goes through the late 1800s. I photocopied this years ago in the Boston Public Library. However, I don't see a Samuel Gifford in this tree. Some other sources: 1) Wescote, A View of Devonshire - Boston Public Library (BPL) pgs 627, 628. 2) Tuckett, Devonshire Pedigrees - BPL several pages. 3) Worthy, Devonshire Wills BPL pg 92. 4) Colby, Visitations of Devon. 5) Burkes Landed Gentry, pgs 2-8 Brightly. 6) Williams B., Ancient Westcounty Families and Their Armorial Bearings. 7) Worthy, Charles, Devonshire Parishes -- 28 families, 8) Roger Granville, Abstracts of the Existing Transcripts 1596-1644, 9) George Wrottelsey, The Giffards, William Salt Society Collections, (pgs 12, 19-44)New Ser. v., 1902; + The Ancestor, iii. 223-8 John Gifford ----- Original Message ----- From: Robin Thackaberry <rthackaberry@hotmail.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 6:47 AM Subject: [GIFFORD-L] GIFFORDS OF Devon >Is there anybody who has any information at all about the GIFFORDs of >Devon? I have traced my branch back to the Mary Tavy area where they >were living in the middle of the last century. (My ancestor was Samuel >Fice GIFFORD). I understand that there is a history of the family in >Devon that goes back hundreds of years. Is there a GIFFORD expert who >can help? Perhaps someone could give me some sources I could explore. > >Any suggestions would be appreciated. > >Regards > >Robin Anne Thackaberry >Perth, Western Australia > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >

Hello, All; Perhaps not directly in answer to Robin Thackaberry of Perth, WA, I can offer the following excerpt from approximately 500 years of medieval GIFFORDs. (Alas, none in Devon.) Osberne de Bolebec, Lord of Longueville, was born in Normandy before 1028. He married Avelina. Osberne went to England with William in 1066. William rewarded with land those who had helped him secure the throne of England. Osberne was given land at Brimpsfield, Gloucestershire. Osberne Gyffarde (son of Osberne and Avelina) was born at Brimpsfield, and died about 1086. (Sorry, I don't know why he took the name, but it was fairly common to do so in those days.) Elias Giffard III, (second great grandson of Osberne) married Maude Fitz Robert Fitz Harding, bringing Berkeley Castle into the family. Sir John Giffard (sixth great grandson of Osberne) was born at Twyford, Berkshire, and was a Knight of the Shire. Thus begins a long line of Knights of Berkshire, most of whom were named John. I lose the Gifford line with Amy, (14th great granddaughter of Osberne) who was born around 1485 or 1490, also at Twyford. The Giffords were related by marriage to (among others) such powerful medieval English families as de BOCLAND, de CLIFFORD, le STRANGE, and VAUX. If anyone is interested in the missing generations, I can provide that information. Sorry Robin, not a single Gifford in Devon do I have. :^( But maybe this branch will be interesting to someone. Merry Guido Salt Lake City, Utah, USA merry@inconnect.com ICQ 23061054 Researching LAKIN

Is there anybody who has any information at all about the GIFFORDs of Devon? I have traced my branch back to the Mary Tavy area where they were living in the middle of the last century. (My ancestor was Samuel Fice GIFFORD). I understand that there is a history of the family in Devon that goes back hundreds of years. Is there a GIFFORD expert who can help? Perhaps someone could give me some sources I could explore. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Regards Robin Anne Thackaberry Perth, Western Australia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Can someone tell me a Gifford decendancy which includes Elizabeth Gifford thought to be the daughter of Mr Gifford, b. abt 1766. It is believed she married John Furman b 1766 of Newtown LI NY. and they moved to Berne to farm. There is a Besty Gifford buried in the Gifford Furman cemetery in Berne. I just want support her first name and marriage. I have part of the William Gifford of Sandwich Mass, decendancy that is printed in the New England Historical and Genealogical R egister, from Oct 1975 through Oct 1977. It stops with Enos and his decendants. I am looking for the rest of the copies before and after. I can copy them in Salt Lake later when I go in a few weeks, so you can give me page numbers etc. Thanks Marita