I have Phillip and Mary Turner as the parents also . I don't have dates on William and Phillip , but the 1615 date seems corect . This is not my own research so I can't verify any of it . This tree also has Edmonde as Phillips father . Jabez supposedly had a brother named Gideon and all of the children had the same names as the children of William that I am working on . Supposedly Williams father was Gideon . Hence an assumption was made that these were the same Gideons . It never pays to assume in this hobby. When I found that this line wasn't mine , I didn't persue it any further , but I hung on to the reference just in case . Gordon Walk On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 21:29:28 -0500 "John W. Atwood" <jwatwood@uswest.net> writes: >Gifford is my wife's line. I have William, but my wife descends from >William's >son William, who I assume would be an Uncle to Jabez. I also have >parents >for >William as Philip Gifford and Mary Turner, however the birth dates I >have >for >them are wrong or they are not William's parents. Kind of hard to be >born >in >1615 and have your parents be born in 1638. I got the data from >someone >else, >So don't have the original info to fall back on. > >John. > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Hi all, Jabez Gifford (1686-1761) was the grandson of William Giffford of Sandwich, MA (1615-1687). Can some one help me with his children's names and birth/marriage/death data? Thanks for any help. Best regards, David ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Below is a message I recieved from relatives in California who was with my Great aunt when she passed on to her maker and to her family members waiting for her. I wanted to pass this on to the list as she was the last child living of Reverand Charles T. Gifford and Harriet Direxa (Rowan) Gifford my gg grandparents. IN MEMORY OF MY GREAT AUNT: Mary Mabel Faye Gifford, daughter of Rev. Charles Tabor and Harriett Direxa (Rowen) Gifford, was born March 17, 1903 in Gifford, Iowa. Her father who operated Gifford General Store and pastored the Gifford Methodist Church died in 1911. In 1913 Mary moved with her family to Marshalltown, Iowa where she attended the Marshalltown Schools and graduated from Marshalltown Business College. She worked at a secretary and bookkeeper for several local merchants. On July 15, 1925 Mary married Sidney LeRoy (Roy) Everist and they moved to Eldora, Iowa, where they operated the Everist Oil Company until 1927 when they moved to Marshalltown to operate Roy's father's service station. On July 4, 1928 they moved to Mason City, Iowa where they operated several different businesses until Sept. 1950 when they moved to Ocean Beach, California. In 1962 she completed her high school education. Roy died May 12, 1958. Mary moved to Anaheim in 1968 and in 1994 she moved to her daughter, Billie's home in LaHabra. Mary was a member of Wesley Methodist Church, Mason City, Ia. , Point Loma Methodist Church from 1950 to 1968. She became a member of Anaheim United Methodist Church on Sept. 22, 1968. She was Women's District treasurer for many years. She was a member of Morning Squares. She made many items for the church bazaar. She was also a member of Anaheim Senior Citizen Center, and Partners in Chime. She made many Christmas stockings for family members as well as friends. She operated a computer and sent email to all her children and other family members. Mary had several hospitalizations beginning November 1998 and had a stroke on January 19, 1999. On January 21, 1999 she entered Berryman Health East Whittier where she passed away April 2, 1999. Happy to have shared Mary's life are her daughters, Lois Everist Harder, Sioux Falls, SD and Wilmyth (Billie ) Crowder, La Habra; her 3 sons and their spouses: Kempton and Margaret Everist, LaGrange, CA; Rev. Carroll and Dixie Everist, Mulvane, KS and Rev. Burton and Norma Everist, East Dubuque, IL. ; 14 grandchildren, 27 great grandchildren, and 10 great great grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her husband Roy, an infant daughter, Harriet Winona Everist ; three grandsons , Sidney Le Roy Everist, Guy Carroll Everist and Emmett Kenneth Crowder, Jr. , two great granddaughters, Jennifer Joy Cooper and Don and Dee Harder's baby girl.

Its Humble Pie time I hear that the rules say that to write in Capitals is considered to be shouting. Sorry to all listers and list owners I did not realise until it has just been pointed out Bob percey

The article William Gifford of Sandwich, Ma (d 1687) by Almon E Danneils and Maclean W. Maclean was published in the New England Historica And Genealogical Register beginning in Vol 128 # 4 Oct 1974 and continuing into 1978. I have the article through Oct 1977. I will be happy to share information from the article. What I need is the rest of the article beginning in Jan 1978 on. When I go to SLC in May I will copy the rest. But in the mean time, I am researching Jeremiah Gifford and his daughter Elizabeth b 1769 . He appears with his brothers Henry, Ellihu, and Obadiah in the 1800 Census for Berne and Rensselaer Albany County New York, having, it appears, migrated from Dutchess County. They is also listed in the 1790 Dutchess Co Ny. Census. It is assumed by preponderance of evidence, she married John Furman b Oct 1766. If interested I can elaborate. I am trying to connect Elizabeth to the New England Gifford line, and I would like prove her marriage also . Marita

Karen, I descend from Robert also. No one is sure who William's first wife was. There is speculation. You may want to see if you can obtain a copy of The New England Historical and Genealogical Register Vol CXXVIII October 1974. There is an article in there on William of Sandwich that I found somewhat helpful. There is a continuing article but havent had a chance to get back to the Kansas Historical Society to get it. Happy hunting George williamb wrote: > Karen > > My Robert Gifford was the son of William Gifford,born in England, died in > 1687, and who was in Sandwich in 1650. Robert was born in 1656 and thus was > probably born in Sandwich. I do not know the name of William Gifford's > first wife, Robert's mother, but I would truly like to know it. Do you > think this might be in the Sandwich VR you so kindly offered to search? > > Many thanks > > William Hinshaw > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sullivan, K. MRS EECS <dk5793@exmail.usma.army.mil> > To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:08 AM > Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Will Lookup Giffords in Sandwich, MA > > >I'm working my way through the VR of Sandwich, MA, during my breaks and > >lunch hour here at work. This is an amazing set of books (2 vols) with no > >only births, deaths, and marriages, but also baptisms, gravestones, and > >family Bible records. There are a lot of Giffords listed, and I would be > >happy to do lookups. But please, send me as much information as possible > >including names and dates. I can't do a lookup for "everything you can > find > >about the Giffords." > > > >Karen Sullivan, Computer Specialist > >Dept of Elec Engr & Computer Science > >US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996 > >914-938-3127 > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >"Democracy is the worst system devised by the > >wit of man, except for all the others." > > --- Winston Churchill > >

There is only one record for Robert Gifford -- in Vol. II, p. 1368, Sandwich Quaker Records in Sandwich Meetinghouse. It says, "Robert Gifford m. 1680 Sarah Wing" In Vol. I, p. 43, there is the birth of Christopher Gifford to William Gifford July 1658, but it does not mention the mother's name. This is the only record of the birth of a child to William Gifford that fits the time frame you mentioned. Karen Sullivan ALDEN and KINGSLEY Listowner Visit Alden Kindred of America at http://www.alden.org/ ------ Work like you don't need the money, love like you've never been hurt, and dance like no one's watching. -----Original Message----- From: williamb [SMTP:williamb@acceleration.net] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 1999 9:05 PM To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Will Lookup Giffords in Sandwich, MA Karen My Robert Gifford was the son of William Gifford,born in England, died in 1687, and who was in Sandwich in 1650. Robert was born in 1656 and thus was probably born in Sandwich. I do not know the name of William Gifford's first wife, Robert's mother, but I would truly like to know it. Do you think this might be in the Sandwich VR you so kindly offered to search? Many thanks William Hinshaw -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, K. MRS EECS <dk5793@exmail.usma.army.mil> To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Will Lookup Giffords in Sandwich, MA >I'm working my way through the VR of Sandwich, MA, during my breaks and >lunch hour here at work. This is an amazing set of books (2 vols) with no >only births, deaths, and marriages, but also baptisms, gravestones, and >family Bible records. There are a lot of Giffords listed, and I would be >happy to do lookups. But please, send me as much information as possible >including names and dates. I can't do a lookup for "everything you can find >about the Giffords." > >Karen Sullivan, Computer Specialist >Dept of Elec Engr & Computer Science >US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996 >914-938-3127 >------------------------------------------------------------------ >"Democracy is the worst system devised by the >wit of man, except for all the others." > --- Winston Churchill >

Karen My Robert Gifford was the son of William Gifford,born in England, died in 1687, and who was in Sandwich in 1650. Robert was born in 1656 and thus was probably born in Sandwich. I do not know the name of William Gifford's first wife, Robert's mother, but I would truly like to know it. Do you think this might be in the Sandwich VR you so kindly offered to search? Many thanks William Hinshaw -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, K. MRS EECS <dk5793@exmail.usma.army.mil> To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 11:08 AM Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Will Lookup Giffords in Sandwich, MA >I'm working my way through the VR of Sandwich, MA, during my breaks and >lunch hour here at work. This is an amazing set of books (2 vols) with no >only births, deaths, and marriages, but also baptisms, gravestones, and >family Bible records. There are a lot of Giffords listed, and I would be >happy to do lookups. But please, send me as much information as possible >including names and dates. I can't do a lookup for "everything you can find >about the Giffords." > >Karen Sullivan, Computer Specialist >Dept of Elec Engr & Computer Science >US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996 >914-938-3127 >------------------------------------------------------------------ >"Democracy is the worst system devised by the >wit of man, except for all the others." > --- Winston Churchill >

Betty, Are your Giffords from County Cork, Ireland by any chance? My great grandmother was Bridget Gifford who married Michael Morrison. They lived in Ballylusky, Co. Cork. Thanks. Kathy Betty Hopperstad wrote: > > Hello, > I am seeking any information regarding Joseph Gifford, b. 1801, > Connecticut or PA, d. 07 Jan. 1885; m. Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford, > b.1805, Conn. or Nova Scotia; d.14 Feb, 1899; children of this marriage > are: > Deborah A. > Adelene > Salinda > Elizabeth > Malenda A. > Mary > James > David > Albert > I am descended from Joseph Gifford and Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford > through their daughter Deborah A. If any of the above names are known to > you please respond. Thank you. > Betty Hopperstad > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Kathy, I don't know where my Giffords are from. All that I know is in my message, other than Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford may have been Pennsylvania Dutch. I am completely stuck at this generation for Joseph Gifford. >From: Kathy McClung <rmcclung@sprintmail.com> >Reply-To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Joseph and Lydia Gifford family >Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:03:32 -0500 > >Betty, Are your Giffords from County Cork, Ireland by any chance? My >great grandmother was Bridget Gifford who married Michael Morrison. >They lived in Ballylusky, Co. Cork. Thanks. Kathy > >Betty Hopperstad wrote: >> >> Hello, >> I am seeking any information regarding Joseph Gifford, b. 1801, >> Connecticut or PA, d. 07 Jan. 1885; m. Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford, >> b.1805, Conn. or Nova Scotia; d.14 Feb, 1899; children of this marriage >> are: >> Deborah A. >> Adelene >> Salinda >> Elizabeth >> Malenda A. >> Mary >> James >> David >> Albert >> I am descended from Joseph Gifford and Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford >> through their daughter Deborah A. If any of the above names are known to >> you please respond. Thank you. >> Betty Hopperstad >> >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hello, I am seeking any information regarding Joseph Gifford, b. 1801, Connecticut or PA, d. 07 Jan. 1885; m. Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford, b.1805, Conn. or Nova Scotia; d.14 Feb, 1899; children of this marriage are: Deborah A. Adelene Salinda Elizabeth Malenda A. Mary James David Albert I am descended from Joseph Gifford and Lydia Sweet Hickox Gifford through their daughter Deborah A. If any of the above names are known to you please respond. Thank you. Betty Hopperstad Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Hi, Im looking for information on an Alexander Gifford born abt 1775.He marries a Mary Johnson around 1805. Im sorry I dont have more information on him, but hopefully that will be enough to work with. I know he died in Baltimore, but his place of birth and marriage is unknown at this time. His father may be Joseph Gifford. Thank you for your efforts. Michael Sullivan, K. MRS EECS wrote: > I'm working my way through the VR of Sandwich, MA, during my breaks and > lunch hour here at work. This is an amazing set of books (2 vols) with no > only births, deaths, and marriages, but also baptisms, gravestones, and > family Bible records. There are a lot of Giffords listed, and I would be > happy to do lookups. But please, send me as much information as possible > including names and dates. I can't do a lookup for "everything you can find > about the Giffords." > > Karen Sullivan, Computer Specialist > Dept of Elec Engr & Computer Science > US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996 > 914-938-3127 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > "Democracy is the worst system devised by the > wit of man, except for all the others." > --- Winston Churchill

Hi Karen, If you get a chance to look in the two books for the following people Hannah S. Gifford b. abt 18 Aug 1837 to James Harvey Gifford and Lydia Tibbets. Hannah married on 3 March 1837 Humphrey H. Hitt. All this happened in Westport, MA, only a couple or three generations off of the Giffords leaving Sandwich. Perhaps someone finally has their lineage. Thank you - Rick Arruda Attleboro, MA

I'm working my way through the VR of Sandwich, MA, during my breaks and lunch hour here at work. This is an amazing set of books (2 vols) with no only births, deaths, and marriages, but also baptisms, gravestones, and family Bible records. There are a lot of Giffords listed, and I would be happy to do lookups. But please, send me as much information as possible including names and dates. I can't do a lookup for "everything you can find about the Giffords." Karen Sullivan, Computer Specialist Dept of Elec Engr & Computer Science US Military Academy, West Point, NY 10996 914-938-3127 ------------------------------------------------------------------ "Democracy is the worst system devised by the wit of man, except for all the others." --- Winston Churchill

GIFFORD: Please drop me from your distribution list. Gafford@IBM.NET george drennon sr wrote: > Grinnell is about 20 or 30 miles south of Marshalltown Ia. Its in Marshall > County I think. My ggrandfather Charles T. Gifford was from Just north of > there in Grundy County.. > > Gordon R. Walk wrote: > > > I have no idea where Grinnel is, or even if I have it spelled > > corectly. > > The reason I was asking is, I know of a William Gifford whom > > disappears from records that had a sister that moved to this area . He > > would be about the correct age to be Alfreds father and this family was > > noted as being close even for generations . > > William was from Canada , so I was wondering if this direction was > > worth following . Since it is a distance off of the main tree , I am not > > pursuing it too hardily. > > Gordon Walk > > > > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:39:05 EST PMulder749@aol.com writes: > > >In a message dated 03/01/99 10:18:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, "Gordon > > >R. > > >Walk" <walk.inn@juno.com> writes: > > > > > ><< Was Alfred , by some chance , born in Grinnel IA ? >> > > > > > >No clue, I do know he was born in Iowa. My Grandpa West (Alfred's son > > >in law) > > >gave the info on his death certificate. What county is Grinnel in? > > > > > >Patty Mulder > > >PMulder749@aol.com > > >http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html > > >Patty's Most Wanted! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Grinnell is about 20 or 30 miles south of Marshalltown Ia. Its in Marshall County I think. My ggrandfather Charles T. Gifford was from Just north of there in Grundy County.. Gordon R. Walk wrote: > I have no idea where Grinnel is, or even if I have it spelled > corectly. > The reason I was asking is, I know of a William Gifford whom > disappears from records that had a sister that moved to this area . He > would be about the correct age to be Alfreds father and this family was > noted as being close even for generations . > William was from Canada , so I was wondering if this direction was > worth following . Since it is a distance off of the main tree , I am not > pursuing it too hardily. > Gordon Walk > > On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:39:05 EST PMulder749@aol.com writes: > >In a message dated 03/01/99 10:18:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, "Gordon > >R. > >Walk" <walk.inn@juno.com> writes: > > > ><< Was Alfred , by some chance , born in Grinnel IA ? >> > > > >No clue, I do know he was born in Iowa. My Grandpa West (Alfred's son > >in law) > >gave the info on his death certificate. What county is Grinnel in? > > > >Patty Mulder > >PMulder749@aol.com > >http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html > >Patty's Most Wanted! > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

I have no idea where Grinnel is, or even if I have it spelled corectly. The reason I was asking is, I know of a William Gifford whom disappears from records that had a sister that moved to this area . He would be about the correct age to be Alfreds father and this family was noted as being close even for generations . William was from Canada , so I was wondering if this direction was worth following . Since it is a distance off of the main tree , I am not pursuing it too hardily. Gordon Walk On Tue, 2 Mar 1999 02:39:05 EST PMulder749@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 03/01/99 10:18:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, "Gordon >R. >Walk" <walk.inn@juno.com> writes: > ><< Was Alfred , by some chance , born in Grinnel IA ? >> > >No clue, I do know he was born in Iowa. My Grandpa West (Alfred's son >in law) >gave the info on his death certificate. What county is Grinnel in? > >Patty Mulder >PMulder749@aol.com >http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html >Patty's Most Wanted! > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

In a message dated 03/01/99 10:18:54 PM Pacific Standard Time, "Gordon R. Walk" <walk.inn@juno.com> writes: << Was Alfred , by some chance , born in Grinnel IA ? >> No clue, I do know he was born in Iowa. My Grandpa West (Alfred's son in law) gave the info on his death certificate. What county is Grinnel in? Patty Mulder PMulder749@aol.com http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html Patty's Most Wanted!

Was Alfred , by some chance , born in Grinnel IA ? Gordon Walk On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 17:11:30 EST PMulder749@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 03/01/99 9:48:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, >STAHL143@aol.com >writes: > ><< Patty...could you list your lineage? Distant cousins in my Gifford >line >are > always claiming that we are related to Frank Gifford, too. Maybe we >have a > connection - >> > >Okay, this may be a little confusing, but here goes. >Margaret Wagoner b. 1841 IL m. (1)Mr. Gifford, b. in Canada >Alfred Daniel Gifford, b. 1861 in IA, d. 1918 in Nevada >Frank L. Gifford, b. 1862 in IA or CA? > >Margaret m. (2) Mr. Nelson >Clarence Nelson, b. 1870 in Penn Valley, CA, d. 1924 in Bakersfield, >CA >William Fernando Nelson, b. in CA > >Alfred Daniel Gifford m. Fannie Davis b. 1867 (does anybody know who >Fannie's >parents were?) >Ethel Estella Gifford, b. 1887 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1962 in Chico, >CA >Carrie Blanche Gifford, b. 1889 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1965 in Chico, >CA >Charles Alfred Gifford, b. 1891 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1918 in >Bonniers, >France >Roy Lorraine Gifford, b. 1892 in Bakersfield, CA, d. 1947 in >Sacramento, CA > >Frank L. Gifford is believed to be the grandfather of Frank Gifford, >the >football player. > >Carrie Blanche Gifford is my Dad's mother, my Grandma. My Grandma >always said >the Giffords originally came from Ireland. I'm working on the Frank L. >Gifford >line for info as to his and Alfred's father. Alfred had a stroke and >died at >age 57. Frank L. kept a saloon in Bakersfield, CA and I'm hoping to >find some >more info that way. Frank Gifford, the football player was born in >Bakersfield, CA in 1925. > >Let me know if anybody finds a link to this info! I have the Alfred >Gifford >family Bible. > >Patty Mulder >PMulder749@aol.com >http://members.aol.com/PMulder749/wanted.html >Patty's Most Wanted! > > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

Yes, I'd like to see that list, also. My father has always claimed to be a cousin also. -----Original Message----- From: STAHL143@aol.com [SMTP:STAHL143@aol.com] Sent: Monday, March 01, 1999 7:37 AM To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Re: Frank Gifford Patty...could you list your lineage? Distant cousins in my Gifford line are always claiming that we are related to Frank Gifford, too. Maybe we have a connection - Thanks- Karin Stahl