Hi- I ordered a social security application for my uncle Lester GIFFORD. But, the one they sent me is not MY uncle. Is he yours? Will be happy to forward to right family. This says he was born Sept. 23, 1891 in Oxford, Chanango County, New York. His father was Ward B. GIFFORD, and his mother was Jennie L. TURNER. Lynn bldll@tu.infi.net

thanks for the info anyway. Betsy

Yes, I am familiar with all of Bernard's siblings. Bernard was my dad. He was the youngest of 9 children, but there were no Silas'. Sorry ----- Original Message ----- From: <BFB1957@aol.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Gifford, Edumnd and Livonia - Oroville or Chico, CA-1800's > Karan: Do you know of any of Bernards siblings? Have you ever heard of a > Silas Gifford. He was born in Ohio, don't know what county. Thanks, Betsy >

I am researching the line of Joseph GIFFORD, b. Apr. 24, 1833, in Uniontown, PA. Perhaps they are related? Joe Gifford

Hi Thanks for responding. I am just starting to research the Gifford name. I have the name of my great great grandmother, Margaretta Gifford who was born abt 1835-1840 in PA. Perhaps has cherokee indian heritage??? Do you have any idea if the New York or Maine Giffords have any connection to the Giffords in PA? I heard from one lady who has Gifford connections that were cherokee indians too and knows of a Margaretta. She will send me the info. Judy -----Original Message----- From: William White <bldll@tu.infi.net> To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, August 15, 1999 9:23 AM Subject: [GIFFORD] Peter Napoleon GIFFORD- Maine/Kings Co. NY >HI- >I am looking for any information on Peter Napoleon GIFFORD (born 1868 >in Maine). He is listed on the 1900 Census Index in Kings County, New >York. His wife was Augusta M., and two sons Nelson (born 1894), and >Sylvester (born 1896). Any information desired and appreciated. >Lynn >Jax. FL > > ________________________________________________________ NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

HI- I am looking for any information on Peter Napoleon GIFFORD (born 1868 in Maine). He is listed on the 1900 Census Index in Kings County, New York. His wife was Augusta M., and two sons Nelson (born 1894), and Sylvester (born 1896). Any information desired and appreciated. Lynn Jax. FL

Hi All, I m looking for someone with a connection to a William B. Gifford that is in Kings Co. New York in the 1790 and 1800 census. Michael

Karan: Go to www.familysearch.org type in John Gifford with spouse Phebe and see if any of those are yours Betsy

Karan: Do you know of any of Bernards siblings? Have you ever heard of a Silas Gifford. He was born in Ohio, don't know what county. Thanks, Betsy

Hello, This is Ramona Gifford Mc Clean, Could Pauline's husband have been Lester or Leslie either name ,he was called Les or Charlie or Charles ? Born some where around Averll Pond ,I'm not sure of the spelling, also did the Shipman's have a daughter - Judith ? Married a Traveling Preacher? Thanks, Mona ----- Original Message ----- From: ARMSTRONG,DAVE <darmstrong1@neo.rr.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 07, 1999 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Phebe Gifford, b. 1861 Dartmouth, MA > Interesting! I have a great grandmother, Phebe Gifford married to John > Gifford. But that seems to be where all similarities end. My Phebe was the > daughter of Mathias Shipman. John, according to Bible records, was born in > Vermont to Pauline- don't know her husband's first name. > Karan Gifford Armstrong > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rick and Carol Rogers <rogers5@innova.net> > To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:49 PM > Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Phebe Gifford, b. 1861 Dartmouth, MA > > > > Does anyone know the Gifford grandparents of Phebe T. Gifford, b. 1861 > > Dartmouth, MA. Parents: John A. Gifford, b. Dartmouth and Betsey Carr, > > b. Tiverton, RI? Phebe married Alonzo Mosher in New Bedford in 1876. > > She died 1882 in Fairhaven, MA. > > Having a hard time sorting out all the John A. Gifford's. > > Thanks for any help or leads. > > Carol Rogers > > rogers5@innova.net > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ramona McClean <ramonam@potlatch.com> > > To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:15 AM > > Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK/ Susan Kudspeth, Micheal > > Wagner, Chris & Kim & Et Al > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Alan Norris <AlanNorris@access.net.au> > > >To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > > >Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:30 AM > > >Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK > > > > > > > > >> I am interested in any information about my Grandfather William > > Gifford > > >and > > >> his father also William Gifford who both lived in Romsey. I think > > that my > > >> Great Grandfather may have had something to do with setting up a > > police > > >> force in Romsey. Contact me on anorris@access.net.au > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> Alan Norris > > >> > > >> Melbourne Australia > > >> >>>>>I have > > >Lou Gerhig's so its much easier to type this up once & send it to > > everyone > > >that wants it rather than trying to send it to you seperatly,sorry, > > Ramona > > >Gifford > > >Mc Clean > > > > > > GENEALOGY > > > OF THE > > > GIFFORD > > > FAMILY > > > Down to the time of their emigration to America in > > > 1630 > > >The Family of Giffords are of High Antiguity, and were Seated at > > Honfleur, > > >in Normandy, three centuries before the conquest of England by Duke > > William. > > > > > > At the Battle of Hastings,in 1066, Sire Runddolph de > > >Gifford was one of theConqueror's standard beaters, and was > > rewardedby him > > >with land in Somereshire and Chesire wich were created into a > > Barony, from > > >wich his descendents had summons to Parliament. > > > > > > In the reign of Henry11, Sir Peter Gifford married > > >Alice, Daughter and Heirress of Sir Grey de Corbuchin, with whom he > > had the > > >Lordship of > > >Chillington, in Chesire, wich was the seat of the Dukes of Buckingham > > of > > >this family. > > > > > > Stephen Gifford was one of the Barons accompanying Richard Coeur > > de > > >Lion, to the Holy > > >Lands, and was killed in the siege of Jerusalem;and his son,Sir > > Stephen was > > >wounded there. > > > > > > This family enjoyed great distinctions in the English Courts for > > several > > >centuries, and no less than five peerages existed in it at one time. > > > > > > Baron George Gifford was made Earl of Buckingham by Henery V, But > > >joining the house of York against that of Lancaster, and being one of > > the > > >prime favorites of King Edward V,he was created > > >Duke ofBuckingham And married the Princess Maud Plantaganet, the > > King's > > >cousin. > > > > > > His Son, George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham, > > >Was one of the favorites of the Duke of Gloucester - > > >afterwards King Richard 111, and being detected in the act of > > corresponding > > >with the Earl of Richmond(Henry 11)he was attainted of High Treason > > and > > >beheaded by Richard's Orders. > > > > > > The Duke of Buckingham left several infant children, but as > > theyas they > > >had been deprived of their lands and titles, that mercenary King V11 > > found > > >it more convenient not to restore them, and Humphrey Stafford, a > > very > > >powerful noble, having married the eldest daughter of Henry,and was > > created > > >by him, the Duke of Buckingham. > > > > > > The Staffords followed the fate of their maternal ancestor, and > > the > > >Grandson of Humphrey was beheaded and his family deprived of their > > estates > > > > > > Of the Sons ofthe last George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham,George > > >continued the first line and continually solicited the Crown and > > Parliament > > >for > > >his restoration; but from the opposition of his powerful brother- > > in - law > > >(Stafford ), was always > > >defeated. > > > > > > The Giffords, in the riegn of King Henry V111 and > > >Queens Mary and Elizabeth ineffectually put their claims before the > > English > > >Parliament, never, however being able to attain a judgement. > > > > > > In the reign of James 1, Sir Ambrose Gifford > > >claimed before the House of Peers to be Duke of > > >Bellingham, and in the second reign of Charles 1 > > >his claim was disallowed on account of his poverty. > > >(See Dugale's Extracts and Baronies.) > > > > > > Walter Gifford, the son of Sir Ambrose, emigrated from England > > to > > >Massachusetts Bay in > > >1630, and was the originator of the American branch of the ancient > > family. > > > > > > Of the descendants of this family who have been noted, are the > > >celebrated critic, Sir John Gifford and Lord Gifford, the master of > > the > > >Rolls, who prosecuted, while English Attorny General, the wife of > > George the > > >1V(Queen Caroline) upon a charge of high crimes and misdemeannnors. > > > > > > Coat of Arms > > >Gules,three lionspassent; argent; crest, and arm couped above the > > >elbow;vested or, charged with two barswavy azzure; cuffed white; > > holding in > > >the hand a stag's head-cabosed, gules. > > > > > > "Non Sine Numin" > > > > > >Explanation-- Gules - red; Argent- white; Cuped- > > >cut off; Vested- gold; Azure- Blue; Cabosed- with out the neck. > > > > > >Motto - " Nothing without the Divinity" > > > > > >Mediaa Research Bureau, Washington D. C. > > > > > >Gifford is of Norman Origin and means "Liberal > > >Gifter" Was written Giffart or Gifferd > > > > > >Love to All, Ramona "Mona"Gifford Mc Clean > > >Both my Mother's & Father's sodes of the family > > >had the messy habit of getting themselves seperated from their > > HEADS!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >

Interesting! I have a great grandmother, Phebe Gifford married to John Gifford. But that seems to be where all similarities end. My Phebe was the daughter of Mathias Shipman. John, according to Bible records, was born in Vermont to Pauline- don't know her husband's first name. Karan Gifford Armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick and Carol Rogers <rogers5@innova.net> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:49 PM Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Phebe Gifford, b. 1861 Dartmouth, MA > Does anyone know the Gifford grandparents of Phebe T. Gifford, b. 1861 > Dartmouth, MA. Parents: John A. Gifford, b. Dartmouth and Betsey Carr, > b. Tiverton, RI? Phebe married Alonzo Mosher in New Bedford in 1876. > She died 1882 in Fairhaven, MA. > Having a hard time sorting out all the John A. Gifford's. > Thanks for any help or leads. > Carol Rogers > rogers5@innova.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Ramona McClean <ramonam@potlatch.com> > To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK/ Susan Kudspeth, Micheal > Wagner, Chris & Kim & Et Al > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Alan Norris <AlanNorris@access.net.au> > >To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 3:30 AM > >Subject: [GIFFORD-L] Romsey Hampshire UK > > > > > >> I am interested in any information about my Grandfather William > Gifford > >and > >> his father also William Gifford who both lived in Romsey. I think > that my > >> Great Grandfather may have had something to do with setting up a > police > >> force in Romsey. Contact me on anorris@access.net.au > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Alan Norris > >> > >> Melbourne Australia > >> >>>>>I have > >Lou Gerhig's so its much easier to type this up once & send it to > everyone > >that wants it rather than trying to send it to you seperatly,sorry, > Ramona > >Gifford > >Mc Clean > > > > GENEALOGY > > OF THE > > GIFFORD > > FAMILY > > Down to the time of their emigration to America in > > 1630 > >The Family of Giffords are of High Antiguity, and were Seated at > Honfleur, > >in Normandy, three centuries before the conquest of England by Duke > William. > > > > At the Battle of Hastings,in 1066, Sire Runddolph de > >Gifford was one of theConqueror's standard beaters, and was > rewardedby him > >with land in Somereshire and Chesire wich were created into a > Barony, from > >wich his descendents had summons to Parliament. > > > > In the reign of Henry11, Sir Peter Gifford married > >Alice, Daughter and Heirress of Sir Grey de Corbuchin, with whom he > had the > >Lordship of > >Chillington, in Chesire, wich was the seat of the Dukes of Buckingham > of > >this family. > > > > Stephen Gifford was one of the Barons accompanying Richard Coeur > de > >Lion, to the Holy > >Lands, and was killed in the siege of Jerusalem;and his son,Sir > Stephen was > >wounded there. > > > > This family enjoyed great distinctions in the English Courts for > several > >centuries, and no less than five peerages existed in it at one time. > > > > Baron George Gifford was made Earl of Buckingham by Henery V, But > >joining the house of York against that of Lancaster, and being one of > the > >prime favorites of King Edward V,he was created > >Duke ofBuckingham And married the Princess Maud Plantaganet, the > King's > >cousin. > > > > His Son, George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham, > >Was one of the favorites of the Duke of Gloucester - > >afterwards King Richard 111, and being detected in the act of > corresponding > >with the Earl of Richmond(Henry 11)he was attainted of High Treason > and > >beheaded by Richard's Orders. > > > > The Duke of Buckingham left several infant children, but as > theyas they > >had been deprived of their lands and titles, that mercenary King V11 > found > >it more convenient not to restore them, and Humphrey Stafford, a > very > >powerful noble, having married the eldest daughter of Henry,and was > created > >by him, the Duke of Buckingham. > > > > The Staffords followed the fate of their maternal ancestor, and > the > >Grandson of Humphrey was beheaded and his family deprived of their > estates > > > > Of the Sons ofthe last George Gifford, Duke of Buckingham,George > >continued the first line and continually solicited the Crown and > Parliament > >for > >his restoration; but from the opposition of his powerful brother- > in - law > >(Stafford ), was always > >defeated. > > > > The Giffords, in the riegn of King Henry V111 and > >Queens Mary and Elizabeth ineffectually put their claims before the > English > >Parliament, never, however being able to attain a judgement. > > > > In the reign of James 1, Sir Ambrose Gifford > >claimed before the House of Peers to be Duke of > >Bellingham, and in the second reign of Charles 1 > >his claim was disallowed on account of his poverty. > >(See Dugale's Extracts and Baronies.) > > > > Walter Gifford, the son of Sir Ambrose, emigrated from England > to > >Massachusetts Bay in > >1630, and was the originator of the American branch of the ancient > family. > > > > Of the descendants of this family who have been noted, are the > >celebrated critic, Sir John Gifford and Lord Gifford, the master of > the > >Rolls, who prosecuted, while English Attorny General, the wife of > George the > >1V(Queen Caroline) upon a charge of high crimes and misdemeannnors. > > > > Coat of Arms > >Gules,three lionspassent; argent; crest, and arm couped above the > >elbow;vested or, charged with two barswavy azzure; cuffed white; > holding in > >the hand a stag's head-cabosed, gules. > > > > "Non Sine Numin" > > > >Explanation-- Gules - red; Argent- white; Cuped- > >cut off; Vested- gold; Azure- Blue; Cabosed- with out the neck. > > > >Motto - " Nothing without the Divinity" > > > >Mediaa Research Bureau, Washington D. C. > > > >Gifford is of Norman Origin and means "Liberal > >Gifter" Was written Giffart or Gifferd > > > >Love to All, Ramona "Mona"Gifford Mc Clean > >Both my Mother's & Father's sodes of the family > >had the messy habit of getting themselves seperated from their > HEADS!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >

I am a Gifford living in Uniontown, Ohio. My father, Bernard Gifford, was the son of Horace Gifford who came from Erie, Pa. Horace was the son of John & Phebe Gifford from New York. John originated in Vermont, but I have yet to find who his father was. His mother was Pauline. Karan Gifford Armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: <Spiritgrny@aol.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Gifford, Edumnd and Livonia - Oroville or Chico, CA- 1800's > Joan, > > Are any of your Giffords from KY or OH? I have Gifford connections there. > > Spirit >

Do you have dates ? Perl Gifford was best freinds with Horace Greeley and went to Greeley Colorado with Horace from Erie . There were a couple of children born in Colorado , I don't have there names . I guess Perl didn't have much luck and returned to Erie a couple of ears later . Gordon Walk On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:37:27 -0400 "ARMSTRONG,DAVE" <darmstrong1@neo.rr.com> writes: >I am a Gifford living in Uniontown, Ohio. My father, Bernard Gifford, >was >the son of Horace Gifford who came from Erie, Pa. Horace was the son >of >John & Phebe Gifford from New York. John originated in Vermont, but I >have >yet to find who his father was. His mother was Pauline. > >Karan Gifford Armstrong > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Spiritgrny@aol.com> >To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:17 PM >Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Gifford, Edumnd and Livonia - Oroville or >Chico, >CA- 1800's > > >> Joan, >> >> Are any of your Giffords from KY or OH? I have Gifford connections >there. >> >> Spirit >> > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hi everyone- I am looking for descendants of the following: Frederick Knapp Gifford, born Putnam County NY 6 March 1861 His brother William Elisha Gifford, born Dedham MA 23 Jan 1870. Those two are brothers of my grandfather Ralph Waldo Gifford. Van Rensselear Gifford, uncle of the above, born Putnam Co. 18 Nov 1837, removed to Minnesota. Any help much apreciated. Mary

OK. Thanks for checking for me. Betsy

Dear Betsy, No, no Scott Burdette or Silas, sorry, they must be the younger generations. I have mostly ones in early 1800 and late 1790. I will keep my eyes open tho and if I see them, will let you know. Spirit

Hi, Any information about the parents of William Gifford, born abt 1860, probably in or near Romsey. He may have had a brother called George who was born abt 1851. Thanks Alan Norris

Thank you Bob, The Giffords of Newton Lane are my ancestors. I am not sure about the others. Alan N ----- Original Message ----- From: <BOBPERCEY@aol.com> To: <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, 5 August 1999 6:42 Subject: [GIFFORD-L] (no subject) > 1881 Census > Dwelling: Banning St > Census Place: Romsey Extra, Hampshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341299 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1224 Folio 8 > Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > George GIFFORD M 30 M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Bricklayer > Ellen GIFFORD M 30 F Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Wife > Fred GIFFORD 13 M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > William F. GIFFORD 11 M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Occ: Scholar > Florence GIFFORD 2 F Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Daur > James GIFFORD 2 m M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > > > My Giffords come from Dorset and Wiltshire not far from yours > > Maybe further back they meet!!! > > Bob P > > Dwelling: Newton Lane > Census Place: Romsey Infra, Hampshire, England > Source: FHL Film 1341300 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1225 Folio 37 > Page 10 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > William GIFFORD M 21 M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Head > Occ: Bricklayer > Emily GIFFORD M 19 F Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Wife > William GIFFORD 2 M Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Son > Alice A. GIFFORD 12 m F Romsey, Hampshire, England > Rel: Daur >

Write to the MA Archives (see info. on MA GenWeb site) for Henry's birth certificate. They will probably be able to locate it. It will tell where he was born and his parents' names. Then you can narrow down your census search. Look for records on microfilm at your local LDS Family History Center. MA kept great records and you should have no trouble finding Henry and tracking down birth, marriage and death records for the family. Have you searched the LDS online? I found everything I needed about my Giffords from the above sources. -----Original Message----- From: Damguire@aol.com <Damguire@aol.com> To: GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com <GIFFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, August 04, 1999 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [GIFFORD-L] Henry Gifford, Carver MA >I am also looking for a Gifford in the southeastern/MA area: Henry A. >Gifford, b. 1861 and died 1956. He was married to Amy Etta ? (b. 1865 d. >1940) He had three children: Mary, Edna and James. Unfortunately, this is all >I have on Henry. I am writing (snail mail) around to various towns in MA >where he may have died. He does not show up on the Social Security Index. I >am also checking census records. I do not know where Henry was born. > >The problem is, this Gifford family probably did not approve of a marriage >(Henry's daughter, Edna, to my grandfather, Leroy Andrews). The Giffords >then had little to no contact with Edna's family, her children, etc. I am >searching for Henry in the traditional way, and online. > >Henry and Amy are buried in Lakenham Cemetery, which is in Carver, MA. I >found their grave site almost by accident, while looking for Leroy's resting >place. > >Anyone have any info in Henry A. Gifford? > >Thanks > >Diane Andrews McGuire

1881 Census Dwelling: Banning St Census Place: Romsey Extra, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341299 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1224 Folio 8 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace George GIFFORD M 30 M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayer Ellen GIFFORD M 30 F Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Wife Fred GIFFORD 13 M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William F. GIFFORD 11 M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Florence GIFFORD 2 F Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Daur James GIFFORD 2 m M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Son My Giffords come from Dorset and Wiltshire not far from yours Maybe further back they meet!!! Bob P Dwelling: Newton Lane Census Place: Romsey Infra, Hampshire, England Source: FHL Film 1341300 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 1225 Folio 37 Page 10 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William GIFFORD M 21 M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Head Occ: Bricklayer Emily GIFFORD M 19 F Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Wife William GIFFORD 2 M Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Son Alice A. GIFFORD 12 m F Romsey, Hampshire, England Rel: Daur