> Masugu, > > Thanks so much for your help.I already had most of this info. What I am in > need of is Max and Theresias (my great- great grandparents)marriage > record.I think they must have gotten married in NYC. In the 1860 NY census > I found Max listed as Max Harder, living with the Gebhardts, listed as a > bootmaker.Can't seem to find Theresia in the 1860 census.I am also in need > of birth records of the 3 oldest children, born in NY. Otto(Arthur Otto) > Harter March 17, 1859, may have been born out of wedlock. As I mentioned > Max was not listed with a family of his own in 1860. I have Otto's death > cert, and his birthdate is listed. > > Charles W Harter was born in 1862. I know he died in Canova, S.D. > > Mary Harter (my great grandmother) was born Mar 14, 1864. I have her d.c. > > Any direction in which to point me for the 3 births and the mariage > record? Am looking for anything while they were in NY.They were all in > Lena, Stephenson, IL by 1869. > > Thanks so much!!!!!!!!!! > Ramona Harter Wehinger P.S. Also looking for max's sisters Blandine Harter b. Dec 2, 1832 in Onsbach , Achern, Baden Germany. Died in USA. Don't know year of immigration. Anna Maria Harter, born April 24, 1841, Onsbach,Achern, Baden Germany. Died in USA. Immigration year 1857.Did not seem to find her with Max when he immigrated in 1857. Also, his brother Hermann Harter, born April 20, 1843 in Onsbach, Achern, Baden Germany.Immigration year 1866. Died USA. Max also had a brother Wilhelm, who settled in Freeport, Stephenson, IL. Have some info on him. A brother Bernhard Harter was the only child to stay in Germany. Thanks again for taking the time to help! I really appreciate anything from anyone!!!!If I can be of help let me know, I have a 1 year subscription to ancestry. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wayne J. Straight" <woichi01@comcast.net> > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:59 AM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] names aren't a name if not spelled right > > >> Hi Ramona; >> >> I took on your cause and found quite a bit of data. Hopefully some of it >> is new and of use to you. Cheers, Masugu >> >> New York Passenger Lists Record >> Name: Theresia Kalle >> Arrival Date: 9 Dec 1857 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >> Age: 22 >> Gender: Female >> Port of Departure: Le Havre, France >> Destination: United States of America >> Place of Origin: Baden >> Ship Name: Bazaar >> Port of Arrival: New York >> Line: 26 >> Microfilm Serial: M237 >> Microfilm Roll: 181 >> List Number: 1410 >> Port Arrival State: New York >> Port Arrival Country: United States >> Source Citation: Year: 1857; Arrival: NY , US; Microfilm serial: M237; >> Microfilm roll: 181; Line: 26; List #: 1410. >> >> New York Petitions for Naturalization Record >> Name: Maximilian Harter >> Naturalization Date: 17 May 1867 >> Address: 96 Gold St., NYC >> Former Nationality: German >> Title and Location of Court: Common Pleas Court, New York County >> Volume: 347 >> Record Number: 292 >> >> Illinois Statewide Marriage Index, 1763-1900 >> Groom Bride Date Vol/Page Lic # County >> HARTER, CHARLES LITCHER, KATIE 04/20/1891 /42 STEPHENSON >> HARTER, CHARLES BOGARD, LULE HETTIE 09/17/1884 1/94 1198 CLAY >> HARTER, CHARLES CRAVER, LYDIA ANN 05/02/1891 001/0157 00005877 MERCER >> HARTER, CHARLES E HACKETT, LILLIE O 12/31/1890 00F/0091 00000384 FULTON >> MULLER, GOTTFRIED HARTER, MARY 11/10/1890 2/20 3420 TAZEWELL >> RAESE, WILHELM HARTER, MARY 10/02/1893 / 00207894 COOK >> WILLEY, ALEX BURTON HARTER, MARY FRANCES 02/17/1895 001/0196 00006376 >> MERCER >> DUNCAN, THOMAS Y3 HARTER, MARY EMMA Y4 04/04/1910 3/156 1237 CLINTON >> HARTER, FRANK SCHURER, CORA 01/20/1885 / 00089040 COOK >> HARTER, FRANK P SHANNON, MARY 09/08/1897 ? 266990 COOK >> >> Illinois Statewide Death Index, Pre-1916, >> Name of Deceased Date City Age Sex Vol. Page County >> HARTER, THERESIA 06/21/1912 LENA 76 YR F E 9484 STEPHENSON >> HARTER, WILLIAM MORITZ 08/22/1884 FREEPORT 9 YR M A 1335 STEPHENSON >> HARTER, WM FRANKLIN 08/05/1880 KENT TWP 7 YR M A 700 STEPHENSON >> >> Illinois Statewide Death Index, 1916-1950 >> Name of Deceased Sex/Race/Age Cert# Death-Date County City Date-Filed >> HARTER, MAX MILLER M/W/UNK 0035359 1920-09-11 STEPHENSON LENA 20-09-13 >> HARTER, MARY F/W/UNK 0037915 1916-01-21 STEPHENSON LENA 16-01-22 >> HARTER, FRED M/W/UNK 0012975 1946-03-10 STEPHENSON LENA TOWN - - >> HARTER, OTTO M/W/Y-76 0004217 1936-01-12 STEPHENSON FREEPORT - - >> HARTER, CHARLES N/S/UNK 0000099 1937-05-31 LA SALLE WAUKEGAN - - >> HARTER, CHARLES M/W/UNK 0000020 1943-02-17 CLAY STANFORD TWP - - >> HARTER, CHARLES BISHOP M/W/UNK 6033876 1920-12-21 COOK CHICAGO 20-12-23 >> HARTER, CHARLES E. N/S/UNK 0000114 1938-06-25 TAZEWELL - - >> HARTER, CHARLES E. M/W/UNK 0032229 1945-08-13 SANGAMON SPRINGFIELD - - >> HARTER, CHARLES M. M/W/UNK 0008477 1948-02-28 SANGAMON SPRINGFIELD - - >> HARTER, CHAS M/W/UNK 6003349 1921-02-05 COOK CHICAGO 21-02-07 >> HARTER, FRED M/W/UNK 0031971 1944-11-18 COOK CHICAGO - - >> HARTER, FRED C. M/W/UNK 3490062 1931-03-28 LAKE WAUKEGAN 31-03-31 >> HARTER, MARIA E. N/S/UNK 0001670 1939-01-16 UNKNOWN - - >> HARTER, MARIA JANE F/W/UNK 0740076 1932-07-22 PIATT BEMENT 32-07-24 >> HARTER, MARY F/W/UNK 0042582 1918-01-17 PIKE PITTSFIELD 18-01-17 >> HARTER, MARY CATHERINE F/W/UNK 0004460 1921-02-05 KANE MAPLE PARK >> 21-02-19 >> HARTER, MARY E. F/W/UNK 2920086 1923-02-23 VERMILION DANVILLE 23-02-23 >> HARTER, MARY E. F/W/UNK 0018202 1944-05-20 ADAMS QUINCY - - >> HARTER, MARY H. F/W/UNK 0022931 1947-05-04 VERMILION DANVILLE - - >> HARTER, MARY L. F/W/UNK 0011850 1945-03-09 WINNEBAGO ROCKFORD - - >> HARTER, MARY S. F/W/UNK 0000122 1943-05-17 MCLEAN LE ROY - - >> HARTER, WILLIAM DAW M/W/UNK 0013848 1918-12-30 DE WITT FARMER CITY >> 19-01-01 >> HARTER, WILLIAM EARL M/W/UNK 0340135 1923-04-13 HANCOCK HAMILTON 23-04-13 >> HARTER, WILLIAM J. M/W/UNK 2920256 1934-05-24 VERMILION DANVILLE 34-05-26 >> HARTER, WILLIAM KENTON M/W/UNK 0660080 1930-07-15 MERCER ELIZA TWP >> 30-07-16 >> HARTER, WILLIAM R. M/W/UNK 2290080 1932-07-04 FULTON CANTON 32-07-06 >> HARTER, WILLIAM V. M/W/UNK 0014829 1919-03-28 VERMILION DANVILLE 19-03-29 >> HARTER, KATHERINE F/W/UNK 0025867 1918-04-29 LAKE WAUKEGAN 18-05-01 >> HARTER, KATHERINE B. F/W/UNK 0000261 1943-07-22 COOK BERWYN - - >> HARTER, JOSEPHINE F/W/UNK 0000107 1940-04-25 FAYETTE VANDALIA - - >> >> 1860 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: W Harter (could be M vice W) >> Age in 1860: 22 >> Birth Year: abt 1838 >> BirthPlace: Germany >> Home in 1860: Freeport, Stephenson, Illinois >> Gender: Male >> Post Office: Freeport >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Hiram Bright 38 >> H A Bright 28 >> T C Bright 3 >> Aldene Bright 5.12 >> W Harter 22 >> C Swarts 19 >> Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Freeport, Stephenson, IL; >> Roll: M653_230; Page: 0; Image: 102. >> >> 1870 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Max Harter >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834 >> Age in 1870: 36 >> BirthPlace: BAD; DEU >> Home in 1870: Lena, Stephenson, Illinois >> Race: White >> Gender: Male >> Post Office: Lena >> Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Lena, Stephenson, IL; Roll: >> M593_275; Page: 377; Image: 755. >> >> 1880 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Maxmillian Harter >> Home in 1880: Lena, Stephenson, Illinois >> Age: 44 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 >> BirthPlace: Germany >> Relation to head-of-household: Self >> Spouses's Name: Teressa >> Father's birthplace: GER >> Mother's birthplace: GER >> Occupation: Shoemaker >> Marital status: Married >> Race: White >> Gender: Male >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Maxmillian Harter 44 >> Teressa Harter 43 >> Arthur Harter 20 >> Charles Harter 18 >> Mary Harter 15 >> Teressa Harter 11 >> Willie Harter 8 >> Fred'k. Harter 4 >> Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Lena, Stephenson, IL; Roll: >> T9_253; Family History Film: 1254253; Page: 326.2000; ED: 189; Image: >> 0254. >> >> 1900 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Max Harter >> Home in 1900: West Point, Stephenson, Illinois >> Age: 64 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 >> BirthPlace: Germany >> Relationship to head-of-house: Head >> Spouses's Name: Theresie >> Race: White >> Immigration year: 1858 >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Max Harter 64 >> Theresie Harter 64 >> Otto A Harter 40 >> Mary A Harter 36 >> William A Harter 26 >> Fred H Harter 24 >> Josie M Harter 13 >> Winfred Harter 6 >> Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: West Point, Stephenson, IL; >> Roll: T623 346; Page: 3B; ED: 110. >> >> 1910 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Max Harter >> Age in 1910: 75 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >> BirthPlace: Germany >> Relation to Head of House: Head >> Father's Birth Place: Germany >> Mother's Birth Place: Germany >> Spouses's Name: Racy >> Home in 1910: West Point, Stephenson, Illinois >> Marital Status: Married >> Race: White >> Gender: Male >> Year of Immigration: 1857 >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Max Harter 75 >> Racy Harter 74 >> Mary Harter 40 >> Otto Harter 46 >> Fred Harter 32 >> Winnie Harter 16 >> Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: West Point, Stephenson, IL; >> Roll: T624_327; Page: 8A; ED: 118; Image: 1182. >> >> 1920 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Max Harter [May Harter] >> Home in 1920: Lena, Stephenson, Illinois >> Age: 85 years >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 >> BirthPlace: Germany >> Relation to Head of House: Head >> Father's Birth Place: Germany >> Mother's Birth Place: Germany >> Marital status: Widow >> Race: White >> Sex: Male >> Home owned: Own >> Year of immigration: 1850 >> Able to read: Yes >> Able to Write: Yes >> Image: 1109 >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Max Harter 85 >> Otto Harter 51 >> Fred Harter 40 >> Josephine Claucy 11 >> Lizzie Robine 38 >> Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Lena, Stephenson, IL; Roll: >> T625_397; Page: 4B; ED: 145; Image: 1109. >> >> 1920 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Winnifred F Harter [Winfred Harter] >> Home in 1920: Galena Ward 2, Jo Daviess, Illinois >> Age: 25 years >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 >> BirthPlace: Illinois >> Relation to Head of House: Head >> Spouses's Name: Angeline E >> Father's Birth Place: Illinois >> Mother's Birth Place: Illinois >> Marital status: Married >> Race: White >> Sex: Male >> Home owned: Own >> Able to read: Yes >> Able to Write: Yes >> Image: 498 >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Winnifred F Harter 25 >> Angeline E Harter 25 >> Lucille Harter 1 2/12 >> Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Galena Ward 2, Jo Daviess, IL; >> Roll: T625_373; Page: 9B; ED: 42; Image: 498. >> >> 1930 United States Federal Census Record >> Name: Otto Harter >> Home in 1930: Lena, Stephenson, Illinois >> Age: 70 >> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 >> Relation to Head of House: Brother >> Household Members: >> Name Age >> Fred H Harter 52 >> Otto Harter 70 >> Elizabeth Robbins 49 >> Viola Bollin 23 >> Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Lena, Stephenson, IL; Roll: >> 560; Page: 4B; ED: 40; Image: 1043.0. >> >> World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918, Sep 12 1918 >> Name: Fred Herman Harter >> City: Lena >> County: Stephenson >> State: Illinois >> Birth Date: 18 Aug 1874 >> Race: White >> Roll: 1642743 >> DraftBoard: 0 >> Age: 44 >> Occupation: Laborer >> Nearest Relative: Max Harter, Lena, Stephenson, IL >> Height/Build: Medium/Medium >> Color of Eyes/Hair: -/- >> Source Citation: Registration Location: Stephenson County, IL; Roll: >> 1642743; Draft Board: 0. >> >> World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918, June 5 1915 >> Name: Francis Winfred Harter >> City: Lena >> County: Stephenson >> State: Illinois >> BirthPlace: Illinois; United States of America >> Birth Date: 28 Feb 1894 >> Race: Caucasian >> Roll: 1642743 >> DraftBoard: 0 >> Age: 23 >> Occupation: Laborer, ?910? Lilly, Lena, IL >> Nearest Relative: -- >> Height/Build: Tall/Slender >> Color of Eyes/Hair: Brown/Brown >> Source Citation: Registration Location: Stephenson County, IL; Roll: >> 1642743; Draft Board: 0. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 >> > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006 >