I am looking right now for Siddessen,we know family ancestors have lived there for many years, ..DOHMANN & DOMANN..I have been in this researching my family off and on for 53 years,my grandfather to the 28th generation was a Judge in the town of Hoxter,both my grd father & grt grdfather were in the Prussian Armies,1870's & 1848 I have the original Army papers,here at my home plus their photo's. I am trying to find the town where ..Hubert Johan Dohmann b.25 Jul 1856-57,so far Siddessen is our best bet. Johann Dohmann/ USA

Hello Johann, I inadvertently dropped your reply into my junk box and found it by accident as I was getting ready to empty it. In your last mail you said you wondered as to what happened to Hubert Dohmann. Well rest assured, he settled in West Point, Lee Co., Iowa and I would guess that he died there as he and wife Anna are still listed on the 1930 census at ages 73 and 69 resp. in the same house on Madison Street. Since you may not be a subscriber to Ancestry.com I've made it easy for you and plucked the family data as it appears in each census year from 1900 to 1930. I didn't do 1880 as he is still single, living with the Schroeder family. Please note the spelling of the surname in each census year. 1895 Iowa State Census: Hubert DOHMAN, age 38, born Prussia, page 962, residence: West Point, Lee Co. 1900 US Federal Census, West Point, Lee Co., IA, residence: Madison Street DOHMANN, Hubert 43 .........Anna 38, mother of 8/4 living .........Anna 17, dau. b. Jan 1883 .........Mary 11, dau. b. Apr 1889 .........Lizzie 9, dau b. Dec 1890 .........Rosa 3, dau. b. Oct 1896 1910 US Federal Census, West Point, Lee Co., IA DOHMAN Hubert J. 53 [someone corrected the name to read: Hubert JR Dohman] .......Anne A., 48 .......Lizzie B., 19 .......Rosa F., 12 .......Alvis K, 9 [his name was 'Alois'=German spelling; later 'Aloysius' Am. spelling; .......Vincent J., 6 1920 US Federal Census, West Point, Lee Co., IA Mabel Baker was the census taker on Jan. 7, 1920 and both she and the Folks at Ancestry.com as well as Genealogy.com did a real number on the Dohmann family in 1920. It took me hours of genealogical gymnastics to find them. Here is a textbook case as to what can happen to a rather simple name through misunderstanding, mis-reading, mis-transcribing, and mis-indexing. I knew from the 1900 census that Hubert owned his house on Madison, free and clear. So the thought that he might have moved to another state seemed unlikely (knowing how Germans like to hold on to their property once they own it). Here is how I located the family. I went back to the 1910 census and jotted down the names of some of his neighbors. When I located one of the neighbors in 1920, Hubert was not listed. So I moved one census page forward - no Hubert -, then one census page backward, and voila, I found him. Mabel the census taker had spelled his name correctly as 'Dohman' but the 'D' was hard to recognize / decipher. I still was curious as to how Hubert Dohman might be listed in the Index at Ancestry.com. So I used a little trick, instead of entering both the first name and last name of a person, I only entered 'Hubert' and had Ancestry.com tell me what person was living in West Point in 1920 whose first name was Hubert. Here he is: Hubert J. Dobinson, then someone added in parenthesis [Hubert D Doleman] and under place of birth, this unknown person added again in parenthesis [West Prussia / Westpreussen]. When I clicked on the name, up came Hubert DOHMAN. Next I went to Genealogy.com, searching for Hubert DOHMAN in 1920 in Lee Co., IA: Here is what came up: DAHMAN, Hubert J., Age:63, Birthplace:WEST, State:Iowa, County:LEE, Locale: WEST POINT. Now then, here is the family as it appears on the (actual) 1920 census: DOHMAN, Hubert J, age 63; born in Westphalia [someone misread 'West Prussia'] ........Anna M., 58 ........Rosa F., 22 ........Aoysius R, 19 [should be 'Aloysius'] ........Vincent J B, 16 (I suppose 'Lizzie' was married by then). 1930 Federal Census, West Point, Lee Co., IA DOHMANN, Hubert J., age 73 .........Anna A., age 69 .........Vincent J., 26 - Salesman in Grocery Store; 1930 Federal Census, Madison, Lee Co., IA DOHMAN, Aloysius, age 28, born abt. 1902 in Iowa, occupation: butcher in meat market; ........Marie, 23 ........Betty M., 2 years, 10 months; ........Aloysius, 1 The Aloysius Dohman family lives on 26th Street in Madison (or Avenue C/D) in the same house as: Frame, Theodore, 65 b. Iowa, Par: German; .......Elizabeth, 62, b. Iowa, Par: German; .......Jerome, 30, b. Iowa, Laborer in fork hoe company .......Bernard, 25, b. Iowa, barber. Is it possible that Theodore and Elizabeth Frame were Marie's parents? 1930 Federal Census, Bloomington, McLean Co., IL DOHMANN, Rose, age 33, b. abt. 1897 in Iowa; trained nurse, works in hospital. Rose DOHMANN has a room with a woman named Lena FEICKE, age 45, widow and son Arthur D. Feicke, age 11. Now I'm curious as to which of these men was your ancestor? I also did some checking on Siddessen: population in 2003: 500+ persons. There must have been a reason why a small village like Siddessen was mentioned in some of the records you have. I would say, that this is most likely Hubert's place of birth. The next larger city is Brakel, both Siddessen and Brakel belong to the District (county) of Höxter (county seat). You did not say so, but I assume that your ancestors were Catholic, yes? Unfortunately, the LDS has no records for Siddessen. There are some listed for Höxter, but that would have been too far for the family to attend. You may want to contact someone at the local level to find out where the church records are archived. Ursula JOHANN DOHMANN wrote: > I am looking right now for Siddessen,we know family ancestors have > lived there for many years, ..DOHMANN & DOMANN..I have been in this researching my family off and on for 53 years,my grandfather to the 28th generation was a Judge in the town of Hoxter,both my grd father & grt grdfather were in the Prussian Armies,1870's & 1848 I have the original Army papers,here at my home plus their photo's. > > I am trying to find the town where ..Hubert Johan Dohmann b.25 Jul > 1856-57,so far Siddessen is our best bet. > > Johann Dohmann/ USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >