Jane, I found this to be true too. I had been searching for my Great- Great Grandfather, MAXIMILIAN (MAX) HARTER. I finally found him in one of the censuses as MAY HARTER.The info all matched. The X really could have passed as a Y. By the way, could still use some help in finding a marriage date/place for Max Harter and Theresia(Theresa)Keelley.Keelley is the name listed on her death cert, which I have. It was pronounced KELLEY. But that seems to be an Irish name and she was from Germany.Her fathers name was Fred. Did not list mothers name, but both were from Germany. I beleive Theresia's last name may be KALLE. I have tried many different spellings and this is the only name that may be a match that I have found. Am attaching a death cert of Theresia Harter. If anyone can decipher the birthplace and can point me in the right direction to possbly get a birth cert, I would greatly appreciate it!!!!!!!!! Also, the ship she sailed on. Max was born on May29, 1835 in Onsbach, Achern, Baden, Germany. Came to the USA in 1857. He was a bootmaker/shoemaker. He lived in NYC as far as I can tell until 1869 when he came to live in Lena, IL. Where he and Theresia and most of there children lived til they died. Max and Theresia had 6 children. 3 born in NY. Charles OTTO Mar 17, 1859, Charles W 1862, Mary(my Great grandmother) Mar 14, 1864. 3 children born in Lena Il. Theresa S 1869, William A 1872, and Fredrick Aug 18, 1874. I have Max in the 1860 census living in NYC with a Gebhardt. No Theresia or family yet. Believe Otto was born out of wedlock since his birth is listed as 1859(I have his death cert.) I have a copy of Max's petition for naturalization. Iknow the family was in Lena, IL (Stephenson County in 1869, book in the Lena Library has him owning a shoe store at that time, also listed in every census here til his death in 1920. Theresia deied in 1912. In one census Theresia is listed as EUNICE. Any help in obtaing marraige date/place and birth certs of 3 oldest children would be most appreciated!!!!! Thanks!!! Ramona(Harter) Wehinger wehinger@centurytel.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Rasmussen" <janeluci@bresnan.net> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Names arn't a name if not spelled right. > >>> Also the folks over in Ancestry often goof up names. I found my >>> grandfather by going through the census for the community by going >>> through it page by page. > Jane >>> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 9/8/2006