My great grandfather, John Dorsey, and his family came to Texas from Boston in 1859. No one could find him in the 1860 Texas census. One day while at the Clayton Genealogical Library in Houston something told me to start at the top of the "D" surnames and look all the way down the list. There he was..John Dawsey. All the names and ages in his family were there, listed in the next county over from where he lived. The census wrote down what they heard, and John did not know how to read or write, so the name was changed, not misspelled. LOL Talk about excitemnet. I will never forget that day. Now, if I could only find him in Irland. His name was spelled Darcy back there, and the name John Darcy is as common as Bill Smith or John Jones here in the U.S.A. I love the challange of research. Joseph rbbtfarm <rbbtfarm@wavecable.com> wrote: Just to add to frustration, well, the humor in it...I know it well. I couldn't locate my Dad and his birth family on the 1930 IL census. Believe me, I knew exactly where they were then. For crying out loud, their name was DAVIS. How could that be messed up !?! Well, in desperation, I just put in my aunt, Dad's younger sister. Just her first name, in the census search.... immediately it popped up. Thankfully, hers was not a really common name and I knew the exact area to look. Turned out their surname had been mis-transcribed as "MAVIS". I have to give the person who made the error a break. The census taker made a "D" look like an "M". Even looking for it, I might have made the same mistake. So, sometimes creative research to the extreme is needed. No, I haven't found either my Pomm. or German. emigration records yet.I figured out a creative miracle search technique for them yet....... Tricia M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" To: Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Germans to America > THanks, Rita, you are correct. I just have to "keep on keeping on." I > realize that things back then were not as important as they are today. > Otherwise, people would remember when they and their children were born. > But, then again, if one does not read or write, they would not have been > expected to keep up with all of the records. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Joseph > > pedfamily@charter.net wrote: > Joseph: > > I'm not sure inaccuracies is the correct word. I think people have to > understand that just because a lot of lists are out there doesn't mean > that > they are all there. Lists have been lost, missed placed or not > transcribed. You just have to keep trying maybe some other year they will > appear or maybe you will be unlucky and the list you are looking for may > never appear. Maybe part of the list was so damaged it could not be read. > > It is also possible that they are not listed under the R's maybe the > transcriber thought it was a B or some other letter. > > We make the mistake of thinking that past was like the present and the > importance of records was the same then as now. > > Keep hunting like many of the rest of us. > > Rita > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > C > Dorsey > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:25 AM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Germans to America > > Well, I guess I have to add my voice to those who have stated the Germans > To America series has inaccuracies. > > I have been spending the summer in Canada to escape the heat and humidity > of the Texas Gulf coast. I was in the National Archives in Ottawa last > week and found they had the complete series and decided to find my German > great grandfather, August Raif, and his wife and two sons. They came to > the U.S. circa 1880 and are in the 1890 census in Texas. I thoroughly > checked Vol. 23, which starts in June 1869, through Vol 61, which ends in > October, 1891. Knowing their last name could have been spelling Raif, > Reif, Reiff, or anything starting with those letter, I checked all names > starting with "R." There was nothing there, so its back to the drawing > board for this group of my ancestors. This means they are back in the > "elusive" columns with my Polish and Irish ancestors. > > Joseph > Sealy, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Some times you might find the missing person at the very last of the census too. Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph C Dorsey To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Names aren't a name unlessspelled right, right? My great grandfather, John Dorsey, and his family came to Texas from Boston in 1859. No one could find him in the 1860 Texas census. One day while at the Clayton Genealogical Library in Houston something told me to start at the top of the "D" surnames and look all the way down the list. There he was..John Dawsey. All the names and ages in his family were there, listed in the next county over from where he lived. The census wrote down what they heard, and John did not know how to read or write, so the name was changed, not misspelled. LOL Talk about excitemnet. I will never forget that day. Now, if I could only find him in Irland. His name was spelled Darcy back there, and the name John Darcy is as common as Bill Smith or John Jones here in the U.S.A. I love the challange of research. Joseph rbbtfarm <rbbtfarm@wavecable.com> wrote: Just to add to frustration, well, the humor in it...I know it well. I couldn't locate my Dad and his birth family on the 1930 IL census. Believe me, I knew exactly where they were then. For crying out loud, their name was DAVIS. How could that be messed up !?! Well, in desperation, I just put in my aunt, Dad's younger sister. Just her first name, in the census search.... immediately it popped up. Thankfully, hers was not a really common name and I knew the exact area to look. Turned out their surname had been mis-transcribed as "MAVIS". I have to give the person who made the error a break. The census taker made a "D" look like an "M". Even looking for it, I might have made the same mistake. So, sometimes creative research to the extreme is needed. No, I haven't found either my Pomm. or German. emigration records yet.I figured out a creative miracle search technique for them yet....... Tricia M. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" To: Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Germans to America > THanks, Rita, you are correct. I just have to "keep on keeping on." I > realize that things back then were not as important as they are today. > Otherwise, people would remember when they and their children were born. > But, then again, if one does not read or write, they would not have been > expected to keep up with all of the records. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Joseph > > pedfamily@charter.net wrote: > Joseph: > > I'm not sure inaccuracies is the correct word. I think people have to > understand that just because a lot of lists are out there doesn't mean > that > they are all there. Lists have been lost, missed placed or not > transcribed. You just have to keep trying maybe some other year they will > appear or maybe you will be unlucky and the list you are looking for may > never appear. Maybe part of the list was so damaged it could not be read. > > It is also possible that they are not listed under the R's maybe the > transcriber thought it was a B or some other letter. > > We make the mistake of thinking that past was like the present and the > importance of records was the same then as now. > > Keep hunting like many of the rest of us. > > Rita > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joseph > C > Dorsey > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 9:25 AM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS] Germans to America > > Well, I guess I have to add my voice to those who have stated the Germans > To America series has inaccuracies. > > I have been spending the summer in Canada to escape the heat and humidity > of the Texas Gulf coast. I was in the National Archives in Ottawa last > week and found they had the complete series and decided to find my German > great grandfather, August Raif, and his wife and two sons. They came to > the U.S. circa 1880 and are in the 1890 census in Texas. I thoroughly > checked Vol. 23, which starts in June 1869, through Vol 61, which ends in > October, 1891. Knowing their last name could have been spelling Raif, > Reif, Reiff, or anything starting with those letter, I checked all names > starting with "R." There was nothing there, so its back to the drawing > board for this group of my ancestors. This means they are back in the > "elusive" columns with my Polish and Irish ancestors. > > Joseph > Sealy, TX > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message