The Hermann Selinger, age 17, who emmigrated from the port in Hamburg had a departure date of June 14, 1872 on the S.S. Hansa, according to the listing at saxonyroots. (indirect route). Did August Selinger have any siblings you are aware of? Here is the family group Ursula mentioned from Will County, IL - their arrival to the U.S. was 1865. - 1870 U.S. Census Illinois Hancock County Fountain Green Twp. John Selinger, Sr., b. approx. 1826, age 44, Farmer, Property Value: $5,000.00; Personal Valuables: $3,000.00; Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Wilhelmina Selinger, b. approx. 1829, age 41, Keeping House, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt John Selinger,Jr., b. approx. 1847, age 23, Farmer, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Kate Selinger, b. approx. 1848, age 22, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Minnie Selinger, b. approx. 1852, age 18, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Herman Selinger, b. approx. 1856, age 14, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Adam Selinger, b. approx. 1861, age 9, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Frank Selinger, b. approx. 1864, age 6, Illinois Elisabeth Selinger, b. approx. 1787, age 83, Retired, Hesse-Darmstadt / Hessen-Darmstadt Microfilm Roll: M593_226, Page 127 National Archives and Records Administration, Washington, D.C. & John Selinger, Sr. and Family Passenger Record: Ship Name: S.S.Bremen Master of Ship: J.C. Myers Port of Departure: Bremen, Germany Arrival Date: 12 Aug 1865 Port of Arrival: New York Place of Origin: Germany Microfilm: M237_255; List Number: 760 New York National Archives, Washington, D.C. Kathleen ____________________________________________________________________ --- "Ursula B. Adamson" wrote: Hello Tricia, The John Selinger (b ca 1825) family whose passenger ship list I have found first settled in 1870 in Fountain Green, Hancock Co., Illinois. One of their sons, Herman Selinger (butcher), appears on the 1900 census in Joliet Ward 3, Will Co., Illinois married to an "Eva", with children Walter and George. Are these Selingers your relations? I'm a bit confused about the children "Julius" and "Bertha Emilie" who do not appear on the 1870 census. You wrote that Bertha Emilie married in 1886. What was her husbands name? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com