The oldest child, John, would have been 10 at the 1850 census, so I think she was still the head of the household. and on that census it has John as born in KY. I can't find him in the 1860, and I was thinking he might be out fighting the Civil War. Thanks SO much for looking!!! Yesterday I ordered 2 death certs of John Horning and 1 of Margaret from MO, so maybe one of those is my people. crossing fingers. Can you think of a way to find John in KY in 1840? thanks for everything julie Susan Clark <susan.g.clark@comcast.net> wrote: Julie, I'd guess that Margaret lived with one of her children, especially a daughter, after her husband died. If you have any idea of the married names of any daughters, you can try searching for them in the census and see if Margaret shows up. Is it possible that their first son was born in Germany? I found a John Hornung born 1840 in Burundi (actually Bavaria if you look at the original census) in Kenton, KY. If this is a possibility, then this would probably be his death information: Name: John Horning Death Date: 21 June , 1928 Death Place: Kenton Age: 091 Volume: 31 Certificate: 15483 Maybe this death certificate would give the father's name. It's unusual that it didn't in Jacob's case. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie" To: Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Bavaria to USA in early 1800s - Hornung/Horning > Hello - my name is Julie and I need help :D > > I am trying to trace back my ancestors and I'm stuck. I know they came > from Bavaria (census) but other than that I'm SOL. This is what I have > > Margaret and ? Horning/Hornung had their first child John in 1840 in > Kentucky (have no clue what city) > They had their second, Jacob and third, Margaret in Missouri. > On the 1850 St. Louis, MO census it lists the children and the mother - > no father > then Jacob goes to Kentucky (1860 census) and pretty much stays in that > area KY/IN. > Jacob's death cert, (1889) doesn't have any info. > > I have no idea where Margaret ended up. > I think I might have found John on the 1880 census, and it stated > widower, but I don't know when he died or where (I'm thinking he might > have stayed in the St. Louis area) > There is a John Henry Horning probate 1849 on the MO website, but it > doesn't list a wife and I think it's the same from another list which has > him as being 29 in 1850, which would have him as 19 when John was born, so > possible, but only kind of probable - don't you think? > > Does anyone know, or can suggest where they would have landed? Was this > a normal route? Why the Kentucky to Missouri route? Both locations seem > to have a strong German population, was this normal back then? What > religion they might have been? (my dad's family was catholic, but back > then??) I have no clue if they married here or there? Came over together > or seperately? Any and all help would help. Thank you > > Julie > > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1ยข/min.