Just a thought -- the problem of not knowing who traveled together could be handled by assigning each passenger a number in the order that they appeared in the manifest. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "kajh" <kajh76@yahoo.com> To: <ubatrans@klondyke.net>; <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ships, Brigs and Barks - Newly added / Comment > Hi Ursula, > > We're very appreciative of good ideas and suggestions. > > > I know there has been some database function problems > which Wolf Z., the Admin., has been working on. This > is in reference to the Ships and Passenger List web > pages. > > 1) > Early this morning I tested the vessel , named > Constitution after your email. > > Test: > I could bring up Code 3 ID 16 Constitution, Bark ~ on > the German-language page but not the English-language > side. I was able to bring up (no code showing) ID > 6357 Constitution, Ship ~ on the English side. > > Therefore, yes, I too experienced some difficulties as > well. > > 2) > As for the passenger lists being available in the .pdf > Format, I've seen that done on other web pages. Wolf > would have to make the determination if that is viable > for him to do. > > You are correct that in many cases it is important to > see the ship manifest as a whole in order to see the > groups traveling together - whether they may have been > related or not. That could be true for the US Census > data too, just in reviewing neighborhoods of city or > farm/homestead dwellers. > > We will contact you off-list for further discussion of > your ideas Ursula. > > Please know we are most appreciative! > > Kathleen > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > --- "Ursula B. Adamson" wrote: > > Hello Kajh, > I think it's an excellent idea to provide access to > the actual passenger manifest, however, > when I tried uploading the - Constitution 1 - all > that came up was the header of the > manifest. The browser said it was 'done'. Could > these manifests not be transfered to > pdf-files? It might reduce the file size and allow > faster loading. Something you may want to > consider. > > I'm not convinced that it's a good idea to break > down the passenger list for the sake of > alphabetization. Here is why: there are times when > family units who immigrated under > different surnames [e.g. a married daughter]and/or > other families from the same village all > traveled together. When you separate the surnames > into alpha-categories, this family or > hometown association gets lost. Since the site has a > search engine, this alphabetization is > actually unneccessary. > > To illustrate my point: > I was searching for Margarethe WAHL who emigrated > from my hometown of Angersbach in the > 1850s. When I found the passenger ship that she came > on, I found 6 members of the GLITSCH > family, 1 Georg Eichenauer, 1 Marg. Renker, all from > the same village, whom I did'nt even > know had emigrated as well! Had I been content in > finding Margarethe WAHL by clicking on > "W", I would have never found the other immigrants. > This is also the reason why I think that > having access to the actual manifest is so > important. > > I wish I had time to help you all but I'm still > employed full-time and have 2 websites to > maintain. > I noticed that the "German Page" is not yet active, > can I help you in that department? > Do you have specific plans on how you want to handle > the translation of the icons etc. > > Ursula from Michigan > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Susan, thanks for your suggestion !! Well, actually, this is already done in our database and this is the way they are listed. Each passenger has an id number, but ..it just doesn't show up this way 'YET' on the screen. It takes only a minor 're-programming' and adding an extra link and Ursula and many of our subscribers should be 'happy'. I will let you know when this is built in.. Have a nice day, Wolf [Zscheile] ******************************************** Visit our homepage with ALL the latest NEWS http://www.saxonyroots.com ******************************************** > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Susan Clark > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:08 AM > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Ships, Brigs and Barks - Newly added / Comment > > > Just a thought -- the problem of not knowing who traveled > together could be > handled by assigning each passenger a number in the order > that they appeared > in the manifest. > > Susan > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.11/496 - Release Date: 10/24/2006