Wayne, You have certainly given me more than I expected. Yes, there seems to be a generation gap in the Johannes Biehn I have been researching. You may have given me a clue as to the Elizabeth B(iehn) buried beside Johannes at Lower Skippack Mennonite Cem. Her gravemarker is/was an old red stone inscribed Elizabeth "B" and transcribed by R.E. Hollenbach and Wilmer Reinford. It has been a complete mystery as to her relationship to Johannes Biehn. It also appears from all my research that Johannes Biehn was married previous to Marieke/Mary (Aret VanAcken) Van Fossen and may have had children from both marriages. Many Thanks, Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: <germany-passenger-lists-request@rootsweb.com> To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:03 AM Subject: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 94 > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frederick WEEPER, b. abt 1805 (Ed Mashmann) > 2. Re: EUDY/UHDE/OUDY/UTE... (B Kelly) > 3. Re: Johannes BIEHN (1652-1746/47) (Wayne J. Straight) > 4. Re: HERTZBERG (pedfamily@charter.net) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 09:56:55 -0400 > From: "Ed Mashmann" <emashma1@nycap.rr.com> > Subject: [G-P-L] Frederick WEEPER, b. abt 1805 > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <200610131356.k9DDuuBH025293@ms-smtp-01.nyroc.rr.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hallo - > > > > I am looking to find out more about > > > > Frederick WEEPER, b. 1805 > > Charlotte, b. 1804 > > Charlotte, b. 1827 > > Lomena, b. 1830 > > Harriet, b 1832 (or 1836) > > Ernest, b 1834 > > > > They emigrated from Prussia or Hanover prior to 1840 to Montgomery County, > New York. They were in the 1840 US Census. > > > > I suspect their German name was something other than Weeper. > > > > If you could help I would appreciate it. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Ed > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 08:30:14 -0700 (PDT) > From: B Kelly <kellys_kreations2000@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] EUDY/UHDE/OUDY/UTE... > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <20061013153014.71915.qmail@web50104.mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thanks!! > > This may actually be a Conrad from another branch, not > in my direct line. I do have a Conrad offshoot. > Listed b. 1827, which would make him 27 at departure, > but the one number or the other could be inaccurate. > > Thanks again!! > > --- AnnWicki@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > This is on the Germans to America. He is the only > > one for this date. > > > > Passenger's Name: Conr. Uhde > > Age: 20 > > Gender: Male > > Occupation: Farmer > > Last Residence: Germany > > Date of Arrival: Sep 7, 1854 > > Final Destination: United States > > Ship's Name: Norma > > Port of Embarkation: Bremen > > Port of Debarkation: New York > > > > > > In a message dated 10/12/2006 9:38:06 P.M. Eastern > > Daylight Time, > > kellys_kreations2000@yahoo.com writes: > > > > HI, > > MY NAME IS BRENDA EUDY (MAIDEN), AND I'M LOOKING FOR > > THREE, MAYBE FOUR, BROTHERS WHO CAME TO AMERICA > > FROM > > THE SAXONY AREA, POSSIBLY MADGEBURG, SOMETIME > > BETWEEN > > 1760 AND 1790, PROBABLY THE EARLIER THAN LATER. > > > > THERE ARE MANY OTHER PERMUTATIONS TO THE SURNAME > > BESIDES THE ONES I'VE LISTED, BUT I BELIEVE THEY > > WENT > > BY "UHDE" IN GERMANY. > > > > POSSIBLE FORENAMES ARE: > > > > CONRAD/KONRAD > > DANIEL BURNETTE/BARNHARDT > > GODFRYT/GOTTFRIED > > LORENZO/LAURENCE > > > > ALL I KNOW AT THIS POINT IS THAT THEY SETTLED > > MAINLY > > IN MECKLENBERG COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, ALTHOUGH > > THEY > > MAY HAVE ENTERED THROUGH A NORTHERN PORT, THEN > > MIGRATED. > > > > I'M AFRAID I DON'T KNOW YET THE NAME OF THEIR SHIP > > OR > > PORT OF DEPARTURE. > > > > I'D GREATLY APPRECIATE BEING POINTED IN THE RIGHT > > DIRECTION!! > > > > BRENDA > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with > > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:04:56 -0400 > From: "Wayne J. Straight" <woichi01@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Johannes BIEHN (1652-1746/47) > To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <452FAB18.9040702@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed > > Hi Judy; > > Seventy five years is a long time period to try to scan for--I always > suspect that I'm dealing with more than one generation in that > circumstance. However I did find some possibles (nothing that shouts out > that this is the right Johannes mind you) which may be worthy of further > research on your part. Use in the best of health. Cheers, Masugu > > Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776 > Joh. Conrad Biehn > Original data: Daniel Rupp. A Collection of Upwards of Thirty Thousand > names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and other Immigrants in > Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776. This book contains a variety of lists of > names of early Pennsylvania immigrants, prmarily those with German, > French, Swiss and Dutch decent . Many are from ship passenger lists > between 1727 and 1776. Some historical notes also accompany the lists. > Most of the names are male but some female names are included too. Other > extras include, some ages, acreage owned in certain townships, and a > list of name interpretations. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Biehn > Place: Pennsylvania > Family Members: Wife Margaretha Lux; Child Elisabetha; Child Magdalena; > Child Honoria; Child Sebastian > Source Publication Code: 523.1 > Primary Immigrant: Biehn, Johannes > Annotation: Date and port of arrival. Other genealogical and historical > information may also be provided. > Source Bibliography: BETTAC, ROBERT E. "Emigration Records: Records of > the Catholic Church in Riedseltz, Wiessembourg Canton, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, > France, 1830-1846." In Ohio Genealogical Society Report, vol. 37:2 > (Summer 1997), pp. 77-85. > Page: 83 > Source Citation: Place: Pennsylvania; Page Number: 83. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Biehn > Year: 1739 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 9041 > Primary Immigrant: Biehn, Johannes > Annotation: Contains 29,800 names, with annotations written by Krebs > (see no. 4203). Various references to the names in Strassburger will be > found in other listings, mostly where authors have attempted to line up > their information with that in Strassburger. This work > Source Bibliography: STRASSBURGER, RALPH BEAVER. Pennsylvania German > Pioneers: A Publication of the Original Lists of Arrivals in the Port of > Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808. Edited by William John Hinke. Norristown > [PA]: Pennsylvania German Society, 1934. 3 vols. Vols. 1 and 3 reprinted > by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1964. Repr. 1983. Vol. 1. > 1727-1775. 776p. > Page: 270 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1739; Page Number: 270 > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Pennsylvania > Source Publication Code: 1804 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Annotation: Taken from original manuscripts in the state archives. Names > given throughout pages 1-677. Foreigners arriving in Pennsylvania named > on pages 521-667. No. 3776, Kelker, supplements this. > Source Bibliography: EGLE, WILLIAM HENRY, editor Names of Foreigners Who > Took the Oath of Allegiance to the Province and State of Pennsylvania, > 1727-1775, with the Foreign Arrivals, 1786-1808. (Pennsylvania Archives, > ser. 2, vol. 17.) Harrisburg [PA]: E.K. Meyers, 1890. 787p. Reprinted by > Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1967. > Source Citation: Place: Pennsylvania; Year: 1732; Page Number: 37. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 6665 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Annotation: Lists Palatines arriving in Pennsylvania between 1718 and > 1742. Note that the first printing of vol. 3, 1840, has been used in no. > 2048, Filby and Meyer. Also in no. 717, Boyer, Ship Passenger Lists, > Pennsylvania and Delaware, pp. 48-86; and printed in pa > Source Bibliography: PENNSYLVANIA (COLONY). PROVINCIAL COUNCIL. Minutes > of the Provincial Council of Pennsylvania, from the Organization to the > Termination of the Proprietary Government. (Colonial Records of > Pennsylvania, vols. 3-4.) Harrisburg, PA: State of Pennsylvania, Theo > Fenn & Co. Vol. 3 (1840), containing the Proceedings of the Council from > May 31, 1717, to January 23, 1735-1736, pp. 299-301, 303-305, 307, > 346-348, 350-351, 390-392, 409-411, 414, 436-437, 440-442, 444, 457, > 460-461, 483 > Page: 457 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1732; Page Number: 457. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 717 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Source Bibliography: BOYER, CARL, 3RD, editor Ship Passenger Lists, > Pennsylvania and Delaware (1641-1825). Newhall, Calif.: the editor, > 1980. 289p. 4th pr. 1986. Reprint. Family Line Publications, > Westminster, MD, 1992. > Page: 63 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1732; Page Number: 63. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 7820 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Annotation: An index by Marvin V. Koger, Index to the Names of 30,000 > Immigrants...Supplementing the Rupp, Ship Load Volume, 1935, 232p. is > inferior to Wecken's index in the third edition (above). Page 449 > contains "Names of the First Palatines in North Carolina, as > Source Bibliography: RUPP, ISRAEL DANIEL. A Collection of Upwards of > Thirty Thousand Names of German, Swiss, Dutch, French and Other > Immigrants in Pennsylvania from 1727 to 1776, with a Statement of the > Names of Ships, Whence They Sailed, and the Date of Their Arrival at > Philadelphia, Chronologically Arranged, Together with the Necessary > Historical and Other Notes, also, an Appendix Containing Lists of More > Than One Thousand German and French Names in New York prior to 1712. > Leipzig [Germany]: > Page: 71 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1732; Page Number: 71. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 9041 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Annotation: Contains 29,800 names, with annotations written by Krebs > (see no. 4203). Various references to the names in Strassburger will be > found in other listings, mostly where authors have attempted to line up > their information with that in Strassburger. This work > Source Bibliography: STRASSBURGER, RALPH BEAVER. Pennsylvania German > Pioneers: A Publication of the Original Lists of Arrivals in the Port of > Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808. Edited by William John Hinke. Norristown > [PA]: Pennsylvania German Society, 1934. 3 vols. Vols. 1 and 3 reprinted > by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1964. Repr. 1983. Vol. 1. > 1727-1775. 776p. > Page: 57 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1732; Page Number: 57. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Behn > Year: 1732 > Place: Philadelphia > Source Publication Code: 9041 > Primary Immigrant: Behn, Johannes > Annotation: Contains 29,800 names, with annotations written by Krebs > (see no. 4203). Various references to the names in Strassburger will be > found in other listings, mostly where authors have attempted to line up > their information with that in Strassburger. This work > Source Bibliography: STRASSBURGER, RALPH BEAVER. Pennsylvania German > Pioneers: A Publication of the Original Lists of Arrivals in the Port of > Philadelphia from 1727 to 1808. Edited by William John Hinke. Norristown > [PA]: Pennsylvania German Society, 1934. 3 vols. Vols. 1 and 3 reprinted > by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1964. Repr. 1983. Vol. 1. > 1727-1775. 776p. > Page: 58 > Source Citation: Place: Philadelphia; Year: 1732; Page Number: 58. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Bien > Year: 1709 > Place: London, England > Source Publication Code: 3988.10 > Primary Immigrant: Bien, John > Annotation: Most are date and port of arrival; a few list date and place > of settlement. Exhaustive historical and genealogical information are > also provided. > Source Bibliography: KNITTLE, WALTER ALLEN. Early Eighteenth Century > Palatine Emigration. Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc. > 1997. 320p. > Source Citation: Place: London, England; Year: 1709; Page Number: 245. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Bien > Year: 1709-1710 > Place: Port uncertain > Source Publication Code: 926.8 > Primary Immigrant: Bien, John > Annotation: Date of emigration. Final port was uncertain although many > of those going to London may have continued on to the Mohawk Valley in > New York. Many names also in Walter Allen Knittle's Early Eighteenth > Century Palatine Emigration, portions of which were inde > Source Bibliography: BREITBARD, GAIL. "Heads of Households of the > 1709/10 Palatines Who Went from Germany thru the Port of Rotterdam to > London." In The Lost Palatine, no. 10 (1983), pp. 7-10. > Source Citation: Place: Port uncertain; Year: 1709-1710; Page Number: 7. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Bien > Year: 1709 > Place: England or America > Source Publication Code: 3983 > Primary Immigrant: Bien, John > Annotation: Many of the Palatines came to America shortly after 1709. > For the first of four lists of Palatines compiled up to June 11, 1709, > by the Rev. John Tribbeko and the Rev. George A. Ruperti, see item no. > 9214. A complete list of 12,000 names is in nos. 4772-4 > Source Bibliography: KNITTLE, WALTER ALLEN. "The Board of Trade List of > First Party of Palatines in London, May 3, 1709." In Early Eighteenth > Century Palatine Emigration. Philadelphia: Dorrance & Co., 1937, pp. > 244-247. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., 1965. Repr. 1982. > Page: 245 > Source Citation: Place: England or America; Year: 1709; Page Number: 245. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Beane > Year: 1666 > Place: Maryland > Source Publication Code: 2524.55 > Primary Immigrant: Beane, John > Annotation: Date and port of arrival. Extracted from Maryland Land > Office records of patents and warrants. Reference to original record or > transcript and microfilm number are also provided. Other historical and > genealogical information may also be provided. The first > Source Bibliography: GIBB, CARSON. A Supplement to The Early Settlers of > Maryland. Annapolis, MD: Maryland State Archives, 1997. 248p. > Page: 28 > Source Citation: Place: Maryland; Year: 1666; Page Number: 28. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Beane > Year: 1670-1671 > Place: Maryland > Source Publication Code: 8510 > Primary Immigrant: Beane, John > Annotation: Index from manuscript by Arthur Trader, Chief Clerk in the > Maryland Land Commission, 1917. And see nos. 4507-4511, Land Notes. > Source Bibliography: SKORDAS, GUST, editor. The Early Settlers of > Maryland: an Index to Names of Immigrants, Compiled from Records of Land > Patents, 1633-1680, in the Hall of Records, Annapolis, Maryland. > Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1968. 525p. Repr. 1986. > Page: 32 > Source Citation: Place: Maryland; Year: 1670-1671; Page Number: 32. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Beene > Year: 1674 > Place: Virginia > Source Publication Code: 6221 > Primary Immigrant: Beene, John > Annotation: Date and place where land was patented and record was > created listing those transported/imported. Only the names of those to > be transported were indexed. Abstracted from Patent books 6 through 8, > from the Land Office records located at the Virginia State > Source Bibliography: NUGENT, NELL MARION. Cavaliers and Pioneers: > Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants. Vol. 2: 1666-1695. > Indexed by Claudia B. Grundman. Richmond, VA: Virginia State Library, > 1977. 609p. > Page: 147 > Source Citation: Place: Virginia; Year: 1674; Page Number: 147. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Jon Beene > Year: 1681 > Place: Virginia > Source Publication Code: 6221 > Primary Immigrant: Beene, Jon > Annotation: Date and place where land was patented and record was > created listing those transported/imported. Only the names of those to > be transported were indexed. Abstracted from Patent books 6 through 8, > from the Land Office records located at the Virginia State > Source Bibliography: NUGENT, NELL MARION. Cavaliers and Pioneers: > Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants. Vol. 2: 1666-1695. > Indexed by Claudia B. Grundman. Richmond, VA: Virginia State Library, > 1977. 609p. > Page: 226 > Source Citation: Place: Virginia; Year: 1681; Page Number: 226. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Beene > Year: 1670-1697 > Place: South Carolina > Source Publication Code: 248.10 > Primary Immigrant: Beene, John > Annotation: Date and port of arrival. Occupation and key to sources, > which are listed on pp. xi-xii, are also provided; name of ship may also > be provided. > Source Bibliography: BALDWIN, AGNES LELAND. First Settlers of South > Carolina 1670-1700. Easley, SC: Southern Historical Press, 1985. 268p. > Page: 19 > Source Citation: Place: South Carolina; Year: 1670-1697; Page Number: 19. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: John Bean > Year: 1660 > Place: New Hampshire > Source Publication Code: 1640.10.1 > Primary Immigrant: Bean, John > Annotation: Date and port of arrival, date and place of settlement or > date and place of first mention in the New World. Date and place of > birth, date and place of death or burial, names of family members, > occupation, name of ship and other genealogical information ma > Source Bibliography: DOBSON, DAVID. Scots in New England, 1623-1873. > Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 2002. 236p. > Page: 14 > Source Citation: Place: New Hampshire; Year: 1660; Page Number: 14. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Bohm > Year: 1709 > Place: England or America > Source Publication Code: 3983 > Primary Immigrant: Bohm, Johannes > Annotation: Many of the Palatines came to America shortly after 1709. > For the first of four lists of Palatines compiled up to June 11, 1709, > by the Rev. John Tribbeko and the Rev. George A. Ruperti, see item no. > 9214. A complete list of 12,000 names is in nos. 4772-4 > Source Bibliography: KNITTLE, WALTER ALLEN. "The Board of Trade List of > First Party of Palatines in London, May 3, 1709." In Early Eighteenth > Century Palatine Emigration. Philadelphia: Dorrance & Co., 1937, pp. > 244-247. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., 1965. Repr. 1982. > Page: 245 > Source Citation: Place: England or America; Year: 1709; Page Number: 245. > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s > Name: Johannes Bohm > Year: 1709 > Place: London, England > Source Publication Code: 5013 > Primary Immigrant: Bohm, Johannes > Annotation: Four London lists of Palatines from Germany, 1709, copied > from a manuscript in the British Museum, London. See also nos. > 4772-4773, "Lists of Germans..."; no. 3990, Knittle; and no. 9214, > Tribekko and Ruperti. > Source Bibliography: MacWETHY, LOU D. "List of Palatines in 1709." In > The Book of Names. St. Johnsville [NY]: The Enterprise and News, 1933, > pp. 75-111. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1985. > Page: 80 > Source Citation: Place: London, England; Year: 1709; Page Number: 80. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 12:03:58 -0700 > From: <pedfamily@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] HERTZBERG > To: <germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <5c17f1$16jsl0e@mxip31a.cluster1.charter.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Germany was a major departure port for a great deal of Eastern Europe. So > it would certainly be possible. > > -----Original Message----- > From: germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:germany-passenger-lists-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > RAROSE10@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:47 PM > To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [G-P-L] HERTZBERG > > In the obit of my gfather, it stated that he had a sister Ida > WEINTRAUB-HERTZBERG!It seems that all of the information that I have of her > and husband is > wrong-so I am starting over. I found out that they lived in Latvia,altho > where, > I do not know.Would they immigrate from Germany? Can someone do a look up > for > me on them? I am sure that her husband was Joseph. > I thought for awhile that because all of her siblings settled in > Chicago-that > she would to but I guess I was wrong! For when I received her death > certificate the parents were wrong. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS list administrator, send an email to > GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS mailing list, send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS Digest, Vol 1, Issue 94 > ****************************************************** > >