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    1. Re: [G-P-L] Ship Ehrenfels - Feb. 28, 1883 sailing
    2. Ursula B. Adamson
    3. Hello Bette, The EMIGRATION records from Bremen have been destroyed and are no longer available for research! All that's available are the IMMIGRATION records aka 'reconstructed passenger lists records' maintained by NARA. When you check the holdings of the Bremen Auswanderer Datenbank you will see that all they have to offer are LINKS to Ancestry.com, Ellis Island, Die Maus or www.genealogienetz.de/vereine/maus, Family Search.org and 'Links to your roots', which are the Hamburg Passenger Lists. All of which you can either research yourself online or pay someone else to do it for you. When it says on the Bremen site that they will do research for you then those are the sites they will be searching for you. The Bremen/Bremerhaven historical museum is primarily designed for German visitors who are unfamiliar with searching the largely US-based/English databanks. As visitors arrive at the site they are assigned a computer and an assistant will show them [for example] how to access and search ancestry.com. That's all the research they can provide. You don't have to pay a German student to do that, you can do it yourself from your home computer. Ursula Bette McIntosh wrote: > Kathleen, > > I am interested in your reply to Chuck as regards an approach to take to > obtain passenger manifest information from the Historisches Museum > Bremerhaven / Deutsche Auswanderer-Datenbank. In my case, the passenger > records in question would be for the May 1872 time period from Bremen to > Baltimore, USA. > > Can you take this one step further & supply the name, location, e-mail > and/or postal address for a University that would be within a reasonable > distance of the above referenced Museum. I would like to try this approach, > using a student as a researcher/resource, but I am at a loss as to just how > to proceed with the logistics of such a search effort. > > Thank you, > Bette > > > >>Have you contacted the Emigration House at the Museum? >>Here is their contact information: >> >>Historisches Museum Bremerhaven >>Deutsche Auswanderer-Datenbank >>An der Geeste >>D-27570 Bremerhaven >>Phone +49 471 30816-0 >>Fax +49 471 5902700 >> >>info@deutsche-auswanderer-datenbank.de >>info@historisches-museum-bremerhaven.de >> >>Another idea would be to contact the University which >>is closest to their facility and see if a student >>would be available to go there in person for you - >>after the holidays. > > >>From: "kajh" <kajh76@yahoo.com> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > . >

    12/15/2006 09:52:50
    1. [G-P-L] Returning ship's records in Hamburg Archives
    2. Bette McIntosh
    3. Greetings List Members (especially Ursula & Kathleen), Thank you both for your replies to my query regarding the accessibility of Bremen EMIGRATION (passenger manifest) records. I understand that the Bremen/Bremenhaven passenger manifest records were destroyed, at some point, and are no longer extant. Now, if I may take the discussion to a slightly higher level, the background for my refined query is this.... In another instance, other than the one I recounted in my earlier e-mail query, another ancestral family of mine emigrated from Prussia in 1863, two years before Canada registered arriving emigrant ships & their passengers. In that year (1863) my family arrived in Quebec, Canada from Hamburg aboard the ship 'Ocean' (a vessel that was registered in Bremen and which historically sailed with a Bremen Captain) BUT for some unknown reason departed from Hamburg, not Bremen, in July. It is well understood by family members, although not documented by any actual paperwork, that the patriarch of this emigrant family died at sea and was buried there before the ship arrived in North America in September. In an effort to document my ancestors demise I have located a newspaper ('Montreal Gazette') reference to the Ocean's arrival in Quebec which mentions the ship's load as "general cargo." However, no mention is made of the 157 passengers that were also aboard this particular sailing of the 'Ocean'; this latter detail was substantiated from a review of a Mormon (LDS/FHL) film which lists my ancestral family as passengers. My additional query is this. Is there any way that I can hope to locate the ship's log & possible report made by the vessel's Captain when, I have been told, the vessel returned to port in Prussia; assuming of course that the 'Ocean' returned to Hamburg and NOT to Bremen. I hope this scenario makes sense and that someone can shine some light on the possibility. I have queried a ships list mail list with no success. Thank you for your consideration of this request, Bette > Hello Bette, > The EMIGRATION records from Bremen have been destroyed and are no longer > available for > research! > All that's available are the IMMIGRATION records aka 'reconstructed > passenger lists records' > maintained by NARA.

    12/16/2006 03:29:40