I sure hope someone can find when my grandma Anna Brumm and her parents and the rest of the children immigrated. My grandma said she was about 6 years old, she was born in May 5 1869, so I figure they immigrated about 1875-76. Her parents were Karl August Brumm b 1834 Mylau Zwickau, Saxony Karl died Aug. 1888 Forestville, Sanilac, MI. Wilhelmina Ida Fischer Brumm b 1837 Netzschkau, Zwickau Wilhelmina d Aug 1925 in Owosso, MI buried Forestville, Sanilac, MI. children Pauline b 1861 in Saxony Theresa b 1862 " Karl Clements b 1863 b Mylau Zwickau Emma b 1866 Crimmitschau Sachsen Anna b 1869 " d. 1852 in Montana Oliver Albert b 1879 " d. 1959 South Dakota He lived in South Dakota and died and was buried as Charlie Brown. Clara b 1873 d 1973 in Detroit MI George Karl b 1876 possibly in Michigan although I can't find a birth record on him. He d 1907 in Sanilac Co, MI. The whole family was listed on the 1880 census, I have checked all the other census and those that did give a immigration date, most gave a different year. I thought surely their mother would no what year she came over, but no year was shown. I have this immigration info on the father: !State of Michigan, County of Sanilac. I, Charles Brumm solemnly swear that it is bona fide my Intention to become a CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES, and to RENOUNCE FOREVER, all Allegiance and Fidelity to each and every Foreign Prince, Potentate, State or Soveringly whatsoever and particularly th Emperor of Germany of whom I have been a subject. Sworn to subscribed before me, at LEXINTON, this Seventh day of December A..D. 1876, Rudolph Pspst Clerk. Signed Charles Brum. Copy in Brumm book. Note: This is all the records there are on him, from Lansing, MI. I have this info on the son Declaration of Intention State of Michigan County of Sanilac I Charles Brumm, solemnly swear that it is bona-fide my intention to become a Citizen of the United States, and to RENOUNCE FOREVER, all Allegiance and Fidelity to each and every Foreign Emperor of Germany of whom I have been a subject. Sworn and subscribed before me, at Sanilac Centre, this 3rd day of May A.D. 1892. signed Harry ShIumun ? Clerk. Signed Charles Brumm Copy of this paper and the Naturalization Oath in Brumm book dated 7 Oct. 1896 signed Charles Brumm. !Naturalization Oath particularly V William the Emperor of Germany of whom I was a subject. Maria A Minear. No other information available according to the Lansing Office. Jan 2001 !1910 Federal Census shows Karl Immigrated in 1884. Ancestry.com Name: Charles C Brumm Age in 1910: 47 Estimated birth year: 1862 Home in 1910: CUSTER TWP, Sanilac, Michigan Race: White Gender: Male Series: T624 Roll: 674 Part: 2 Page: 78B Year: 1910 Maria Minear Montana Volunteer at Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness www.raogk.com

Hello Maria, I believe I did a check on your BRUMM family from Sanliac Co previously. I believe that the 1910 census info for Charles C [Clement] where it says he came in 1884 is correct. Obviously it is an error since he is already shown on the 1880 census at age 16. I believe that the family came on or about 1874 and that all of the children born after that date were born in Michigan and not in Saxony as shown on the 1880 census. The 1880 census would have given us more accurate information re immigration if the census taker had not put ditto marks behind each name. My reasoning is based on the fact that Charles BRUMM senior filed his first paper - the declaration of Intent - in 1876. He had to have been in the country for at least 2 years before he could file. The actually naturalization certificate should have been issued 3 years later. I'll keep on searching the passenger ships. I also have another question: was Wilhelmine Fischer-Brumm remarried after her husband's death to a man by the name of WISCHMANN ? I noticed that she is listed as Minnie WISHMAN on the 1920 census where she is residing with Charles Clement and his wife Minnie and their children. And another question, what was their church affiliation? Roman Catholic or Protestant? Have you been able to check the church records in the church they attended in Sanliac County? This is where you would find the birth's of the children born in Michigan and possibly the marriage records of the other children and death records of the Charles and Minnie senior. These church records provide often much more family information than that which you receive from the State. Ursula from Michigan Maria wrote: > I sure hope someone can find when my grandma Anna Brumm and her parents and the rest of the children immigrated. > > My grandma said she was about 6 years old, she was born in May 5 1869, so I figure they immigrated about 1875-76. > Her parents were Karl August Brumm b 1834 Mylau Zwickau, Saxony