Not all of the present day Lutheran churches sprang from this group They are mainly the Missouri Synods, They were the Buffalo Synod in New York. When it comes to the various synods of the Lutheran church, it becomes very complicated At one time there were over 60 Lutheran Synods in the United States. Blessings, Linda Noll [email protected] God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Psalm 46:1 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. ~ Ephesians 2:8-9 > [Original Message] > From: Ursula <[email protected]> > To: germany-passenger-lists <[email protected]> > Date: 1/1/2010 12:33:40 PM > Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Lutheran Connectons > > Marvin, Thank you again for providing us with a cornucopia of church related information! I'm so glad you've responded to our plea for clarification. Talk about people being confused. I had mentioned one time on this forum that when I grew up in Germany there were only two major religious confessions in Germany, Catholic and Protestant, with the Evangelical-Lutherans being counted among the Protestants. Some lady responded that her ancestors were Lutherans and that they would turn over in their grave if someone had called them Protestants.:) This thread started with the "Altlutheraner" and before closing the subject I have one more question. Am I to assume that the present day "Lutheran" churches sprang from the "Altlutheraner"? I'm asking because pastor Gerhard Doroh of St. Peter's Lutheran Church in Richmond, MI asked me once if I knew about the German Lutherans [I assume he referred to the Altlutheraner] who at one time had been persecuted, even killed, and driven out of the country. At the time I had not heard about the Altlutheran in Germany or in the US and I thought he was talking about medievil times. I then began looking into the history of the Altlutheraner when I found out that this occured between 1835 and 1854, actually not that long ago. Happy New Year to all, Ursula <<all previous posts have been removed>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marvin Huggins" <[email protected]> To: "Ursula" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 1, 2010 12:12:58 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Lutheran Connectons Ursula, The "Evangelical Calendar" about which you ask reflects another aspect of the confusion many have with identifying and locating the right congregation with records of their ancestors. The "Deutsche Evangelische�� Synode von Nordamerika" developed out of the "Kirchenverein des Westens," which was organized about the same time as the Missouri Synod and the other midwestern Lutheran church bodies like the�� Wisconsin and Iowa�� synods. And it also happened to be centered in Saint Louis, which compounds the confusion. The Evangelical Synod (for short) is an American reflection of the Prussian Union churches from Germany with a mixture of Lutheran and Reformed confessional allegiances. It was at odds with the Missouri Synod, which stood on a strict adherence to the Lutheran Confessions in the Book of Concord of 1580. For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message