Wow, I missed this first part. I am from Hennepin County and know most of the Lucht family that lived there in the 40's and 50's and 60's. They attended dist 46, a one room country school, and one of the Lucht families housed the teacher until about 1945. James, that school was on the southwest tip of Fish Lake. I also have been friends with some of the Kallk family from the Rogers or corcorn area. Chances are they attended the German Lutheran Church right on 101, as it was the oldest Lutheran Church around, I have school records, and baptism and confirmation records from the very early years. contact me off the list at [email protected] -------------------------------------------------- From: "Ursula" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 3:34 AM To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Lucht Immigration > > James, > > You must understand that immigrants as a whole were not all that concerned > when it came to accuracy of the information they provided to officials. > Many immigrants were suspicious of anyone wanting to obtain personal > information from them. On the other hand it continues to surprise me why > they would not only remember the year, but the also the month and exact > date that they arrived in the US as this must have been a major milestone > in their life. Yet, it happens more often than not. Regarding the > immigration dates given on censuses, there was often a misunderstanding > about the question being asked [language problem]or - in later years - > they confused the immigration year with the year of naturalization. Hence, > the different dates. Often the information was provided by one of the > children when the parents were not at home when the census taker called. > > In the case of your ancestor, Gottfried Lucht and his family appear for > the first time on the 1880 Federal Census in Corcoran, Hennepin Co., MN. > Here are the details: > > Lucht, Gottfried, 34, b. Prussia > .......Wilhelmine, 34 b. Prussia > .......Hulda, 7 b. Prussia > .......Herman, 3 b. MN > .......George, 2, b. MN > .......John, 3 months, b. MN > > On the 1885 State Census they are shown as follows: > > Lucht, Gottfried, 38 b. Prussia > .......Mena, 42, b. Prussia > .......Hulda, 13, b. MN [??] > .......Herman 8, b. MN > .......George 6, b. MN > .......William 5, b. MN > .......Henry, 6 months. > > On the 1900 Federal Census, Dayton Twp., Hennepin Co., they are shown as > follows: > > Lucht, Gottfried, 55 [b. Mar 1845] you wrote 1847! marr. 28 years, immigr. > 1874, PA=permanent resident* > .......Mena, 59 [b. Oct 1840] you wrote 1845!, mother of 6, 5 living; > .......Hulda, 26 [b. April 1874] Germany!! > .......Herman, 23 [b. Sep 1876] in MN > .......George, 19 [b. Sep 1880] in MN > .......Willie, 18 [b. Apr 1882] in MN > .......Henry, 15 [b. Oct 1884] in MN > > On the 1910 Federal census, Gottfried, now widowed and residing with one > of his sons, claims that he came in 1877. > We know that 1877 can't be true since son Herman was born Sep 1876 in > Minnesota. > It's hard to say whether Gottfried was naturalized at all. Generally, one > had to have lived in the US for at least five years before one could be > naturalized. Many immigrants filed their first papers as soon as they came > to the US but then didn't follow up five year later to apply for > naturalization. This meant they were considered permanent residents but > not citizens of the US. There is no law that requires an immigrant to > become naturalized, he can live and die in this country without ever > having become a citizen. > > If Hulda's DOB is correct, the family would have immigrated after April > 1874 but before September 1876 [Herman's DOB]. > > I checked the passenger lists but could not find the family on any list. > I hope this clears up some of the questions you had. > > Ursula > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "james" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, January 4, 2010 12:47:57 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [G-P-L] Lucht Immigration > > Hello lister group. I have a new years challenge. I am family historian > and genealogist for the Lucht, Kalk(e), Finke, Krone and other names in > our > family. I am trying to find out information on my great grand father > Gottfried Lucht (b. abt. Mar 1847) and his wife Wilhelmina (Meyer b. abt. > 1845 date depending on which census a person is looking at) Lucht. > > According to 1900 US Census (Dayton township, Hennepin county, Minnesota, > sheet 6, line 1 and 2) shows 1874 as immigration date and naturalized in > PA > (Pennsylvania ?) What I need to know is any verbage or ,jpg of > naturalization papers, immigration from (old family members said they came > from Luebgust, Pommerania, Prussia? Ship name? Probably travel to US > with > Charley Meyer family. > > Another bit of information is according to 1910 US Census (Corcoran > township, Hennepin county, Minnesota, sheet 4A, line 18) shows 1877 as > arrival date. Did he travel back to Germany (who knows) and give a new > date > or what? ship? Why did he say two arrival dates on two different census' > dates? > > > Any information found out would add to our family history. I'm at a road > block. > > Thanks for any help, > James Lucht > > > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: > http://www.germanyroots.com > > Please visit and participate in our new forum > http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >