The record of Christoph shows up not Johannes The Subject Johannes Euchner B/C - 6 Jan. 1838 - Village of Grafenberg (N E of Stuttgart) County of Nuetingen region of Reutlingen. Information documented. No use ever found of a middle name. Altho His Father Jacob Friedrich Euchner B/C 01 October 1811 & Grandfather Jacob Friedrich B/C 14 Jan 1774 and The first son of Johannes B/C 1838 was named John Friedrich B/C (possibly) 20 Dec 1867 Throughout the entire tree beginning abt.1529 as Eichner - then Euchner between 1634 and 1654 no siblings or children named Johannes have middle names before John F. 1867. The tree I speak of was received from Grafenberg family, the G G G grandson of Jacob Friedrich 1811 second sons line Jacob Friedrich B/C 1840 and brother of my Johannes B/C 1838. Starr Are the batch numbers available on line for those not in Castle Garden list ? You say the French passenger list were returned to La Harve ? As copies of the full list or the full list and the non French won't show up in New York ? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Your question only copied - - - - - In a message dated 2/3/2010 7:53:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: DO YOU KNOW HIS FIRST NAME , MIDDLE NAME , BIRTH DATE, AND TOWN ?. THE RECORDS MAY BE IN THE " BATCH NUMBERS " Karl Roussin