Thank you Myra - again I failed to include information of value for you angels that always search till you find a reference to pass on ! As G G G G grandfather's family tree from Germany enumerates Johannes's birth/Christening as 6 Jan., 1838, Father Jacob born 1811 and emigration from the Church books in Stuttgart archives as applied in 1854 many cross finds do relate to a cousin John B/C 14 April, 1840 father Johannes born 1802 and the brother of Jacob 1811. John 1840 emigration date has yet to be determined but Father John arrived seperate and before mother Barbara and daughter Maria Agnes all in the year 1856. John 1840 remained in New York through 1880 and Married Wilhelmina having three children. Where as John 1838 location from 1854 to 1869 has not been confirmed: Family note: Wife Mary (Stauffer) and sister Emma 1860 census Kalamazoo Mi. Family note: Daughter Mary born 1865 (apx) and son John F. born 12/1866 Tazewell County Il. Land deed: 215 acres to John Sr. 1869 Iroquois County, Illinois Death certificate 1920 Iroquois County Illinois Family notes and certificates (?) for 7 additional children Marriage certificate for Mary Euchner (sister of John 1838 and born 1850) to Justus Faupel 1870 Peoria Illinois and death notice 1877 Iroquois, Il. Again Thanks so much - Starr Kat In a message dated 5/1/2011 3:59:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, woodseyowllover@yahoo.com writes: I found these two below. Let me know if you want copies of either page. Myra Herron 1880 Federal Census about John Euchner Name: John Euchner Home in 1880: Brooklyn, Kings, New York Age: 41 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839 Birthplace: Wurttemberg Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head) Spouse's Name: Wilhelmina Euchner Father's birthplace: Wurtb. Mother's birthplace: Wurtb. Neighbors: View others on page Occupation: Tailor Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Cannot read/write: Blind: Deaf and dumb: Otherwise disabled: Idiotic or insane: View image Household Members: Name Age John Euchner 41 Wilhelmina Euchner 38 Lizzie Euchner 9 Jakob Euchner 4 Julia Euchner 2 1860 Federal Census about John Euchner Name: John Euchner Age in 1860: 20 Birth Year: abt 1840 Birthplace: Germany Home in 1860: Wales, Erie, New York Gender: Male Post Office: South Wales Value of real estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Nathan Curtiss 27 Mary Curtiss 30 Mary Jane Curtiss 5 Albert J Curtiss 1 John Euchner 58 Barbary Euchner 57 Agnes Euchner 17 John Euchner 20 MYRA HERRON Honk if you love Jesus. Text while driving if you want to meet him. --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> wrote: From: Chas7116@aol.com <Chas7116@aol.com> Subject: Re: [G-P-L] New York, Erie County Census 1855 + To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, May 1, 2011, 4:43 PM As a non-ancestry member I would appreciate a lookup in the now being processed work on the +1855 Census - Kings - erie - new york for Euchner , Johannes, born 6 Jan. 1838 Germany - specifically Grafenberg, farmer emigrated 1854 age 16 and the household he may be occupying - thank you Starr Kat For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message