Please pardon my interuption.  I have found families in Spring wells MI also & have thei r grave marker photos. 1 was Wolgast from Mecklenburg but in this cemetery I found their son-inlaw & families of August & Dora Piper. Also Carl Fischer family fromm Saschen. Spring Wells is not a safe place to be at any time these days. Phil Kuehn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ursula" <ubatrans@comcast.net> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 8:05:54 PM Subject: Re: [G-P-L] Agnes Tobenski Larson Havens (1879-1966) - from Berlin to        MI/WI? Hello Lars, The marriage certificate I have for Agnes and Bernhard was issued in Grand Haven, Michigan, located at the extreme west side of the state. You gave Glen Haven as the place of marriage. Is this from a different certificate? I find it strange that both gave Milwaukee as their residence. Why did they not marry in Milwaukee? You wrote you couldn't find Agnes on the 1900 census. I haven't found her either, however, since she stated in one of the censuses that she was first married at age 16, you would need to know the surname of her first husband. You wrote that prior to her marriage to Bernhard she had a son, Leo Martin. Is 'Martin' his surname or was this another first name? I found an Anthony Tabinskie in Springwell Township, Wayne Co., Michigan. I believe he stated that he immigrated in the 1870s. Although I have not located him or Agnes on a passenger ship list. I wouldn't worry too much about Agnes' change in her parents country of origin from Germany to Poland as she obviously updated her knowledge according to the political changes that had taken place over the years. As to why she named Berlin as her place of birth is anyones guess, perhaps she was born in a small town in Brandenburg that nobody in the US would know anyway. Ursula _________________________________________________________________ Memories are like threads of gold, they never tarnish or grow old ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lars E. Oyane" <lars.e.oyane@sdsl.no> To: germany-passenger-lists@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 7:37:24 AM Subject: [G-P-L] Agnes Tobenski Larson Havens (1879-1966) - from Berlin to        MI/WI? Dear Listers, I have received some rather conflicting and confusing information on the background of this lady: Agnes Tobenski, born about 1879, died at Brookfield in Waukesha Co., WI June 27, 1966. She married 1st at Glen Haven, MI on Aug. 15, 1903 to Bernhard S. Larsen of Norwegian background, and the marriage licence shows: For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message