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    1. Re: [G-P-L] Lorenz Echord Stoppelbean
    2. Ursula
    3. Hello Leroy, If your ancestor was indeed born in Sprendlingen, Germany it would have been under the name of Lorenz Eckhard STOPPELBEIN, any of the other 20 or so variant [mis]spellings of the name are derived from US sources. Evidently, there was more than one Lorenz Eckhard Stoppelbein, one born in 1800 [per your info] and one born in Charleston in 1826, who died 19 Nov 1883 at age 57/06/20. You may have misinterpreted the "date of admission" on the naturalization paper as the "date of arrival". I believe that 13 December 1826 is the date of his naturalization and admission as a US citizen. Ursula _________________________________________________________________ Memories are like threads of gold, they never tarnish or grow old ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEROY HARPER JR" <l192hal93@msn.com> To: GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 11:53:12 PM Subject: [G-P-L] Lorenz Echord Stoppelbean I have some conflicting information on Lorenz Stoppelbean that I am trying to resolve. According to his Naturalization papers he arrived in Charleston, South Carolina on 13 December 1823 at the age of 23. However, records at St John's Lutheran Church in Charleston showed that he married Mary Elizabeth Clarke in May 1923. I have not been able to find any record of the ship that he sailed to the Port of Charleston on. Would there be any to find out when and what ship he sailed on. He could have sailed either as a passenger or as crew. The ship probably sailed from France. According to local Charleston records, Lorenz was born on 18 April 1800 in the town of Sprendlingen, Hessen, Germany. He was living in Hesse Darmstadt Germany when he emigrated to Charleston. Any help would be appreciated. Leroy H. Harper For all the latest News, please visit our Homepage: http://www.germanyroots.com Please visit and participate in our new forum http://www.germanyroots.com/phpBB3/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GERMANY-PASSENGER-LISTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/11/2011 02:49:37
    1. Re: [G-P-L] Lorenz Echord Stoppelbean
    2. Baerbel Johnson
    3. Hallo Leroy, Since there are several localities named Sprendlingen in Hessen, I checked the HADIS database for Stoppelbein emigrants and found seven of them, all from Sprendlingen near Woellstein. See http://www.hadis.hessen.de/scripts/HADIS.DLL/home?SID=652C-4890E7C-BD237&PID=89A2 NACHWEIS Joost, Elisabet, geb. Stoppelbein, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 45 J.. - Ehepartner: Joost, Philipp, Ackerer, 46 J., 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Ehemann und 4 Kindern: Friedrich, Katharina, Maria Elisabet, Susanna Margarete. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Joost, Friedrich, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 20 J., Eltern: Joost, Philipp, Ackerer, 46 J. u. Joost, Elisabet geb. Stoppelbein, 45 J.. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Brüdern. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Joost, Katharina, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 7 Jahre, Eltern: Joost, Philipp, Ackerer, 46 J. u. Joost, Elisabet geb. Stoppelbein, 45 J.. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern: Susanna Margarete 2, Maria Elisabet 9, Friedrich 20. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Joost, Maria Elisabet, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 9 Jahre, Eltern: Joost, Philipp, Ackerer, 46 J. u. Joost, Elisabet geb. Stoppelbein, 45 J.. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern: Susanna Margarete 2, Katharina 7, Friedrich 20. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Joost, Philipp, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 46 Jahre, Ackerer. - Ehepartner: Elisabet geb. Stoppelbein, 45 Jahre, 4 Kind(er). - Bemerkungen: mit Ehefrau und 4 Kindern: Friedrich 20, Katharina 7, Elisabet 9, Susanna Margarete 2 Jahre. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Joost, Susanna Margarete, Herkunft: Sprendlingen/Wöllstein. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834-02 / Ziel: Amerika, USA. - Alter/geb.: 2 Jahre, Eltern: Joost, Philipp, Ackerer, 46 J. u. Joost, Elisabet geb. Stoppelbein, 45 J.. - Bemerkungen: mit Eltern und 3 Geschwistern: Maria Elisabet 9, Katharina 7, Friedrich 20. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 NACHWEIS Stoppelbein, Elisabet, Herkunft: Sprendlingen. - Auswanderungsdatum: 1834 / Ziel: unbekannt. - Bemerkungen: mit Philipp Jost. Quelle: Auswandererkartei Walter Möller 1834 The records for this town have been microfilmed and can be ordered to an LDS family history center in your area, where you can search the films for your ancestors. Both Lutheran and Catholic records have been filmed. Topic Details Topic Germany, Hessen, Sprendlingen (Kr. Alzey) - Church records Title search results Select a Family History Center to filter the results: [ Family History Library (4) ] Kirchenbuch, 1581-1897 Evangelische Kirche Sprendlingen (Kr. Alzey) Kirchenbuch, 1672-1798 Evangelische Kirche Sprendlingen (Kr. Alzey) Kirchenbuch, 1692-1934 Katholische Kirche Sprendlingen (Kr. Alzey) Kirchenbuchduplikat, 1819-1875 Evangelische Kirche Sprendlingen (Kr. Alzey) Hopefully this helps a little. Good luck! Baerbel <If your ancestor was indeed born in Sprendlingen, Germany it would have been under the name of Lorenz Eckhard STOPPELBEIN, any of the other 20 or so variant [mis]spellings of the name are derived from US sources. Evidently, there was more than one Lorenz Eckhard Stoppelbein, one born in 1800 [per your info] and one born in Charleston in 1826, who died 19 Nov 1883 at age 57/06/20.> NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

    07/11/2011 07:19:07